Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 22:00     Subject: Re:Biden strikes out with King Manchin

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Anonymous wrote:I'm very surprised by the reaction from Dems tonight. I remember lots of you praising Liz Cheney and John McCain for taking principled stands against their own party, so I was sure the same standard would apply here for Manchin. /s


What’s the principled stand here? Not enough money for fossil fuels? How brave.


Not spending TRILLIONS off the backs of tax payers.


…..while existing social welfare programs will go bankrupt in the next 20 years.


So why is it a good idea to encourage even more people to come to this country and receive medical care, insurance, housing, food, pre-K through high school education, special education and remedial support, college education, etc at little or no expense to them?
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 21:54     Subject: Re:Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm very surprised by the reaction from Dems tonight. I remember lots of you praising Liz Cheney and John McCain for taking principled stands against their own party, so I was sure the same standard would apply here for Manchin. /s


What’s the principled stand here? Not enough money for fossil fuels? How brave.


Not spending TRILLIONS off the backs of tax payers.


BBB was paid for. The increase in defense funding was not but Manchin had no problem voting yes there.


Your idea of paid for and not paid for is vastly different from mine.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 21:53     Subject: Re:Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm very surprised by the reaction from Dems tonight. I remember lots of you praising Liz Cheney and John McCain for taking principled stands against their own party, so I was sure the same standard would apply here for Manchin. /s


What’s the principled stand here? Not enough money for fossil fuels? How brave.


Not spending TRILLIONS off the backs of tax payers.


…..while existing social welfare programs will go bankrupt in the next 20 years.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 21:47     Subject: Re:Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm very surprised by the reaction from Dems tonight. I remember lots of you praising Liz Cheney and John McCain for taking principled stands against their own party, so I was sure the same standard would apply here for Manchin. /s


What’s the principled stand here? Not enough money for fossil fuels? How brave.


Not spending TRILLIONS off the backs of tax payers.


BBB was paid for. The increase in defense funding was not but Manchin had no problem voting yes there.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 21:44     Subject: Re:Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm very surprised by the reaction from Dems tonight. I remember lots of you praising Liz Cheney and John McCain for taking principled stands against their own party, so I was sure the same standard would apply here for Manchin. /s


What’s the principled stand here? Not enough money for fossil fuels? How brave.


Not spending TRILLIONS off the backs of tax payers.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 21:43     Subject: Re:Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:I'm very surprised by the reaction from Dems tonight. I remember lots of you praising Liz Cheney and John McCain for taking principled stands against their own party, so I was sure the same standard would apply here for Manchin. /s


+1 😃
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 21:43     Subject: Re:Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:I'm very surprised by the reaction from Dems tonight. I remember lots of you praising Liz Cheney and John McCain for taking principled stands against their own party, so I was sure the same standard would apply here for Manchin. /s


What’s the principled stand here? Not enough money for fossil fuels? How brave.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 21:42     Subject: Biden strikes out with King Manchin

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good for Manchin….finally an adult in the room.


Hilarious to pretend Manchin is doing this out of principle. He is on the take.


Please share the name of a senator who's not "on the take."


They all are but there’s a degree to which they vote for corporate interests over the interests of people in their state. WV is ranked low on income, health care, and economy. Really it’s the red states that should be most supportive of BBB because they’ll benefit the most in dollars. Manchin should think more about the people instead of coal companies.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 21:36     Subject: Re:Biden strikes out with King Manchin

I'm very surprised by the reaction from Dems tonight. I remember lots of you praising Liz Cheney and John McCain for taking principled stands against their own party, so I was sure the same standard would apply here for Manchin. /s
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 21:36     Subject: Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good for Manchin….finally an adult in the room.


Hilarious to pretend Manchin is doing this out of principle. He is on the take.


He was never a yes. He dragged this out for months so he can pretend the party killed the deal. If he can’t explain a bill, he should ask another senator or rep who is competent to meet with WV constituents.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 21:35     Subject: Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good for Manchin….finally an adult in the room.


Hilarious to pretend Manchin is doing this out of principle. He is on the take.


Please share the name of a senator who's not "on the take."
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 20:22     Subject: Biden strikes out with King Manchin

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Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no way a legislator from a teeny worthless sh!+ hole state like WV should have the power to derail a bill popular with those from states that make America the world leader it is. Primary him, if for nothing else than to punish him and those who put him in office.
That said this is also on Joe and his incredible lack of leadership. He was elected because he’s not trump and well he’s not trump but that’s about it. The Party is rudderless.
Disgusting.


Wow. How elitist of you.
And, it wasn't one person who was against this bill. It was 51. Or, maybe more.


As is typical, the system only works when it works their way. Any other outcome is unacceptable.

Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 20:21     Subject: Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:Good for Manchin….finally an adult in the room.


Hilarious to pretend Manchin is doing this out of principle. He is on the take.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 20:19     Subject: Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no way a legislator from a teeny worthless sh!+ hole state like WV should have the power to derail a bill popular with those from states that make America the world leader it is. Primary him, if for nothing else than to punish him and those who put him in office.
That said this is also on Joe and his incredible lack of leadership. He was elected because he’s not trump and well he’s not trump but that’s about it. The Party is rudderless.
Disgusting.


He's the only 'Democrat' in West Virginia who can win national elected office. He loses tomorrow, its a Republican senator. He goes into a coma tomorrow, its a Republican senator. Why? Because West Virginia is a Republican state led by a Republican governor.

Him and his supporters in WV are useless anyway so it’ll be a wash.


IDK if you're aware or not but the minute Manchin steps aside or switches party, the control of the United States Senate switches over to the GOP. That means no more Biden appointees, nominees, ambassadors, or judges.

ESPECIALLY judges. Biden has flipped the 2nd and 4th circuit courts in a single year. He's put more judges on the bench since the Reagan presidency. This is incredibly important work.



Biden's appointees are already being held up. God I hate US politics where winning popular majorities in elections means absolutely nothing. The only way to get anything done in American politics is to cheat.
Anonymous
Post 12/19/2021 20:12     Subject: Biden strikes out with King Manchin

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no way a legislator from a teeny worthless sh!+ hole state like WV should have the power to derail a bill popular with those from states that make America the world leader it is. Primary him, if for nothing else than to punish him and those who put him in office.
That said this is also on Joe and his incredible lack of leadership. He was elected because he’s not trump and well he’s not trump but that’s about it. The Party is rudderless.
Disgusting.


He's the only 'Democrat' in West Virginia who can win national elected office. He loses tomorrow, its a Republican senator. He goes into a coma tomorrow, its a Republican senator. Why? Because West Virginia is a Republican state led by a Republican governor.

Him and his supporters in WV are useless anyway so it’ll be a wash.


IDK if you're aware or not but the minute Manchin steps aside or switches party, the control of the United States Senate switches over to the GOP. That means no more Biden appointees, nominees, ambassadors, or judges.

ESPECIALLY judges. Biden has flipped the 2nd and 4th circuit courts in a single year. He's put more judges on the bench since the Reagan presidency. This is incredibly important work.