Don't mistake bad implementation of DE&I with all forms of DE&I.

"How is it that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of negroes?" ---Samuel Johnson (1775)

George Carlin called upon us to remember that America was founded by white male slave owners who wanted to be free.

Finally. Justice for white executives. Free at last.

Anonymous wrote:A former top executive in a North Carolina-based health care system who claimed in a lawsuit that he lost his job because he is a white male was awarded $10 million by a federal jury on Tuesday.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/hospital-executive-wins-10m-discrimination-case-80801528

Previous poster for this link: discrimination is bad either way and I feel for the white guy that was fired and the people who replaced him b/c they seem to have been treated like tokens.

A former top executive in a North Carolina-based health care system who claimed in a lawsuit that he lost his job because he is a white male was awarded $10 million by a federal jury on Tuesday.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/hospital-executive-wins-10m-discrimination-case-80801528

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Anonymous wrote:Preference and privilege have always been based on race. Not only race, but all the other preference networks, especially class and religion, were also partly based on race. It’s hilarious that you all think this has ever been a merit-based society rather than a privilege-based society.

It doesn't have to be one thing or the other. It can be - and is - a mix.

But it is offensive for all these lazy mediocre white people to pretend that blacks invented race-based preferences.

No. It is known that arrogant, supposedly liberal whites created race-based preferences as they think blacks needed the help because they are inferior, and in providing overt help would blindly secure their votes for years to come. You know what? It worked. You fell for it.

Are you and the PP who ranted against "mediocre white people" the same person? Because both posts reflect views that are cartoonishly over-simplified. "Lazy mediocre white people who pretend that whites invented race-based preferences" on one side versus "arrogant, supposedly liberal white people who invented race based preferences because they think blacks are inferior."

I think we should all bring down the temperature on this: at least 49% of people from all races are below average in something.

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Anonymous wrote:Preference and privilege have always been based on race. Not only race, but all the other preference networks, especially class and religion, were also partly based on race. It’s hilarious that you all think this has ever been a merit-based society rather than a privilege-based society.

It doesn't have to be one thing or the other. It can be - and is - a mix.

But it is offensive for all these lazy mediocre white people to pretend that blacks invented race-based preferences.

No. It is known that arrogant, supposedly liberal whites created race-based preferences as they think blacks needed the help because they are inferior, and in providing overt help would blindly secure their votes for years to come. You know what? It worked. You fell for it.

Are you and the PP who ranted against "mediocre white people" the same person? Because both posts reflect views that are cartoonishly over-simplified. "Lazy mediocre white people who pretend that whites invented race-based preferences" on one side versus "arrogant, supposedly liberal white people who invented race based preferences because they think blacks are inferior."

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Anonymous wrote:Preference and privilege have always been based on race. Not only race, but all the other preference networks, especially class and religion, were also partly based on race. It’s hilarious that you all think this has ever been a merit-based society rather than a privilege-based society.

It doesn't have to be one thing or the other. It can be - and is - a mix.

But it is offensive for all these lazy mediocre white people to pretend that blacks invented race-based preferences.

Well, then, by all means. Let's stand against lazy mediocre white people who pretend that blacks invented race-based preferences. I don't think that's a very big group and I don't think sidelining them is going to make a big difference in pursuing larger policy goals, but let's go get 'em!

Anonymous wrote:Preference and privilege have always been based on race. Not only race, but all the other preference networks, especially class and religion, were also partly based on race. It’s hilarious that you all think this has ever been a merit-based society rather than a privilege-based society.

I think it is hilarious that you think everything is based race. And please explain more how religion is "partly based on race"? Or explains the black slave owners of fellow blacks in the African cultural history? Or asian slave owners of fellow asians? Or religious persecution of any number of followers over history depending on historical time?

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Anonymous wrote:Preference and privilege have always been based on race. Not only race, but all the other preference networks, especially class and religion, were also partly based on race. It’s hilarious that you all think this has ever been a merit-based society rather than a privilege-based society.

