Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For me, more than that….
She left at 7:30…. What time does the kid wake up? What zoo is that that opens so early?
Specially in February. Why would you go on an outdoor activity early am in cold February?
I remember that day was extremely warm. I was sitting out on my patio drinking coffee (which I never would have done in freezing temperatures)
Also, if they were going to the zoo in DC, that would take at least 1 hour to 90 minutes to get to from Herndon.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For me, more than that….
She left at 7:30…. What time does the kid wake up? What zoo is that that opens so early?
Specially in February. Why would you go on an outdoor activity early am in cold February?
Anonymous wrote:I am the person who walked their dog and had contact with CB and BB, but mostly CB.
My guess is that CB would never have had a man over her house, and no chance she would be into this “fetish with knives” bullshit. Seriously…
We know that when she was found, she was naked. But there is no information JR was naked, so I assume he was clothed and was caught off guard. In my opinion, BB killed poor Christine right before Joe Ryan was about to get there. He probably messaged him sth like “hey, I will leave the door open and you can just come in” pretending to be CB. Then he came in and was shot.
There is a chance he planned all that on his own, and Juliana just happened to go back home to get the lunch and messed things up. (Which probably explains the whole thing about calling the first time, hanging up and then calling 911 again after 10 minutes). It makes me think Brendan was trying to convince her the whole home invasion was real, asked her to get the gun to shot the invader, and then telling her they had to be careful to not accidentally incriminate themselves? I don’t know. And of course there is even more chance she is involved in the sordid plan. It doesn’t matter, she is a psychopath just for having an affair with him anyway.
CB was a great person, a hard worker, and a perfect mom. She was so generous and kind. Her parents are amazing people and I feel pain in my heart just thinking about this whole tragedy. Every time I heard about BB, saw him, or talked to him I thought: how are these people a couple? He is the complete opposite, although I couldn’t imagine he was capable of doing what he did.
I hope he rots and little V gets a chance to have a normal life with her grandparents.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Gift link to WaPo article: https://wapo.st/3BaG6h7
Other than the info about JM’s lawyers alleging police misconduct I didn’t think there was too much new info in the article.
It’s sad to think about the daughter riding in the cop car to the station![]()
And the daughter seeing her mother taken away in an ambulance then Juliana’s panic attack outside the home.
Anonymous wrote:Initially the police stated that JR was known to all parties. Did they ever clarify that statement? It will all eventually come to light but the order of events are difficult to put together. Several have mentioned that maybe JM was unaware, but to that I reference the forgotten lunches. Coincidences are less likely to be coincidences on the day of a murder. She went back for a reason.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Gift link to WaPo article: https://wapo.st/3BaG6h7
Other than the info about JM’s lawyers alleging police misconduct I didn’t think there was too much new info in the article.
Anonymous wrote:Gift link to WaPo article: https://wapo.st/3BaG6h7
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For me, more than that….
She left at 7:30…. What time does the kid wake up? What zoo is that that opens so early?
Specially in February. Why would you go on an outdoor activity early am in cold February?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please read to the end. It's not my intent to victim blame in any way. Perhaps CB was a participant in some way of arranging the meeting with JR. Certainly BB set up her online profile and maybe encouraged her to play around because, in his mind, it would legitimize/excuse what he was doing with AP. Why do I suggest this? I can't understand any other situation in which JR would have stayed in the house for more than a few minutes. Had he walked in on CB without her prior knowledge I can't imagine she wouldn't have resisted and raised an alarm, called the police, nor that JR would think that such a response was part of the anticipated sex scenario. Second, had he walked in on an already incapacitated if not mortally wounded CB, he would have gotten the hell out of there in seconds. I want to reiterate that if CB was at all a participant in this it was under the pressure of an abusive, cheating, conniving husband. I'd love to hear other explanations for the time JR spent in the house if CB wasn't expecting him. And, PLEASE, keep it civil. We are all speculating on the possibilities, none of us know more than the authorities, etc.
I agree that if Joe has found Christine stabbed, he would have called 911 immediately.
Agree. This is the one part of the sequence of events that I can't work out. I'm thinking there is forensic evidence that has not been presented yet
This is my guess:
JR walked in, spent a few minutes communicating with BB (pretending to be CB) to okay whatever role play setup JR thought was happening. He came upstairs and saw CB bloodied and unconscious, turned to flee and was immediately shot.
