Anonymous wrote:So much for the cease fire.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let me explain. The U.S. is a superpower. As such, the U.S. secures its political, economic, and military supremacy worldwide by any means. It can cloud actions in democracy, but if you believe that, I can't help you. You need to go to school and learn more.

In addition, without the U.S. presence in Qatar, Qatar would not exist; Saudi Arabia sees it as its own territory. The UAE and Iran might be in open conflict over disputed islands.
Saudi Arabia fights with Qatar for media and political influence. The UAE has an economic rivalry, etc.
Qatar backs Islamist groups as it is tiny and needs to be seen as a powerful player to keep existing as a country.
Saudi Arabia and the UAE see the Muslim Brotherhood and other groups as a major source of instability in the region and are fully against Qatar's actions. They are angry at Qatar.

While the U.S. actions right now have destabilized the markets, this is nothing compared to what would happen if the U.S. withdrew completely from GCC countries.

Iran becomes a major regional power.
What the U.S. really controls is:
maritime security
deterrence against disruptions
crisis response capacity
That influence is enormous.

Certainly, right now, we have done damage for nothing. Apart from preventing some oil access to China for a while, which is huge in geopolitical games.

I am not disagreeing that the U.S. actions have caused mayhem, bcs right now our government is incompetent, and you can't fire all your five-star generals and not think things through before you act.

Leaving GCC completely would be insane for the U.S. as a superpower. I, personally, prefer to be a citizen of a superpower, rather than of some small country that has no influence anywhere.
Only a fool would say, "leave GCC." Or a foreign actor. Iran has them everywhere.

I too prefer to be a citizen of a superpower, but it is also apparent our empire is contracting. We have been trying to pivot out of the middle east for years. Looks like this attempt was a fiasco. I still think we will keep trying.

I wish there was a way to cut a deal with Iran, keep GCC oil flowing yet tolled, and pull out troops. However, Iran is probably more interested in religious crazy than the money involved.

What we saw from Iran is logical tit for tat military response not religious crazy.

What we didn't see, and a lot of it you do not know about, is the constant infiltration of agents and cells of the IRGC in the ME and in the U.S.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let me explain. The U.S. is a superpower. As such, the U.S. secures its political, economic, and military supremacy worldwide by any means. It can cloud actions in democracy, but if you believe that, I can't help you. You need to go to school and learn more.

In addition, without the U.S. presence in Qatar, Qatar would not exist; Saudi Arabia sees it as its own territory. The UAE and Iran might be in open conflict over disputed islands.
Saudi Arabia fights with Qatar for media and political influence. The UAE has an economic rivalry, etc.
Qatar backs Islamist groups as it is tiny and needs to be seen as a powerful player to keep existing as a country.
Saudi Arabia and the UAE see the Muslim Brotherhood and other groups as a major source of instability in the region and are fully against Qatar's actions. They are angry at Qatar.

While the U.S. actions right now have destabilized the markets, this is nothing compared to what would happen if the U.S. withdrew completely from GCC countries.

Iran becomes a major regional power.
What the U.S. really controls is:
maritime security
deterrence against disruptions
crisis response capacity
That influence is enormous.

Certainly, right now, we have done damage for nothing. Apart from preventing some oil access to China for a while, which is huge in geopolitical games.

I am not disagreeing that the U.S. actions have caused mayhem, bcs right now our government is incompetent, and you can't fire all your five-star generals and not think things through before you act.

Leaving GCC completely would be insane for the U.S. as a superpower. I, personally, prefer to be a citizen of a superpower, rather than of some small country that has no influence anywhere.
Only a fool would say, "leave GCC." Or a foreign actor. Iran has them everywhere.

I too prefer to be a citizen of a superpower, but it is also apparent our empire is contracting. We have been trying to pivot out of the middle east for years. Looks like this attempt was a fiasco. I still think we will keep trying.

I wish there was a way to cut a deal with Iran, keep GCC oil flowing yet tolled, and pull out troops. However, Iran is probably more interested in religious crazy than the money involved.

What we saw from Iran is logical tit for tat military response not religious crazy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let me explain. The U.S. is a superpower. As such, the U.S. secures its political, economic, and military supremacy worldwide by any means. It can cloud actions in democracy, but if you believe that, I can't help you. You need to go to school and learn more.

In addition, without the U.S. presence in Qatar, Qatar would not exist; Saudi Arabia sees it as its own territory. The UAE and Iran might be in open conflict over disputed islands.
Saudi Arabia fights with Qatar for media and political influence. The UAE has an economic rivalry, etc.
Qatar backs Islamist groups as it is tiny and needs to be seen as a powerful player to keep existing as a country.
Saudi Arabia and the UAE see the Muslim Brotherhood and other groups as a major source of instability in the region and are fully against Qatar's actions. They are angry at Qatar.

