Anonymous
Post 08/12/2024 17:35     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Don't be fooled.... she is not tough on crime. At all.

Outrage at Kamala Harris as pedophile who brutally raped and murdered eight-year-old neighbor is set to go free thanks to woke California juvenile justice law VP authored

A violent pedophile who brutally raped and murdered his eight-year-old neighbor could be released from jail this fall due to a 2016 justice reform authored by Kamala Harris during her tenure as California’s Attorney General.

Adrian Jerry ‘AJ’ Gonzalez, 24, was just 15 when he lured Madyson Middleton into his mother’s apartment with promises of ice cream before strangling, stabbing and raping her.

The brutal killer then wrapped her body in plastic bags and threw it in a dumpster outside the Santa Cruz apartment complex where they both lived.

Now, Gonzalez is set for release when he turns 25 – a rule that applies to all offenders convicted in juvenile court in California.

The killer has benefited from California’s 2016 Public Safety and Rehabilitation Act, also known as Proposition 57, which changed the rules on juvenile offenders and meant those who committed crimes before they turned 17 can only be moved to an adult court following a full hearing.

Criminals convicted in juvenile court are automatically eligible for parole when they turn 25 – meaning Gonzalez will have served just three years if he is released in stark contrast to the two life terms he would have faced in adult court.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13688413/outrage-kamala-harris-california-law-adrian-jerry-gonzalez-madyson-middleton.html


You want children tried as adults before there is a hearing on what evidence exists?


If you are murdered or brutally raped by a person 13 or older, are you less dead or less harmed because the perpetrator is a teen?


Do you think there is no division to be made between children and adults committing crimes, and if so, having a judge adjudicate exceptions?

What is wrong with you?


Weirdos thinking children are the same as adults. Guess that's why they think 14 year olds should be forced to give birth.


I think if this 15 YO had brutally murdered your daughter and dumped her in a dumpster, you might feel a little differently about incarcerating him.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2024 17:34     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:Don't be fooled.... she is not tough on crime. At all.

Outrage at Kamala Harris as pedophile who brutally raped and murdered eight-year-old neighbor is set to go free thanks to woke California juvenile justice law VP authored

A violent pedophile who brutally raped and murdered his eight-year-old neighbor could be released from jail this fall due to a 2016 justice reform authored by Kamala Harris during her tenure as California’s Attorney General.

Adrian Jerry ‘AJ’ Gonzalez, 24, was just 15 when he lured Madyson Middleton into his mother’s apartment with promises of ice cream before strangling, stabbing and raping her.

The brutal killer then wrapped her body in plastic bags and threw it in a dumpster outside the Santa Cruz apartment complex where they both lived.

Now, Gonzalez is set for release when he turns 25 – a rule that applies to all offenders convicted in juvenile court in California.

The killer has benefited from California’s 2016 Public Safety and Rehabilitation Act, also known as Proposition 57, which changed the rules on juvenile offenders and meant those who committed crimes before they turned 17 can only be moved to an adult court following a full hearing.

Criminals convicted in juvenile court are automatically eligible for parole when they turn 25 – meaning Gonzalez will have served just three years if he is released in stark contrast to the two life terms he would have faced in adult court.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13688413/outrage-kamala-harris-california-law-adrian-jerry-gonzalez-madyson-middleton.html


Counterpoint

Anonymous
Post 08/12/2024 17:34     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:Don't be fooled.... she is not tough on crime. At all.

Outrage at Kamala Harris as pedophile who brutally raped and murdered eight-year-old neighbor is set to go free thanks to woke California juvenile justice law VP authored

A violent pedophile who brutally raped and murdered his eight-year-old neighbor could be released from jail this fall due to a 2016 justice reform authored by Kamala Harris during her tenure as California’s Attorney General.

Adrian Jerry ‘AJ’ Gonzalez, 24, was just 15 when he lured Madyson Middleton into his mother’s apartment with promises of ice cream before strangling, stabbing and raping her.

The brutal killer then wrapped her body in plastic bags and threw it in a dumpster outside the Santa Cruz apartment complex where they both lived.

Now, Gonzalez is set for release when he turns 25 – a rule that applies to all offenders convicted in juvenile court in California.

