Anonymous wrote:There have been so many points during this trial that I was overcome with emotion. At first it was when the children were testifying. Then it was when the firefighter was testifying and they shoed the video at critical points. It was excruciating. I've seen it before, but tears fell from eyes almost involuntarily. What Chauvin did was so inhumane and shocking. GF died in agony.

And he was so calm. Sociopathic POS

Anonymous wrote:There have been so many points during this trial that I was overcome with emotion. At first it was when the children were testifying. Then it was when the firefighter was testifying and they shoed the video at critical points. It was excruciating. I've seen it before, but tears fell from eyes almost involuntarily. What Chauvin did was so inhumane and shocking. GF died in agony.

Yes, today’s testimony was needed. My heart is so heavy.

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Very effective testimony and effective prosecution. A+ for this line of questioning.

There have been so many points during this trial that I was overcome with emotion. At first it was when the children were testifying. Then it was when the firefighter was testifying and they shoed the video at critical points. It was excruciating. I've seen it before, but tears fell from eyes almost involuntarily. What Chauvin did was so inhumane and shocking. GF died in agony.

He pinpointed the exact time when there was no air left in George’s body, his brain was damaged, and his heart stopped. He mentioned that you can see death in a person’s face and you can see that when looking at the pictures; he looked different and small. He described in detail how George was slowly tortured. Dr. Tobin showed when George was gasping to breath reaching out with his curled fingers trying to get air through his fingers after that, his leg raised in reflex as his last effort to get air into his compressed lungs. Dr. Tobin loosened his tie and had the jury follow along the neck to to learn about anatomy as he demonstrated how George was asphyxiated. He used 3-d imaging to recreate the officers excessive force and weight on George Floyd’s body and neck. He calculated Chauvin’s weight and weapon belt and showed a picture where he had his total weight on George’s neck with an image of Chauvin kneeling with such force that his shoe was off the ground. He calculated the time when he died and that Chauvin still remained on him for 3 minutes more. Everything was based on numbers, equations, science and evidence. It was raw testimony that I had not heard before, so upsetting that I turned off the tv.

This testimony sealed this trial. It was that haunting.

that combover is glorious.

Anonymous wrote:Dr. Tobin really broke down some complex things, especially the dangers of prone restraint.

The Hennepin County Medical Examiner will testify tomorrow, which is interesting because it’s unusual not to start the medical experts with the medical examiner who conducted the autopsy. But after this morning/afternoon I can see why the prosecution started with Dr. Tobin.

The only question I had was that the medical examiner cited a pulmonary embolism and it didn’t seem like Dr. Tobin really explained that mechanism (it may be irrelevant but as someone who isn’t a doctor I wondered about the mechanism). I’ve seen material from other expert witnesses on prone restraint asphyxiation that explained some connection between emboli and prone restraint. So maybe that is coming. And the jury would be seeing this with a clean slate as far as analyzing the autopsy. So I think starting with his testimony is very effective.

Actually after rereading the autopsy report I think I was just confused, not sure embolism came into play here. Anyway I think the testimony was very effective as far of the mechanism of what happened and depressed lung function leading to emergency circumstances.

Dr. Tobin really broke down some complex things, especially the dangers of prone restraint.

The Hennepin County Medical Examiner will testify tomorrow, which is interesting because it’s unusual not to start the medical experts with the medical examiner who conducted the autopsy. But after this morning/afternoon I can see why the prosecution started with Dr. Tobin.

The only question I had was that the medical examiner cited a pulmonary embolism and it didn’t seem like Dr. Tobin really explained that mechanism (it may be irrelevant but as someone who isn’t a doctor I wondered about the mechanism). I’ve seen material from other expert witnesses on prone restraint asphyxiation that explained some connection between emboli and prone restraint. So maybe that is coming. And the jury would be seeing this with a clean slate as far as analyzing the autopsy. So I think starting with his testimony is very effective.

nvm, they are back.

are they calling it a day after that document version control issue?

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Anonymous wrote:Powerful testimony from this doctor. Chilling.

Yes, very. I can’t get his testimony out of my mind. I’m sure it made a huge impact on jurors.

what was the most chilling part?

His explanation of the way a person recruits different muscle groups as they become more and more desperate in their attempts to breathe. There were still photos from the video that showed Floyd using his knuckles (although handcuffed behind his back) to try and push off the pavement and the tire of the squad car to lift up his right shoulder. He was attempting to get air into his right lung because Chauvin was kneeling on his left left lung, making it useless. By the time a person is using their arms and hands to assist in respiration, they have very little oxygen left. He estimated that Floyd had no oxygen left in his body 3 minutes before Chauvin finally got off of him.

I was impressed at his knowledgeability and professionalism during cross examination too.

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Anonymous wrote:Powerful testimony from this doctor. Chilling.

Yes, very. I can’t get his testimony out of my mind. I’m sure it made a huge impact on jurors.

what was the most chilling part?

His explanation of the way a person recruits different muscle groups as they become more and more desperate in their attempts to breathe. There were still photos from the video that showed Floyd using his knuckles (although handcuffed behind his back) to try and push off the pavement and the tire of the squad car to lift up his right shoulder. He was attempting to get air into his right lung because Chauvin was kneeling on his left left lung, making it useless. By the time a person is using their arms and hands to assist in respiration, they have very little oxygen left. He estimated that Floyd had no oxygen left in his body 3 minutes before Chauvin finally got off of him.

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Anonymous wrote:Powerful testimony from this doctor. Chilling.

Yes, very. I can’t get his testimony out of my mind. I’m sure it made a huge impact on jurors.

what was the most chilling part?