With the amount of ring cameras in the neighborhood, I don’t think they would lie testifying the whole going to McDonalds and going back thing.
They know there are cameras and GPS and the police would check.
Didn’t they already say there’s video evidence of him staying in the McDonald’s parking lot for an extended period of time? Meaning more time than it takes to eat a sausage egg McMuffin?
Thirty minutes! yeah that is "sitting in wait" which relates to the aggravated murder charge. It's one of the listed criteria for that charge according to Google. It was clearly highly planned.
Even if you eat two sausage and egg McMuffins and two hash browns it takes you only fifteen or twenty minutes. I'm sure gearing up to do a stabbing and a shooting no one is that hungry with all that adrenaline pumping through your sociopathic adrenaline pumping through your sociopathic body limbic system.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please read to the end. It's not my intent to victim blame in any way. Perhaps CB was a participant in some way of arranging the meeting with JR. Certainly BB set up her online profile and maybe encouraged her to play around because, in his mind, it would legitimize/excuse what he was doing with AP. Why do I suggest this? I can't understand any other situation in which JR would have stayed in the house for more than a few minutes. Had he walked in on CB without her prior knowledge I can't imagine she wouldn't have resisted and raised an alarm, called the police, nor that JR would think that such a response was part of the anticipated sex scenario. Second, had he walked in on an already incapacitated if not mortally wounded CB, he would have gotten the hell out of there in seconds. I want to reiterate that if CB was at all a participant in this it was under the pressure of an abusive, cheating, conniving husband. I'd love to hear other explanations for the time JR spent in the house if CB wasn't expecting him. And, PLEASE, keep it civil. We are all speculating on the possibilities, none of us know more than the authorities, etc.
I agree that if Joe has found Christine stabbed, he would have called 911 immediately.
Agree. This is the one part of the sequence of events that I can't work out. I'm thinking there is forensic evidence that has not been presented yet
This is my guess:
JR walked in, spent a few minutes communicating with BB (pretending to be CB) to okay whatever role play setup JR thought was happening. He came upstairs and saw CB bloodied and unconscious, turned to flee and was immediately shot.
With the amount of ring cameras in the neighborhood, I don’t think they would lie testifying the whole going to McDonalds and going back thing.
They know there are cameras and GPS and the police would check.
Didn’t they already say there’s video evidence of him staying in the McDonald’s parking lot for an extended period of time? Meaning more time than it takes to eat a sausage egg McMuffin?
Thirty minutes! yeah that is "sitting in wait" which relates to the aggravated murder charge. It's one of the listed criteria for that charge according to Google. It was clearly highly planned.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For me, more than that….
She left at 7:30…. What time does the kid wake up? What zoo is that that opens so early?
Specially in February. Why would you go on an outdoor activity early am in cold February?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Please read to the end. It's not my intent to victim blame in any way. Perhaps CB was a participant in some way of arranging the meeting with JR. Certainly BB set up her online profile and maybe encouraged her to play around because, in his mind, it would legitimize/excuse what he was doing with AP. Why do I suggest this? I can't understand any other situation in which JR would have stayed in the house for more than a few minutes. Had he walked in on CB without her prior knowledge I can't imagine she wouldn't have resisted and raised an alarm, called the police, nor that JR would think that such a response was part of the anticipated sex scenario. Second, had he walked in on an already incapacitated if not mortally wounded CB, he would have gotten the hell out of there in seconds. I want to reiterate that if CB was at all a participant in this it was under the pressure of an abusive, cheating, conniving husband. I'd love to hear other explanations for the time JR spent in the house if CB wasn't expecting him. And, PLEASE, keep it civil. We are all speculating on the possibilities, none of us know more than the authorities, etc.
I agree that if Joe has found Christine stabbed, he would have called 911 immediately.
Agree. This is the one part of the sequence of events that I can't work out. I'm thinking there is forensic evidence that has not been presented yet
This is my guess:
JR walked in, spent a few minutes communicating with BB (pretending to be CB) to okay whatever role play setup JR thought was happening. He came upstairs and saw CB bloodied and unconscious, turned to flee and was immediately shot.
With the amount of ring cameras in the neighborhood, I don’t think they would lie testifying the whole going to McDonalds and going back thing.
They know there are cameras and GPS and the police would check.
Didn’t they already say there’s video evidence of him staying in the McDonald’s parking lot for an extended period of time? Meaning more time than it takes to eat a sausage egg McMuffin?