Did middle schoolers find this board or is someone incredibly intoxicated for a Tuesday

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Anonymous wrote:Any word on the coaches for 2011 girls? Valor moved one of their only good coaches to the 2011 top team after last year's coach left with
the best players for SYC. The second team coach was a parent coach this year.

Looking at the coaching staff, MB does not have a girl on the 2011 team. She is a great coach and has a good reputation coaching Chantilly's varsity team. We need to stop spitting out rumors.

DV is her co-coach and has a daughter on the team.

+1. That team is parent-coached. You need to check your facts before claiming other people are "spitting out rumors".

As a parent on that team, he is the assistant. He is also her assistant at Chantilly. I like having two coaches and he is great with the girls.

And he has a kid on the team, right?

Why are you so worked up?

Nobody is "worked up" but you seem awfully defensive about a plain fact.

No I am sure they are just wondering who hurt you? Parents coach their own kids all the time. Deion just had both of his sons on a college football team. You squak about it more than the talking heads on espn.

You seem to be the one taking this personally for some very mysterious reason.

Everyone else is just talking objective facts. Did the coach have a kid on the team or not? Some people think thats a deal breaker others do not.

If Valor just published their coach list like a normal org with info on the coaches, parents wouldn't have to play Guess Who.

"dId ThE cOaCh HaVe A kId On ThE tEaM oR nOt" some of y'all are so weird about this. Would you rather have a less qualified coach that doesn't have a child on the team? Should Valor have a DEI office that makes sure there are an even amount of childless coaches?

There is no advantage in a "parent coach" situation for the other families. Only negatives. Why can't Valor hire professional coaches?

Why won't pp answer the question about whether the 2011 coach has a kid on the team he coaches? If it doesn't matter at all, then why not just admit it instead of 1) talk about how great the coach is and then 2) deflect?

I could name multiple advantages to having a parent coach...

- Understands parent schedules (b/c they are one)
- Understands the kids better (b/c they have their own)
- Knows how to communicate on and off the field with kids that age (b/c they have their own)

Shall I keep going?

It is flat out diabolical to even suggest that having a child on the team diminishes another coaches ability to coach other players. But by all means, do a disservice to your own child and put them on a team with a less qualified coach solely b/c that coach is childless

These are generic advantages to a human being a parent.

We are specifically talking about a parent coaching his own child, on the same team as your child.

Now do those advantages.

Name the disadvantages... besides your child not being better than the coach's child... b/c lets be honest here, that's your real gripe. If the coach's kid was terrible, you wouldn't care... but their kid is clearly better than your kid lol

So many ways this dynamic can go wrong and none of it benefits the other children. I would never put my kid in this situation to begin with. You do you, though. Free country.

Probably b/c your kid is also worse than the coach’s kid

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Anonymous wrote:It sucks for the players in an age grouo when the top team coach is the same for 3, 4 years. They deserve a coach with a fresh outlook. The top coaches get set views on kids and won't move up 2nd team kids over taking outsiders. The top team coach will have favorites.

According to a parent- 2014 girls top team is made up of only a handful of previous year top team players. The other half are made up of previous year second and third team, one from other Loudoun, and one who never played soccer before but is now the main striker.
If true this should dispel the myth that players never move up. But this begs the question of whether the team is so bad that a kid who never played soccer before is their main striker and half were players moved up from second and third team

Nope.

Anonymous wrote:If parents attending tryouts tonight could
add any info on coaches to this board it would be greatly appreciated. In the absence of any comms from Valor this is an invaluable resource.

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Anonymous wrote:It sucks for the players in an age grouo when the top team coach is the same for 3, 4 years. They deserve a coach with a fresh outlook. The top coaches get set views on kids and won't move up 2nd team kids over taking outsiders. The top team coach will have favorites.

According to a parent- 2014 girls top team is made up of only a handful of previous year top team players. The other half are made up of previous year second and third team, one from other Loudoun, and one who never played soccer before but is now the main striker.
If true this should dispel the myth that players never move up. But this begs the question of whether the team is so bad that a kid who never played soccer before is their main striker and half were players moved up from second and third team

If parents attending tryouts tonight could
add any info on coaches to this board it would be greatly appreciated. In the absence of any comms from Valor this is an invaluable resource.

Anonymous wrote:haha the amount of time spent towards complaining on this page by grown adults is comical. I feel like I am reading the Comments of a controversial post made by teenagers looking tough or who think they are smarter or more informed than the rest of society. Getting satisfaction promoting none sense behind a keyboard

Yet here you are

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Anonymous wrote:It sucks for the players in an age grouo when the top team coach is the same for 3, 4 years. They deserve a coach with a fresh outlook. The top coaches get set views on kids and won't move up 2nd team kids over taking outsiders. The top team coach will have favorites.

You have one parent complaining that kids are being brought up from 2nd to 1st team. You have parents complaining it never happens. This is the type of inconsistent gripes on this page that should render most of the complaints as invalid.

