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Either an entitled waitress or one that's on the spectrum with rigid rules.

I would have responded in the same way, OP.

OP initiated the sequence of events with her cheapness and entitled attitude.

Scroll up a bit. The restaurant owner disagrees with you. A tip on takeout is appreciated, but not expected, and certainly not demanded.

I don't have to scroll up to know how to treat workers with kindness.

Well the staff at this restaurant didn’t treat OP with kindness, so maybe you still have some life lessons to learn.

No, the worker didn't respond with kindness. Most of us don't get that kind of response from restaurant employees because we treat them with kindness and respect and show our appreciation by tipping them for their service. You have an opportunity to do better in the coming new year!😊👍

Uhhh, no. No one is entitled to tips. And if you demand a tip, you are rude and should be fired. People like you are encouraging this ridiculous, entitled behavior. Congrats.

No one is entitled to a tip. And you can continue to act like a cheap jerk.

Tipping has nothing to do with being kind or being a jerk. You are paying for the quality of service. In this instance there was no service.

I grumble about this every time I order curbside because the minimum suggested gratuity amount is 18%, which I think should involve more than running the food out to my car. OTOH, I normally fork out the 18% and just hope the order will be accurate. In any event, I know the food will be cold by the time I get home, and I cut back on the number of times I order as a result.

+1. I don't tip for takeout. We are in Austin, and the prices have risen astronomically, we do mostly take outs only due to the same reason. The madness has to stop. The labor market is tight right now, if the waiters are not making enough, they should consider alternate careers. Look at how many teachers quit in the pandemic. A few teachers in my kids school went to higher paying corporate learning & development jobs

During the pandemic, we tipped 20% since eating there wasn’t an option. Now, I would do a few bucks in most cases. Would be great for restaurants to pay a living wage so we don’t have to tip. Just charge more for food and be done with it.

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Anonymous wrote:If there were no tipping then businesses must raise prices to cover the lack of tips as they meet the minimum wage requirements. So you will be paying either way.

No, the people who tip will be paying either way, not everyone tips.

Then the angry tippers on here should be the ones who start to refuse to tip in order to usher in a newer, fairer model

"And it's getting worse now and becoming like extra tax on top of your purchase as it gets embedded into the electronic card payment terminals where you are asked to give PERCENTAGE of the cost of what you are buying"

This is correct, and for this reason, I'm back to paying in cash at these places. You tell me the total, I'll hand you the bills and you can make change. There's no pretty screen to flip around with the innocuous "this is just going to ask you a few questions."

I don't tip on takeout if I have to pay up front when I order. I also don't tip before I've receive my food at a sit-down restuarant.

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Anonymous wrote:I look at it as making someone’s day just a little bit better.

We were on a road trip once and other than a hole in the wall deli, the only place to eat was Pizza Hut. Our server was unbelievably kind and great at her job. DH went to the bathroom and overheard her talking to someone in the kitchen about some bad life stuff with kid. DH left her $500 tip and thank you for the great service note. We left before she came back to the table. As w were pulling out, we could see her burst into tears through the window. Never know how much $5, $50 or $500 can change someone’s life. If I can get $50 in carry out on Friday night $55-60 isn’t a stretch.

Great story and I agree. It amazes me how self absorbed a lot of these anti-tippers are, as if a few bucks they keep in their wallet or bank account is so much more important than contributing to the barely living wage many servers and counter workers get. Thankfully I know for a fact that aside from these DCUM anti threads most people tip appropriately and are not so selfish and cheap.

It is not my responsibility to personally subsidize wages. I am not a charity.

If you go to tipping places then it is your responsibility. Just stay home.

tipping. is. not. required.
it. is. not. the. law.

True. It. is. an. opportunity. to. show. how. miserly. you. are.

I’m not sure what’s going on with all the periods, but I’m not going to tip the Panera people just for ringing up my coffee or the sandwich shop on top of their wages. Tipping creep is real and not wanting to tip on items and services that were generally non-tip before does not make anybody miserly.

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All I have done is go back to tipping as I did in Feb 2020.

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Anonymous wrote:I never heard that you are supposed to tip on takeout until Covid, and there was all that hoopla about restaurants risking their lives for us (never mind other essential workers like me didn’t make extra for going in). I figured it was temporary but this myth has persisted past covid.