The killer has benefited from California’s 2016 Public Safety and Rehabilitation Act, also known as Proposition 57, which changed the rules on juvenile offenders and meant those who committed crimes before they turned 17 can only be moved to an adult court following a full hearing.

Criminals convicted in juvenile court are automatically eligible for parole when they turn 25 – meaning Gonzalez will have served just three years if he is released in stark contrast to the two life terms he would have faced in adult court.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13688413/outrage-kamala-harris-california-law-adrian-jerry-gonzalez-madyson-middleton.html


Counterpoint

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Anonymous
Post 08/12/2024 17:34     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't be fooled.... she is not tough on crime. At all.

Outrage at Kamala Harris as pedophile who brutally raped and murdered eight-year-old neighbor is set to go free thanks to woke California juvenile justice law VP authored

A violent pedophile who brutally raped and murdered his eight-year-old neighbor could be released from jail this fall due to a 2016 justice reform authored by Kamala Harris during her tenure as California’s Attorney General.

Adrian Jerry ‘AJ’ Gonzalez, 24, was just 15 when he lured Madyson Middleton into his mother’s apartment with promises of ice cream before strangling, stabbing and raping her.

The brutal killer then wrapped her body in plastic bags and threw it in a dumpster outside the Santa Cruz apartment complex where they both lived.

Now, Gonzalez is set for release when he turns 25 – a rule that applies to all offenders convicted in juvenile court in California.

The killer has benefited from California’s 2016 Public Safety and Rehabilitation Act, also known as Proposition 57, which changed the rules on juvenile offenders and meant those who committed crimes before they turned 17 can only be moved to an adult court following a full hearing.

Criminals convicted in juvenile court are automatically eligible for parole when they turn 25 – meaning Gonzalez will have served just three years if he is released in stark contrast to the two life terms he would have faced in adult court.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13688413/outrage-kamala-harris-california-law-adrian-jerry-gonzalez-madyson-middleton.html

This is complete BS. Proposition 57 was passed by the voters and ONLY APPLIES TO NONVIOLENT FELONS.
https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/BTB24-5H-1.pdf


Regarding the "nonviolent" BS:

https://calmatters.org/commentary/2022/12/tricky-measure-allows-release-of-violent-felons/
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2024 17:30     Subject: Kamala Harris for President

I guess the barrage of Daily Mail links telling us half-truths about Harris and hoping something sticks is now coming our way.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2024 17:28     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't be fooled.... she is not tough on crime. At all.

Outrage at Kamala Harris as pedophile who brutally raped and murdered eight-year-old neighbor is set to go free thanks to woke California juvenile justice law VP authored

A violent pedophile who brutally raped and murdered his eight-year-old neighbor could be released from jail this fall due to a 2016 justice reform authored by Kamala Harris during her tenure as California’s Attorney General.

Adrian Jerry ‘AJ’ Gonzalez, 24, was just 15 when he lured Madyson Middleton into his mother’s apartment with promises of ice cream before strangling, stabbing and raping her.

The brutal killer then wrapped her body in plastic bags and threw it in a dumpster outside the Santa Cruz apartment complex where they both lived.

Now, Gonzalez is set for release when he turns 25 – a rule that applies to all offenders convicted in juvenile court in California.

The killer has benefited from California’s 2016 Public Safety and Rehabilitation Act, also known as Proposition 57, which changed the rules on juvenile offenders and meant those who committed crimes before they turned 17 can only be moved to an adult court following a full hearing.

Criminals convicted in juvenile court are automatically eligible for parole when they turn 25 – meaning Gonzalez will have served just three years if he is released in stark contrast to the two life terms he would have faced in adult court.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13688413/outrage-kamala-harris-california-law-adrian-jerry-gonzalez-madyson-middleton.html


You want children tried as adults before there is a hearing on what evidence exists?


If you are murdered or brutally raped by a person 13 or older, are you less dead or less harmed because the perpetrator is a teen?


Do you think there is no division to be made between children and adults committing crimes, and if so, having a judge adjudicate exceptions?

What is wrong with you?


Weirdos thinking children are the same as adults. Guess that's why they think 14 year olds should be forced to give birth.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2024 17:27     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't be fooled.... she is not tough on crime. At all.