It doesn't have to be one thing or the other. It can be - and is - a mix.

But it is offensive for all these lazy mediocre white people to pretend that blacks invented race-based preferences.

No. It is known that arrogant, supposedly liberal whites created race-based preferences as they think blacks needed the help because they are inferior, and in providing overt help would blindly secure their votes for years to come. You know what? It worked. You fell for it.

OK, Mr. Birch. You are clueless. Race-based preference is what kept blacks down for all of U.S. history. Why does removing that boot off their necks terrify you so much? I’m from Mississippi, so I’ve heard racist bullshit my whole life. Yes, it is always the lazy mediocre white people who are obsessed with keeping blacks in their place. They know they can’t cut it without that white privilege carrying them.

Your argument is incoherent. Removing the boot does not terrify me at all. It is you that are afraid of cutting it without government assistance. I know many successful people of all colors and ethnicities. None of them made it because of government assistance. They made it because they worked harder and smarter than others. Period. And now that they’ve made it, again regardless of race, they have an open mind to politics and aren’t pigeon holed into a singular way of thinking. You should try it.

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As a society we need shared values that we can all support. Policies should be colorblind and help and opportunities should be available to everyone regardless of their race.

I am tired of people like Pelosi saying "Our diversity is our strength."
No, Nancy. Our shared values is what makes us strong.
The focus should be on how we are alike - not different.

Nancy Pelosi is right. You are Alt-Right.

I like Nancy Pelosi, but think the DE&I stuff has gone too far.

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As a society we need shared values that we can all support. Policies should be colorblind and help and opportunities should be available to everyone regardless of their race.

I am tired of people like Pelosi saying "Our diversity is our strength."
No, Nancy. Our shared values is what makes us strong.
The focus should be on how we are alike - not different.

Nancy Pelosi is right. You are Alt-Right.

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Anonymous wrote:Preference and privilege have always been based on race. Not only race, but all the other preference networks, especially class and religion, were also partly based on race. It’s hilarious that you all think this has ever been a merit-based society rather than a privilege-based society.

It doesn't have to be one thing or the other. It can be - and is - a mix.

But it is offensive for all these lazy mediocre white people to pretend that blacks invented race-based preferences.

No. It is known that arrogant, supposedly liberal whites created race-based preferences as they think blacks needed the help because they are inferior, and in providing overt help would blindly secure their votes for years to come. You know what? It worked. You fell for it.

OK, Mr. Birch. You are clueless. Race-based preference is what kept blacks down for all of U.S. history. Why does removing that boot off their necks terrify you so much? I’m from Mississippi, so I’ve heard racist bullshit my whole life. Yes, it is always the lazy mediocre white people who are obsessed with keeping blacks in their place. They know they can’t cut it without that white privilege carrying them.

Anonymous wrote:

As a society we need shared values that we can all support. Policies should be colorblind and help and opportunities should be available to everyone regardless of their race.

I am tired of people like Pelosi saying "Our diversity is our strength."
No, Nancy. Our shared values is what makes us strong.
The focus should be on how we are alike - not different.

+10000

E Pluribus Unum

So much of what has made American what it is is the idea that an American can look like anything and anyone, that people from all over the world can come here and become, simply, American.

The modern Identity Politics obsession with binning everyone into hyphenated categories and scoring them against each other is attacking the fundamental fabric of the country.

This isn't unifying!

If there is anyone that still wishes for a more unified America, where all politics aren't reduced to a zero-sum game between two warring extremes, stop dividing people.

Stop teaching people that every policy must be examined first and foremost through the lens of identity. Stop teaching children that their race/ancestry is what defines them and that the country is full of oppressors and oppressed.

We need to build a society where people are judged on their actual achievements and that pathways to success exist for all, but that those pathways are as colorblind, and sex/religion/etc blind as possible.