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Anonymous wrote:This is going to SCOTUS. Trump personally asked all his appointees to protect him, in whatever twisted innuendo he came up with. Trump will cause a constitutional crisis so long as he is alive.

I am not so sure SCOTUS will bend to Trump on this. The justices are secure from retaliation from Trump, the people they really listen to is FedSoc. However convenient it may have been in the past for FedSoc to align with Trump, they may have enough concerns about how the precedent Trump would have set here could be used against their interests later than they don’t pressure the justices to go Trump’s way on this.

I agree. Both the 11th Circuit and especially the GOP SCOTUS justices have different incentives than Cannon (and let's be clear, this is all about the personal interests of these Trump judges- they don't care one bit about the law). Cannon is running a pure careerist move. For her, if TFG or another MAGA is elected again, she will be rewarded for her loyalty with a promotion. If not, then she loses nothing and keeps her lifetime appointment. That incentive is much lower for a circuit judge and basically non-existent for a justice. Those folks are looking at the longer term interests of the conservative movement, and undermining the national security state by taking a wrecking ball to decades-long precedent about classified information and executive privilege is not good for that.

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Anonymous wrote:This is going to SCOTUS. Trump personally asked all his appointees to protect him, in whatever twisted innuendo he came up with. Trump will cause a constitutional crisis so long as he is alive.

There will be crises forever from now on.

Trump exposed the weaknesses in law enforcement, and then he exposed the weaknesses in the us constitution.

I agree. I have written this before; US has been operating on honor systems for many highly placed government position for all this while. One unethical person who has no shame and is charismatic enough to create a cult has broken the system.

We've definitely been operating on the honor system, but I'd argue that we've had unethical, shameless, and (somewhat) charismatic people before who have tried to break the system. Look no further than Nixon. Only this time around, Democrats didn't have the numbers in Congress and Republicans put party over country and were too cowardly to hold Trump accountable.

Anonymous wrote:This is going to SCOTUS. Trump personally asked all his appointees to protect him, in whatever twisted innuendo he came up with. Trump will cause a constitutional crisis so long as he is alive.

I am not so sure SCOTUS will bend to Trump on this. The justices are secure from retaliation from Trump, the people they really listen to is FedSoc. However convenient it may have been in the past for FedSoc to align with Trump, they may have enough concerns about how the precedent Trump would have set here could be used against their interests later than they don’t pressure the justices to go Trump’s way on this.

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Anonymous wrote:This is going to SCOTUS. Trump personally asked all his appointees to protect him, in whatever twisted innuendo he came up with. Trump will cause a constitutional crisis so long as he is alive.

There will be crises forever from now on.

Trump exposed the weaknesses in law enforcement, and then he exposed the weaknesses in the us constitution.

I agree. I have written this before; US has been operating on honor systems for many highly placed government position for all this while. One unethical person who has no shame and is charismatic enough to create a cult has broken the system.

And, these systems need to be fixed before someone smarter does it again.

I see no path to fix these systems when one party benefits from the broken system. The country will dismantle like USSR before there would be any agreement on fixing the system.

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Anonymous wrote:This is going to SCOTUS. Trump personally asked all his appointees to protect him, in whatever twisted innuendo he came up with. Trump will cause a constitutional crisis so long as he is alive.

There will be crises forever from now on.

Trump exposed the weaknesses in law enforcement, and then he exposed the weaknesses in the us constitution.

I agree. I have written this before; US has been operating on honor systems for many highly placed government position for all this while. One unethical person who has no shame and is charismatic enough to create a cult has broken the system.

And, these systems need to be fixed before someone smarter does it again.

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Anonymous wrote:This is going to SCOTUS. Trump personally asked all his appointees to protect him, in whatever twisted innuendo he came up with. Trump will cause a constitutional crisis so long as he is alive.

There will be crises forever from now on.

Trump exposed the weaknesses in law enforcement, and then he exposed the weaknesses in the us constitution.