Yes! This is where it started for me.

As I wasn't actually able to sit down to eat, I was happy to tip in the way I would have had that been an option.

Now, it apprently has become the cultural expectation instead of going back to the way it was.

Nope, my sister worked in a restaurant as a hostess 20 years ago and she told me that you are supposed to tip a bit on takeout.

I worked as a hostess in two spots 20 - 23 years ago and although someone did tip occasionally on take out it was considered a “wow! I got a tip!” thing not an every order occurrence. And those handling take out were employees making the full hourly wage not the waitresses.

Anonymous wrote:If there were no tipping then businesses must raise prices to cover the lack of tips as they meet the minimum wage requirements. So you will be paying either way.

No, the people who tip will be paying either way, not everyone tips.

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Anonymous wrote:OP you used a gift card = you got a free meal!

Totally CHEAP OF YOU not to give $5 (or whatever) of your own money.

Yes, I tip on carryout at restaurants that we frequent. If I don't feel like spending money, we eat at home. If you eat or drink out, you can help out others that are serving you in some manner.

So typical of DCUM...where did you go for Christmas break? Private schools, SLACS, enrichment this and that, test prepping, blah blah blah.

WHAT, you want me to leave a few bucks for carryout, are you nuts???

New poster: what a load of crap. People who don’t tip for things that aren’t true service OR historically things people tip for, doesn’t mean they are cheap when it comes to giving to others. I don’t like leave a tip for picking up carry out (very rare) but I’m extremely generous. It’s not black or white. Similarly, you’re not giving just because you do this. This is a very new thing - having an iPad screen that seems a tip for something like this or having a line item of tip when you online order carry out. This isn’t how it’s always been. A cab driver, waitress, manicurist or hair cutter? Sure. Many others are now new, and they aren’t paid a few bucks an hour.

Tell yourself this enough to believe it. You are cheap (of course other than when it comes to splurging on yourself I am guessing).

Ok, how much percentage wise do you give when you are presented with the electronic screen where minimum is 15% to pick up some bakery items or a sandwich? Do you also tip cooks? If packing a sandwich or a pastry into a box and pouring you some coffee is "work" that's "extra", then what should those who actually bake and cook these goodies get as a "tip"? Don't you think cooks and those cutting up veggies for your salads/sandwiches are working hard and are underpaid? They most definitely are underpaid, but we include their labor into the cost of goods sold, while handing it to you and packing it should be covered by a tip?

Anonymous wrote:Watch The Bear on Hulu and you’ll see how takeout orders are actually a decent amount of work. Just tip a few bucks.

Then restaurants should just charge a bit more for take out instead of leaving it to some "ethical conundrum" everyone must go through for a simple transaction. It's a simple exchange of goods for money, and cost of goods should include the "service" of someone packaging it and giving it to us. Just like cost of everything you buy has labor cost embedded in it. Are you saying factory workers, delivery people, drivers, cleaners don't do decent amount of work, and we should be figuring out how much to tip for everything we consume?

And it's getting worse now and becoming like extra tax on top of your purchase as it gets embedded into the electronic card payment terminals where you are asked to give PERCENTAGE of the cost of what you are buying not simply dropping a buck or some coins into a tip jar. You have to go through more complicated process to enter a custom amount and you feel guilty to enter 1 dollar, which is what you would usually drop into a tip jar (or some coins). With electronic tipping you don't even know where the tip goes and who collects it and if it is fairly distributed. Some restaurants still charge pandemic recovery surcharge too even though things are back to normal for a while now and they are packed. It's extra taxation IMHO. Just be honest about it.

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Anonymous wrote:OP you used a gift card = you got a free meal!

Totally CHEAP OF YOU not to give $5 (or whatever) of your own money.

Yes, I tip on carryout at restaurants that we frequent. If I don't feel like spending money, we eat at home. If you eat or drink out, you can help out others that are serving you in some manner.

So typical of DCUM...where did you go for Christmas break? Private schools, SLACS, enrichment this and that, test prepping, blah blah blah.

WHAT, you want me to leave a few bucks for carryout, are you nuts???

