Anonymous
03/24/2021 10:17
Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because it violated the narrative: to get people to hate whites. It's all about hating whitey. Blaming whites for everything. Creating resentment. Thus, creating war. Which in turn creates mega profits for 24 hour news channels.
Looks to be white in both cases, both 21, both with beard.
His name is Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa. Doubt he's a white supremacist.
Middle easterners are considered caucasians.
And how many white supremacists think that? What do you think those white supremacists want to do with a guy like this and everyone else with a similar name?
Middle easterners can be white supremacists. Jason Reza Jorjani. He’s in the same league with Spencer and his friends.
"Can be" and "often are" are two different things. The leader of the Proud Boys is black.
White on white crime can’t be racial.
If race really is a social construct then a racial crime is whatever you say is a racial crime. Otherwise you are saying racial differences are real, which is often considered racist.
For many, it is a social construct when it is convenient (alleged police profiling) and real when it is convenient (higher impact of disease among blacks).
Whatever it is, there are mentally challenged people in every community. And every community has grocery stores. The CO grocery store could have been any grocery store anywhere in the US. So, stop feeding these people with victim blaming and victim shaming.
Or - more effectively - let's regulate guns a little more tightly so a schizo young man can't buy an offensive military-grade weapon and mow down innocent people only 6 days later
Mandatory 30-day waiting periods, training, licensing, mental health evaluations, and family-enabled red flag warnings would've saved the lives of 10 people.
But instead you suggest a farcical remedy - "[stop] victim blaming and victim shaming" - that does bupkis for innocent people.
What's an offensive military-grade weapon? Answer: something civilians cannot legally buy.
Anonymous
03/24/2021 10:16
Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because it violated the narrative: to get people to hate whites. It's all about hating whitey. Blaming whites for everything. Creating resentment. Thus, creating war. Which in turn creates mega profits for 24 hour news channels.
Looks to be white in both cases, both 21, both with beard.
His name is Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa. Doubt he's a white supremacist.
Middle easterners are considered caucasians.
And how many white supremacists think that? What do you think those white supremacists want to do with a guy like this and everyone else with a similar name?
Middle easterners can be white supremacists. Jason Reza Jorjani. He’s in the same league with Spencer and his friends.
"Can be" and "often are" are two different things. The leader of the Proud Boys is black.
White on white crime can’t be racial.
If race really is a social construct then a racial crime is whatever you say is a racial crime. Otherwise you are saying racial differences are real, which is often considered racist.
For many, it is a social construct when it is convenient (alleged police profiling) and real when it is convenient (higher impact of disease among blacks).
Whatever it is, there are mentally challenged people in every community. And every community has grocery stores. The CO grocery store could have been any grocery store anywhere in the US. So, stop feeding these people with victim blaming and victim shaming.
Or - more effectively - let's regulate guns a little more tightly so a schizo young man can't buy an offensive military-grade weapon and mow down innocent people only 6 days later
Mandatory 30-day waiting periods, training, licensing, mental health evaluations, and family-enabled red flag warnings would've saved the lives of 10 people.
But instead you suggest a farcical remedy - "[stop] victim blaming and victim shaming" - that does bupkis for innocent people.
Was the CO gun or rifle legally purchased? They are still investigation. Only law abiding people will follow the law. Criminals have their own ways.
Anonymous
03/24/2021 10:03
Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because it violated the narrative: to get people to hate whites. It's all about hating whitey. Blaming whites for everything. Creating resentment. Thus, creating war. Which in turn creates mega profits for 24 hour news channels.
Looks to be white in both cases, both 21, both with beard.
His name is Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa. Doubt he's a white supremacist.
Middle easterners are considered caucasians.
And how many white supremacists think that? What do you think those white supremacists want to do with a guy like this and everyone else with a similar name?
Middle easterners can be white supremacists. Jason Reza Jorjani. He’s in the same league with Spencer and his friends.
"Can be" and "often are" are two different things. The leader of the Proud Boys is black.
White on white crime can’t be racial.
If race really is a social construct then a racial crime is whatever you say is a racial crime. Otherwise you are saying racial differences are real, which is often considered racist.
For many, it is a social construct when it is convenient (alleged police profiling) and real when it is convenient (higher impact of disease among blacks).
Whatever it is, there are mentally challenged people in every community. And every community has grocery stores. The CO grocery store could have been any grocery store anywhere in the US. So, stop feeding these people with victim blaming and victim shaming.
Or - more effectively - let's regulate guns a little more tightly so a schizo young man can't buy an offensive military-grade weapon and mow down innocent people only 6 days later
Mandatory 30-day waiting periods, training, licensing, mental health evaluations, and family-enabled red flag warnings would've saved the lives of 10 people.
But instead you suggest a farcical remedy - "[stop] victim blaming and victim shaming" - that does bupkis for innocent people.
Anonymous
03/24/2021 09:54
Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because it violated the narrative: to get people to hate whites. It's all about hating whitey. Blaming whites for everything. Creating resentment. Thus, creating war. Which in turn creates mega profits for 24 hour news channels.
Looks to be white in both cases, both 21, both with beard.
His name is Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa. Doubt he's a white supremacist.
Middle easterners are considered caucasians.
And how many white supremacists think that? What do you think those white supremacists want to do with a guy like this and everyone else with a similar name?
Middle easterners can be white supremacists. Jason Reza Jorjani. He’s in the same league with Spencer and his friends.
"Can be" and "often are" are two different things. The leader of the Proud Boys is black.