I agree. I have written this before; US has been operating on honor systems for many highly placed government position for all this while. One unethical person who has no shame and is charismatic enough to create a cult has broken the system.

Anonymous wrote:This is going to SCOTUS. Trump personally asked all his appointees to protect him, in whatever twisted innuendo he came up with. Trump will cause a constitutional crisis so long as he is alive.

There will be crises forever from now on.

Trump exposed the weaknesses in law enforcement, and then he exposed the weaknesses in the us constitution.

This is going to SCOTUS. Trump personally asked all his appointees to protect him, in whatever twisted innuendo he came up with. Trump will cause a constitutional crisis so long as he is alive.

Anonymous wrote:I've got a question about this Connon judge. Isn't there a court to appeal to and if so, why isn't DOJ appealing?

I"m also not sure the federalist society is to blame. Many of them are calling these rulings out as shite.

DOJ is appealing to the 11th Circuit. I believe they filed the notice last night right after her ruling issued.

I've got a question about this Connon judge. Isn't there a court to appeal to and if so, why isn't DOJ appealing?

I"m also not sure the federalist society is to blame. Many of them are calling these rulings out as shite.

Cannon’s order is so convoluted and beyond the pale that Dearle should decline the appointment out of respect for the rule of law. She put on ongoing federal national security investigation into judicial receivership solely to protect Trump. It is an unprecedented overreach.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the argument that there are papers that aren’t the governments? Papers that really are his, not from his time in office. Just mixed in and disorganized?

Which illiustrates the utter disregard he showed towards government documents and particularly classified documents.

The judge said she does not believe the government can classify documents. Therefore all the documents are not classified per the judge.

Gee, wonder why the ABA would consider her "not qualified"?
Only the best people, right MAGA?

I'm not defending her, but this is simply not true:

https://ballotpedia.org/Aileen_Cannon

I think it's also worth noting that she was confirmed on Nov. 12, 2020, 44 Republicans and 12 Democrats voted in favor, 23 of our vaunted Senators didn't even vote. Her appointment to the federal bench is a bi-partisan failure.

No it is a victory for conservatives and the federalist society. How many of these sleeper judges are there? What are their orders and how hi controls them? Why should the DOJ go along with this judge’s crazy rulings?

Yes, it's a victory for conservatives and the Federalist Society, but not one won on a 51-49 margin. IT WAS HANDED TO THEM. If you are in Virginia, both Warner and Kaine voted to confirm her. I'm planning to write to them and tell them that I object to the confirmation of any federal judge that professes an association with the Federalist Society. I would say I honestly don't understand why that has been tolerated, but in truth I probably understand it all too well.

Also, we need federal judicial reform. Badly. Quickly. Now.

Needs to happen but current democrats have no interest in reforms.

Anonymous wrote:What do people think of Dearie>

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-62893028

He is reknown for moving at a glacial pace. As a judge — particularly on senior status — it’s more difficult to bring on dedicated staff to handle workflow as SM. He typically has a law clerk and courtroom clerk but may have two law clerks depending on active caseload. A retired judge in private practice like Barbara Jones has much greater flexibility. It does sidestep the issue of security clearances.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the argument that there are papers that aren’t the governments? Papers that really are his, not from his time in office. Just mixed in and disorganized?

Which illiustrates the utter disregard he showed towards government documents and particularly classified documents.

The judge said she does not believe the government can classify documents. Therefore all the documents are not classified per the judge.

Who or what classifies documents? This woman should not be a Judge.

No kidding. Apparently she’s not even smart enough to realize how much she is embarrassing herself.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the argument that there are papers that aren’t the governments? Papers that really are his, not from his time in office. Just mixed in and disorganized?

Which illiustrates the utter disregard he showed towards government documents and particularly classified documents.

The judge said she does not believe the government can classify documents. Therefore all the documents are not classified per the judge.

Who or what classifies documents? This woman should not be a Judge.