Outrage at Kamala Harris as pedophile who brutally raped and murdered eight-year-old neighbor is set to go free thanks to woke California juvenile justice law VP authored

A violent pedophile who brutally raped and murdered his eight-year-old neighbor could be released from jail this fall due to a 2016 justice reform authored by Kamala Harris during her tenure as California’s Attorney General.

Adrian Jerry ‘AJ’ Gonzalez, 24, was just 15 when he lured Madyson Middleton into his mother’s apartment with promises of ice cream before strangling, stabbing and raping her.

The brutal killer then wrapped her body in plastic bags and threw it in a dumpster outside the Santa Cruz apartment complex where they both lived.

Now, Gonzalez is set for release when he turns 25 – a rule that applies to all offenders convicted in juvenile court in California.

The killer has benefited from California’s 2016 Public Safety and Rehabilitation Act, also known as Proposition 57, which changed the rules on juvenile offenders and meant those who committed crimes before they turned 17 can only be moved to an adult court following a full hearing.

Criminals convicted in juvenile court are automatically eligible for parole when they turn 25 – meaning Gonzalez will have served just three years if he is released in stark contrast to the two life terms he would have faced in adult court.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13688413/outrage-kamala-harris-california-law-adrian-jerry-gonzalez-madyson-middleton.html


What makes this "Kamala Harris's Reform?"
I don't see her name on it anywhere.

https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_57,_Parole_for_Non-Violent_Criminals_and_Juvenile_Court_Trial_Requirements_(2016)


From the link:

Prop 57 also legislated for the release of ‘non-violent offenders’ before they have finished serving their full term – which has already led to criminals who went on to kill being busted out of jail.

The loose wording saw Harris criticized during her successful 2016 Senate run, with her opponent then-Rep. Loretta Sanchez pointing out that the now Vice-President’s definition of ‘non-violent’ crimes included the rape of an unconscious person and human trafficking.

In a statement released at the time, the Democrat said: ‘The ballot title and summary, written by Attorney General Kamala Harris, calls serious violent crimes 'non-violent,' including crimes such as rape by intoxication of an unconscious person, human trafficking involving a sex act with minors.

‘Proposition 57 is the misleading and dangerous ballot initiative that would allow serious, violent criminals out on early release without completing their sentences.’

Harris, who was careful not to state explicitly that she supported the legislation she wrote, has nonetheless long supported releasing underage criminals.

In June 2016, while the campaign for Prop 57 was in full swing, Harris released a mailshot entitled ‘Attorney General Kamala D. Harris Supports Legislation to End Juvenile Confinement.’

In the press release, she described measures to release juvenile criminals as ‘common sense’ and ‘smart on crime’.

She continued: ‘I am proud to support common-sense, ‘smart on crime’ legislation that helps those currently and formerly incarcerated overcome obstacles to get their lives back on track, and meet their full potential.’
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2024 17:23     Subject: Kamala Harris for President

She also refused to review the suicide finding in Rebecca Zahau’s bizarre death. Meanwhile, a man was found criminally culpable in a civil suit. She does not seem on the ball, how could she miss this?

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/california-ag-wont-review-suicide-findings-in-bizarre-death-of-rebecca-zahau-6630223

Anonymous
Post 08/12/2024 17:15     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:Don't be fooled.... she is not tough on crime. At all.

Outrage at Kamala Harris as pedophile who brutally raped and murdered eight-year-old neighbor is set to go free thanks to woke California juvenile justice law VP authored

A violent pedophile who brutally raped and murdered his eight-year-old neighbor could be released from jail this fall due to a 2016 justice reform authored by Kamala Harris during her tenure as California’s Attorney General.

Adrian Jerry ‘AJ’ Gonzalez, 24, was just 15 when he lured Madyson Middleton into his mother’s apartment with promises of ice cream before strangling, stabbing and raping her.

The brutal killer then wrapped her body in plastic bags and threw it in a dumpster outside the Santa Cruz apartment complex where they both lived.

Now, Gonzalez is set for release when he turns 25 – a rule that applies to all offenders convicted in juvenile court in California.

The killer has benefited from California’s 2016 Public Safety and Rehabilitation Act, also known as Proposition 57, which changed the rules on juvenile offenders and meant those who committed crimes before they turned 17 can only be moved to an adult court following a full hearing.

