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Post 04/10/2023 10:51     Subject: How often do you think applicants lie about their race?

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Anonymous wrote:I read how it’s all self reported information and how colleges claim to have a large diverse population. Is this happening rarely or frequently?



If a man who "feels like a woman" can become a trans-woman and because gender is s social construct can thus force everyone to acknowledge that he is now a woman, I don't see why a white man who "feels he is black" can't become a trans-black since race is also a social construct and demand that he be considered black for affirmative action in college admission. Any person who opposes this is a racist bigot


You're better off becoming a "white woman" since they benefit from affirmative action the most.
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Post 04/10/2023 10:50     Subject: Re:How often do you think applicants lie about their race?

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Anonymous wrote:Johns Hopkins is only 19% white (under-represented); 19% Hispanic; 15% Black; 29% Asian…

Curious.


Most Latinos at hopkins are fake



I think whites have a case to be made like that of UNC. 19% is discrimination on skin color. Their make up isn’t anywhere close to representative of US demographics. When colleges get to the point that they are basically saying we don’t want you here (which is pretty much what every talk on many campus is), it’s discrimination. It will be interesting to see if any of this changes after the Supreme Court case is heard.


Is the goal for Hopkins to match US demographics or Maryland/Baltimore? I would argue the latter, in which case they're really behind on Black too.


I would hope it would be to not discriminate against anyone based on skin color/ethnicity.


Sure, and you would know that was happening when their demographics don't match...what population? Hopkins accepts a growing number of international applications (around 20%?) White people are around 15% of the world's population. So 19% for Hopkins seems fine then.


Hopkins International population is primarily from India, China and South Korea. Facts.


Yep. Not white. The 19% white stat is shocking but true. It’s very, very low considering the US population demographics.


Is there a law that says colleges should reflect the population mix of the country, state or city where they are located? If not, why is this an issue? Sounds like something a communist country would do..


It was affirmative action was designed to do, be representative. Discrimination by race or religion is anti-American. The numbers reflect certain groups are being discriminated against.


So, if the policy is removed and there are no African American men at Harvard, that would also mean that "The numbers reflect certain groups are being discriminated against.", right?

Please answer.



There are several all black NBA teams. Are they discriminating against whites, Hispanics and Asians and everyone else?


Name them.
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Post 04/10/2023 10:48     Subject: Re:How often do you think applicants lie about their race?

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Anonymous wrote:Johns Hopkins is only 19% white (under-represented); 19% Hispanic; 15% Black; 29% Asian…

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Most Latinos at hopkins are fake



I think whites have a case to be made like that of UNC. 19% is discrimination on skin color. Their make up isn’t anywhere close to representative of US demographics. When colleges get to the point that they are basically saying we don’t want you here (which is pretty much what every talk on many campus is), it’s discrimination. It will be interesting to see if any of this changes after the Supreme Court case is heard.


Is the goal for Hopkins to match US demographics or Maryland/Baltimore? I would argue the latter, in which case they're really behind on Black too.


I would hope it would be to not discriminate against anyone based on skin color/ethnicity.


Sure, and you would know that was happening when their demographics don't match...what population? Hopkins accepts a growing number of international applications (around 20%?) White people are around 15% of the world's population. So 19% for Hopkins seems fine then.


Hopkins International population is primarily from India, China and South Korea. Facts.


Yep. Not white. The 19% white stat is shocking but true. It’s very, very low considering the US population demographics.


Is there a law that says colleges should reflect the population mix of the country, state or city where they are located? If not, why is this an issue? Sounds like something a communist country would do..


It was affirmative action was designed to do, be representative. Discrimination by race or religion is anti-American. The numbers reflect certain groups are being discriminated against.


According to history and even current trends, it's VERY American.
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Post 04/10/2023 10:43     Subject: Re:How often do you think applicants lie about their race?

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https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/education/577722-more-than-a-third-of-white-students-lie-about-their/


My guess is that they mostly put Hispanic.

I thought Hispanic % was said to be pretty high at some of the colleges.



Yeah, a friend of my son has an Hispanic mother ... whose family has been in the United States since the late 1800s. The father is a WASP who attended Columbia and HBS. Meanwhile the boy is checking the Hispanic box and applying to Harvard and Yale while my slightly-better-stats kid is focused on, like, Villanova.

It's so frustrating to see people abuse the system. I wish there was a way for colleges to distinguish (and who knows; maybe they do.)


Simple

Latinos should not get any affirmative action

It should be for ados blacks only.

Latinos scam this so hard.

I ask for test scores and transcripts when I hire and I definitely am more willing to bend for black kids (it’s pretty easy also to tell ados from 1st and 2nd gen African/Dominicans when you see their names, ask where they went to high school, make small talk about hobbies, music, sports during the interview process etc)


You sound like a nativist bigot.

Latinos have actually struggled for centuries here, you know the US stole their lands in many states? And their language has been forbidden for decades in states like CA?

If blacks and Native Americans get AA, Latinos deserve it too.


Nah you gotta be enslaved for centuries to get AA but if you want to put on the chains so you can deserve it too, go right ahead.



Tell us again how Obama or Harris' ancestors were enslaved by centuries? It's more like their families were doing the enslaving.


Uhhhh half Harris' family is Jamaican. They were also enslaved.
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Post 03/05/2023 23:33     Subject: How often do you think applicants lie about their race?

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Anonymous wrote:Hispanic seems easiest to fake. Who the heck knows if your grandmother was from Mexico or Cuba or Argentina?

I know someone whose kids are “Hispanic” because one grandparent was from Central America.


So? That’s legit.
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Post 03/05/2023 23:12     Subject: How often do you think applicants lie about their race?

Anonymous wrote:Hispanic seems easiest to fake. Who the heck knows if your grandmother was from Mexico or Cuba or Argentina?

I know someone whose kids are “Hispanic” because one grandparent was from Central America.
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Post 03/05/2023 17:21     Subject: How often do you think applicants lie about their race?

Hispanic seems easiest to fake. Who the heck knows if your grandmother was from Mexico or Cuba or Argentina?