While the U.S. actions right now have destabilized the markets, this is nothing compared to what would happen if the U.S. withdrew completely from GCC countries.

Iran becomes a major regional power.
What the U.S. really controls is:
maritime security
deterrence against disruptions
crisis response capacity
That influence is enormous.

Certainly, right now, we have done damage for nothing. Apart from preventing some oil access to China for a while, which is huge in geopolitical games.

I am not disagreeing that the U.S. actions have caused mayhem, bcs right now our government is incompetent, and you can't fire all your five-star generals and not think things through before you act.

Leaving GCC completely would be insane for the U.S. as a superpower. I, personally, prefer to be a citizen of a superpower, rather than of some small country that has no influence anywhere.
Only a fool would say, "leave GCC." Or a foreign actor. Iran has them everywhere.

I too prefer to be a citizen of a superpower, but it is also apparent our empire is contracting. We have been trying to pivot out of the middle east for years. Looks like this attempt was a fiasco. I still think we will keep trying.

I wish there was a way to cut a deal with Iran, keep GCC oil flowing yet tolled, and pull out troops. However, Iran is probably more interested in religious crazy than the money involved.

Anonymous wrote:Oh, the US also lied about how many casualties our poor troops actually received. Iran should be and probably will be the end of our Middle East adventures.

Israel is on their own after Trump

Anonymous wrote:Let me explain. The U.S. is a superpower. As such, the U.S. secures its political, economic, and military supremacy worldwide by any means. It can cloud actions in democracy, but if you believe that, I can't help you. You need to go to school and learn more.

In addition, without the U.S. presence in Qatar, Qatar would not exist; Saudi Arabia sees it as its own territory. The UAE and Iran might be in open conflict over disputed islands.
Saudi Arabia fights with Qatar for media and political influence. The UAE has an economic rivalry, etc.
Qatar backs Islamist groups as it is tiny and needs to be seen as a powerful player to keep existing as a country.
Saudi Arabia and the UAE see the Muslim Brotherhood and other groups as a major source of instability in the region and are fully against Qatar's actions. They are angry at Qatar.

While the U.S. actions right now have destabilized the markets, this is nothing compared to what would happen if the U.S. withdrew completely from GCC countries.

Iran becomes a major regional power.
What the U.S. really controls is:
maritime security
deterrence against disruptions
crisis response capacity
That influence is enormous.

Certainly, right now, we have done damage for nothing. Apart from preventing some oil access to China for a while, which is huge in geopolitical games.

I am not disagreeing that the U.S. actions have caused mayhem, bcs right now our government is incompetent, and you can't fire all your five-star generals and not think things through before you act.

Leaving GCC completely would be insane for the U.S. as a superpower. I, personally, prefer to be a citizen of a superpower, rather than of some small country that has no influence anywhere.
Only a fool would say, "leave GCC." Or a foreign actor. Iran has them everywhere.

Anonymous wrote:Let me explain. The U.S. is a superpower. As such, the U.S. secures its political, economic, and military supremacy worldwide by any means. It can cloud actions in democracy, but if you believe that, I can't help you. You need to go to school and learn more.

In addition, without the U.S. presence in Qatar, Qatar would not exist; Saudi Arabia sees it as its own territory. The UAE and Iran might be in open conflict over disputed islands.
Saudi Arabia fights with Qatar for media and political influence. The UAE has an economic rivalry, etc.
Qatar backs Islamist groups as it is tiny and needs to be seen as a powerful player to keep existing as a country.
Saudi Arabia and the UAE see the Muslim Brotherhood and other groups as a major source of instability in the region and are fully against Qatar's actions. They are angry at Qatar.

While the U.S. actions right now have destabilized the markets, this is nothing compared to what would happen if the U.S. withdrew completely from GCC countries.

Iran becomes a major regional power.
What the U.S. really controls is:
maritime security
deterrence against disruptions
crisis response capacity
That influence is enormous.

Certainly, right now, we have done damage for nothing. Apart from preventing some oil access to China for a while, which is huge in geopolitical games.

I am not disagreeing that the U.S. actions have caused mayhem, bcs right now our government is incompetent, and you can't fire all your five-star generals and not think things through before you act.

Leaving GCC completely would be insane for the U.S. as a superpower. I, personally, prefer to be a citizen of a superpower, rather than of some small country that has no influence anywhere.
Only a fool would say, "leave GCC." Or a foreign actor. Iran has them everywhere.