New poster: what a load of crap. People who don’t tip for things that aren’t true service OR historically things people tip for, doesn’t mean they are cheap when it comes to giving to others. I don’t like leave a tip for picking up carry out (very rare) but I’m extremely generous. It’s not black or white. Similarly, you’re not giving just because you do this. This is a very new thing - having an iPad screen that seems a tip for something like this or having a line item of tip when you online order carry out. This isn’t how it’s always been. A cab driver, waitress, manicurist or hair cutter? Sure. Many others are now new, and they aren’t paid a few bucks an hour.

Tell yourself this enough to believe it. You are cheap (of course other than when it comes to splurging on yourself I am guessing).

Why not respond in the merits rather than name calling and making assumptions?

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Anonymous wrote:OP you used a gift card = you got a free meal!

Totally CHEAP OF YOU not to give $5 (or whatever) of your own money.

Yes, I tip on carryout at restaurants that we frequent. If I don't feel like spending money, we eat at home. If you eat or drink out, you can help out others that are serving you in some manner.

So typical of DCUM...where did you go for Christmas break? Private schools, SLACS, enrichment this and that, test prepping, blah blah blah.

WHAT, you want me to leave a few bucks for carryout, are you nuts???

New poster: what a load of crap. People who don’t tip for things that aren’t true service OR historically things people tip for, doesn’t mean they are cheap when it comes to giving to others. I don’t like leave a tip for picking up carry out (very rare) but I’m extremely generous. It’s not black or white. Similarly, you’re not giving just because you do this. This is a very new thing - having an iPad screen that seems a tip for something like this or having a line item of tip when you online order carry out. This isn’t how it’s always been. A cab driver, waitress, manicurist or hair cutter? Sure. Many others are now new, and they aren’t paid a few bucks an hour.

Tell yourself this enough to believe it. You are cheap (of course other than when it comes to splurging on yourself I am guessing).

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Anonymous wrote:OP you used a gift card = you got a free meal!

Totally CHEAP OF YOU not to give $5 (or whatever) of your own money.

Yes, I tip on carryout at restaurants that we frequent. If I don't feel like spending money, we eat at home. If you eat or drink out, you can help out others that are serving you in some manner.

So typical of DCUM...where did you go for Christmas break? Private schools, SLACS, enrichment this and that, test prepping, blah blah blah.

WHAT, you want me to leave a few bucks for carryout, are you nuts???

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You sound like the disgruntled service worker I suspect you are. A gift card is same as cash. It's none of your concern who actually PAID for it. Do you tip McDonald's workers? I suspect you don't. Shameful of you.

Struck a nerve I guess pp.
Recognize yourself as a cheap-o?

And no, I have never been a service worker, much less a disgruntled one. I have always been a good tipper though.

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Anonymous wrote:OP you used a gift card = you got a free meal!

Totally CHEAP OF YOU not to give $5 (or whatever) of your own money.

Yes, I tip on carryout at restaurants that we frequent. If I don't feel like spending money, we eat at home. If you eat or drink out, you can help out others that are serving you in some manner.

So typical of DCUM...where did you go for Christmas break? Private schools, SLACS, enrichment this and that, test prepping, blah blah blah.

WHAT, you want me to leave a few bucks for carryout, are you nuts???

New poster: what a load of crap. People who don’t tip for things that aren’t true service OR historically things people tip for, doesn’t mean they are cheap when it comes to giving to others. I don’t like leave a tip for picking up carry out (very rare) but I’m extremely generous. It’s not black or white. Similarly, you’re not giving just because you do this. This is a very new thing - having an iPad screen that seems a tip for something like this or having a line item of tip when you online order carry out. This isn’t how it’s always been. A cab driver, waitress, manicurist or hair cutter? Sure. Many others are now new, and they aren’t paid a few bucks an hour.

+1. These are the same pushy, Karen-esque, drama queens who used to bleat around here about password sharing a few years ago. It's now the norm because it's common sense. They are just sheep that do something (because a celebrity said so) that makes them feel (because a celebrity said it should) and now are shocked and upset that others are not as stupid as they are!

Touched a nerve that you aren't generous, so you call other people who disagree with you stupid.

Touched a nerve that you don’t like being called out for your stupidity

I'm not the one complaining, dear.

I should have identified myself as an NP. I wasn’t complaining, DEAR. Simply calling you stupid.

The initiator of this entire thread is the complainer, DEAR. Best regards to YOU as well.