Yes. Not having coaches announced is indeed messed up. But this is not the only club with vacancies in teams. There are actual problems, but they’re not unique to this club.

Its almost like across 50 teams people have different experiences. Doesn't "render their complaint invalid".

Meaning- it is not all of Valor. Nor is it all of any other club. It is "invalid" when trying to paint this as a problem for the whole club.

Anonymous wrote:I don't have the time or the daytime alcohol consumption to follow this thread, but i looked online and can't find the coach slate. Is it actually still missing!?

Yes. Valor just started hiring coaches for next year. They literally posted a help wanted ad on social media. Its sad. Your kid will likely tryout with no idea as to who the coach will be. And Valor will want that deposit money!

I don't have the time or the daytime alcohol consumption to follow this thread, but i looked online and can't find the coach slate. Is it actually still missing!?

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Anonymous wrote:It sucks for the players in an age grouo when the top team coach is the same for 3, 4 years. They deserve a coach with a fresh outlook. The top coaches get set views on kids and won't move up 2nd team kids over taking outsiders. The top team coach will have favorites.

You have one parent complaining that kids are being brought up from 2nd to 1st team. You have parents complaining it never happens. This is the type of inconsistent gripes on this page that should render most of the complaints as invalid.

Yes. Not having coaches announced is indeed messed up. But this is not the only club with vacancies in teams. There are actual problems, but they’re not unique to this club.

Its almost like across 50 teams people have different experiences. Doesn't "render their complaint invalid".

Serious question - to the parent claiming the coach is "turning over the team" (if I am comprehending that diatribe correctly)-
Is your kid the only one not being selected from the previous group? Also, which team are we talking about?

Jesus Chirst how long did this take to write? Did you have a moment before pressing submit where you thought "what the actual luck am I doing with my life"

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If anyone gets any secret information at the tryouts about the coaching staff, please post here! [/quote]
2014's. 3 teams 3 coaches named. [/quote]

Okay, who were the coaches?[/quote]

1st Team - Israel aka Stevie, aka “trust the process” of passing drills, scrimmaging, and playing in fear of making mistakes to the point of preferring to sit the bench or simply skipping games and events.

2nd Team - Cory Fick aka Girls Director responsible for hiring both Israel and Chris The division is such a mess he had to assign himself the 2nd team unless he’s simply a placeholder til he finds another coach. Only time will tell since he certainly wouldn’t tell a parent the truth. If the philosophy is, blow up the 14G division by driving the best players to Loudoun, VDA, or Revolution and then start over by promoting the 2nd team to the 1st, than Bravo Zulu. Selling the clout of the 1st team to parents on the current 2nd team should work. Hopefully there are enough new naive families coming in willing to accept playing on the second team since you know there’s no way in hell they’ll accept an offer from the 3rd team.

3rd Chris Rivera (same parent coach as now) If your a current player on the 3rd team and your fortunate enough that your dd still wants to play soccer another year, don’t worry, there should be plenty opportunities to move to the second team If not, then make sure your dd’s appt with her psychiatrist is right after training otherwise, simply go somewhere else. For the grace of the players and families, hopefully there isn’t a 3rd team next year.

Again, Bravo Zulu Valor. VDA here we come.[/quote]
Thanks for the summary. Good luck at VSA. Have they sent out offers yet? Do they have any idea they are losing players. For the sake of discussion would the 2nd team be a terrible place for a middle of the pack player? If there is no 3rd team wouldn't CR move up to 2 if Cory is placeholder? [/quote]
Just be cautious to committing w/no coach and the possibility of a default promotion. There's plenty of info on this thread on the 14G division from the Fall and early Spring. The result of Cory's efforts to hire a coach have not yet succeeded but as parents we have to assume he doesn't believe CR is the best fit for 2nd team or he would have already made the decision. For those who stay to play on 2nd it is not likely to be for the coaching. How can it be when you don't know who it will be? If they move him by default they likely didn't have enough to field a 3rd team therefore the default promotion. [/quote]
Does this mean Cory for sure is a placeholder? If he was the coach is that good or bad? [/quote]

No one knows anything for sure. All rumors until Valor actually posts info.[/quote]
Fair enough. I'm sure there's a golden ticket out there by now, who is listed as the coach on the offer letter. [/quote]

Our offer email last year just listed the team.
Not the coach.[/quote]

Yeah same but they didn't have a coach for that team and didn't hire one until August.[/quote]Trust the process, but your kid is dumb and sucks because they cant adapt to fulfill the process. Also, we are passing because they suck, I want to do more advanced stuff but they aren’t good enough. It is all the prior coaches fault that your kid sucks at soccer even though I’ve had a year to coach them. Turning over the team because these 10 year olds are a lost cause, make dumb decisions and suck at futbol. That has been the messaging for quite some time. Buyer be warned.[/quote]

^This right here. IYKYK.

haha the amount of time spent towards complaining on this page by grown adults is comical. I feel like I am reading the Comments of a controversial post made by teenagers looking tough or who think they are smarter or more informed than the rest of society. Getting satisfaction promoting none sense behind a keyboard