Criminals convicted in juvenile court are automatically eligible for parole when they turn 25 – meaning Gonzalez will have served just three years if he is released in stark contrast to the two life terms he would have faced in adult court.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13688413/outrage-kamala-harris-california-law-adrian-jerry-gonzalez-madyson-middleton.html

This is complete BS. Proposition 57 was passed by the voters and ONLY APPLIES TO NONVIOLENT FELONS.
https://www.courts.ca.gov/documents/BTB24-5H-1.pdf
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2024 16:56     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't be fooled.... she is not tough on crime. At all.

Outrage at Kamala Harris as pedophile who brutally raped and murdered eight-year-old neighbor is set to go free thanks to woke California juvenile justice law VP authored

A violent pedophile who brutally raped and murdered his eight-year-old neighbor could be released from jail this fall due to a 2016 justice reform authored by Kamala Harris during her tenure as California’s Attorney General.

Adrian Jerry ‘AJ’ Gonzalez, 24, was just 15 when he lured Madyson Middleton into his mother’s apartment with promises of ice cream before strangling, stabbing and raping her.

The brutal killer then wrapped her body in plastic bags and threw it in a dumpster outside the Santa Cruz apartment complex where they both lived.

Now, Gonzalez is set for release when he turns 25 – a rule that applies to all offenders convicted in juvenile court in California.

The killer has benefited from California’s 2016 Public Safety and Rehabilitation Act, also known as Proposition 57, which changed the rules on juvenile offenders and meant those who committed crimes before they turned 17 can only be moved to an adult court following a full hearing.

Criminals convicted in juvenile court are automatically eligible for parole when they turn 25 – meaning Gonzalez will have served just three years if he is released in stark contrast to the two life terms he would have faced in adult court.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13688413/outrage-kamala-harris-california-law-adrian-jerry-gonzalez-madyson-middleton.html


You want children tried as adults before there is a hearing on what evidence exists?


If you are murdered or brutally raped by a person 13 or older, are you less dead or less harmed because the perpetrator is a teen?


Do you think there is no division to be made between children and adults committing crimes, and if so, having a judge adjudicate exceptions?

What is wrong with you?
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2024 16:53     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Don't be fooled.... she is not tough on crime. At all.

Outrage at Kamala Harris as pedophile who brutally raped and murdered eight-year-old neighbor is set to go free thanks to woke California juvenile justice law VP authored

A violent pedophile who brutally raped and murdered his eight-year-old neighbor could be released from jail this fall due to a 2016 justice reform authored by Kamala Harris during her tenure as California’s Attorney General.

Adrian Jerry ‘AJ’ Gonzalez, 24, was just 15 when he lured Madyson Middleton into his mother’s apartment with promises of ice cream before strangling, stabbing and raping her.

The brutal killer then wrapped her body in plastic bags and threw it in a dumpster outside the Santa Cruz apartment complex where they both lived.

Now, Gonzalez is set for release when he turns 25 – a rule that applies to all offenders convicted in juvenile court in California.

The killer has benefited from California’s 2016 Public Safety and Rehabilitation Act, also known as Proposition 57, which changed the rules on juvenile offenders and meant those who committed crimes before they turned 17 can only be moved to an adult court following a full hearing.

Criminals convicted in juvenile court are automatically eligible for parole when they turn 25 – meaning Gonzalez will have served just three years if he is released in stark contrast to the two life terms he would have faced in adult court.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13688413/outrage-kamala-harris-california-law-adrian-jerry-gonzalez-madyson-middleton.html


You want children tried as adults before there is a hearing on what evidence exists?


If you are murdered or brutally raped by a person 13 or older, are you less dead or less harmed because the perpetrator is a teen?
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2024 16:51     Subject: Kamala Harris for President


I can't believe PP think it's a problem to have due process for moving the trial venue for minor children to an adult court.

I know there are some bad kids out there, but what's wrong with having a judge formally assess what's going on before you make that kind of decision? We're a nation of laws, not vigilante justice.
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2024 16:49     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:Don't be fooled.... she is not tough on crime. At all.

Outrage at Kamala Harris as pedophile who brutally raped and murdered eight-year-old neighbor is set to go free thanks to woke California juvenile justice law VP authored

A violent pedophile who brutally raped and murdered his eight-year-old neighbor could be released from jail this fall due to a 2016 justice reform authored by Kamala Harris during her tenure as California’s Attorney General.

Adrian Jerry ‘AJ’ Gonzalez, 24, was just 15 when he lured Madyson Middleton into his mother’s apartment with promises of ice cream before strangling, stabbing and raping her.

The brutal killer then wrapped her body in plastic bags and threw it in a dumpster outside the Santa Cruz apartment complex where they both lived.

Now, Gonzalez is set for release when he turns 25 – a rule that applies to all offenders convicted in juvenile court in California.

The killer has benefited from California’s 2016 Public Safety and Rehabilitation Act, also known as Proposition 57, which changed the rules on juvenile offenders and meant those who committed crimes before they turned 17 can only be moved to an adult court following a full hearing.

Criminals convicted in juvenile court are automatically eligible for parole when they turn 25 – meaning Gonzalez will have served just three years if he is released in stark contrast to the two life terms he would have faced in adult court.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13688413/outrage-kamala-harris-california-law-adrian-jerry-gonzalez-madyson-middleton.html


What makes this "Kamala Harris's Reform?"
I don't see her name on it anywhere.

https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_57,_Parole_for_Non-Violent_Criminals_and_Juvenile_Court_Trial_Requirements_(2016)
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2024 16:41     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Anonymous wrote:Don't be fooled.... she is not tough on crime. At all.

Outrage at Kamala Harris as pedophile who brutally raped and murdered eight-year-old neighbor is set to go free thanks to woke California juvenile justice law VP authored

A violent pedophile who brutally raped and murdered his eight-year-old neighbor could be released from jail this fall due to a 2016 justice reform authored by Kamala Harris during her tenure as California’s Attorney General.

Adrian Jerry ‘AJ’ Gonzalez, 24, was just 15 when he lured Madyson Middleton into his mother’s apartment with promises of ice cream before strangling, stabbing and raping her.

The brutal killer then wrapped her body in plastic bags and threw it in a dumpster outside the Santa Cruz apartment complex where they both lived.

Now, Gonzalez is set for release when he turns 25 – a rule that applies to all offenders convicted in juvenile court in California.

The killer has benefited from California’s 2016 Public Safety and Rehabilitation Act, also known as Proposition 57, which changed the rules on juvenile offenders and meant those who committed crimes before they turned 17 can only be moved to an adult court following a full hearing.

Criminals convicted in juvenile court are automatically eligible for parole when they turn 25 – meaning Gonzalez will have served just three years if he is released in stark contrast to the two life terms he would have faced in adult court.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13688413/outrage-kamala-harris-california-law-adrian-jerry-gonzalez-madyson-middleton.html


You want children tried as adults before there is a hearing on what evidence exists?
Anonymous
Post 08/12/2024 16:36     Subject: Re:Kamala Harris for President

Don't be fooled.... she is not tough on crime. At all.

Outrage at Kamala Harris as pedophile who brutally raped and murdered eight-year-old neighbor is set to go free thanks to woke California juvenile justice law VP authored

A violent pedophile who brutally raped and murdered his eight-year-old neighbor could be released from jail this fall due to a 2016 justice reform authored by Kamala Harris during her tenure as California’s Attorney General.

Adrian Jerry ‘AJ’ Gonzalez, 24, was just 15 when he lured Madyson Middleton into his mother’s apartment with promises of ice cream before strangling, stabbing and raping her.

The brutal killer then wrapped her body in plastic bags and threw it in a dumpster outside the Santa Cruz apartment complex where they both lived.

Now, Gonzalez is set for release when he turns 25 – a rule that applies to all offenders convicted in juvenile court in California.

The killer has benefited from California’s 2016 Public Safety and Rehabilitation Act, also known as Proposition 57, which changed the rules on juvenile offenders and meant those who committed crimes before they turned 17 can only be moved to an adult court following a full hearing.

Criminals convicted in juvenile court are automatically eligible for parole when they turn 25 – meaning Gonzalez will have served just three years if he is released in stark contrast to the two life terms he would have faced in adult court.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13688413/outrage-kamala-harris-california-law-adrian-jerry-gonzalez-madyson-middleton.html