White on white crime can’t be racial.
If race really is a social construct then a racial crime is whatever you say is a racial crime. Otherwise you are saying racial differences are real, which is often considered racist.
For many, it is a social construct when it is convenient (alleged police profiling) and real when it is convenient (higher impact of disease among blacks).
Whatever it is, there are mentally challenged people in every community. And every community has grocery stores. The CO grocery store could have been any grocery store anywhere in the US. So, stop feeding these people with victim blaming and victim shaming.
Anonymous
03/24/2021 09:45
Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because it violated the narrative: to get people to hate whites. It's all about hating whitey. Blaming whites for everything. Creating resentment. Thus, creating war. Which in turn creates mega profits for 24 hour news channels.
Looks to be white in both cases, both 21, both with beard.
His name is Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa. Doubt he's a white supremacist.
Middle easterners are considered caucasians.
And how many white supremacists think that? What do you think those white supremacists want to do with a guy like this and everyone else with a similar name?
Middle easterners can be white supremacists. Jason Reza Jorjani. He’s in the same league with Spencer and his friends.
"Can be" and "often are" are two different things. The leader of the Proud Boys is black.
White on white crime can’t be racial.
If race really is a social construct then a racial crime is whatever you say is a racial crime. Otherwise you are saying racial differences are real, which is often considered racist.
For many, it is a social construct when it is convenient (alleged police profiling) and real when it is convenient (higher impact of disease among blacks).
Anonymous
03/23/2021 23:18
Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?
The CO killer got his gun 6 days before his shooting spree. That would have been last Tuesday - just 1 day after Georgia. With people eager to minimizing Georgia victims, the timeline is very suspicious. All it took was one mentally deranged person for another tragedy.
Anonymous
03/23/2021 19:36
Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The GOP are going to perk up now and start saying how terrible this shooting is, now that its no longer a white guy.
Are the people who called the Atlanta shooting on this thread a hate crime going to call the Colorado shooting a hate crime?
The guy's family says he has been having paranoid delusions. I doubt hate crime will factor into this.
Wait. Now it's okay to talk about the perpetrator's mental health and this does not erase the voice of the victims?
It's as if you can't comprehend that unrelated crimes have different motivations and fact patterns.
Dumb or obtuse? I can't decide.
oh. you already know different motivations and fact patterns in these cases? That's amazing. I bet you marked those SAT bubbles in HS randomly and somehow scored 800.
DP. Good point. Earlier in this thread, regarding the Atlanta incident, someone claimed facts didn't matter in response to someone else who thought we needed more facts about motivations. I'm just noting again how a preferred narrative quickly dispenses with the needs for facts in one case and just as quickly asserts they are already known in another.
Anonymous
03/23/2021 18:04
Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The GOP are going to perk up now and start saying how terrible this shooting is, now that its no longer a white guy.
Are the people who called the Atlanta shooting on this thread a hate crime going to call the Colorado shooting a hate crime?
The guy's family says he has been having paranoid delusions. I doubt hate crime will factor into this.
Wait. Now it's okay to talk about the perpetrator's mental health and this does not erase the voice of the victims?
It's as if you can't comprehend that unrelated crimes have different motivations and fact patterns.
Dumb or obtuse? I can't decide.
oh. you already know different motivations and fact patterns in these cases? That's amazing. I bet you marked those SAT bubbles in HS randomly and somehow scored 800.
Anonymous
03/23/2021 16:55
Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The GOP are going to perk up now and start saying how terrible this shooting is, now that its no longer a white guy.
Are the people who called the Atlanta shooting on this thread a hate crime going to call the Colorado shooting a hate crime?
The guy's family says he has been having paranoid delusions. I doubt hate crime will factor into this.
Wait. Now it's okay to talk about the perpetrator's mental health and this does not erase the voice of the victims?
What was the race of the victims and was there any evidence of racial animosity from this guy?
Not my point. My point is that you've already bought a certain narrative hours into a shooting that is not yet well supported by any known facts. Previous shootings of all types have had a similar dynamic. The narrative changes, but not the ease with which people accept them and their anger at those who disagree, even slightly, with that narrative.
This is a very meta comment intended to cause you to think. I have no answers.
Anonymous
03/23/2021 16:49
Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The GOP are going to perk up now and start saying how terrible this shooting is, now that its no longer a white guy.
Are the people who called the Atlanta shooting on this thread a hate crime going to call the Colorado shooting a hate crime?
The guy's family says he has been having paranoid delusions. I doubt hate crime will factor into this.
Wait. Now it's okay to talk about the perpetrator's mental health and this does not erase the voice of the victims?
It's as if you can't comprehend that unrelated crimes have different motivations and fact patterns.
Dumb or obtuse? I can't decide.
No. Paying very close attention to the reasons I was given for why it was racist and ignorant to even discuss this issue a few days ago. I've already decided you are truly clueless because you don't seem aware of your own narrative and how it changes to fit your preconceived notions. You can insult me again if you want, I don't care. It's your narrative, not mine.
Anonymous
03/23/2021 16:42
Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The GOP are going to perk up now and start saying how terrible this shooting is, now that its no longer a white guy.
Are the people who called the Atlanta shooting on this thread a hate crime going to call the Colorado shooting a hate crime?
The guy's family says he has been having paranoid delusions. I doubt hate crime will factor into this.
And the guy actually posted in FB that he needs a girlfriend. So this might be a raging hormone issue.
Seems like the only thing missing now is that the sexual addiction treatment
Anonymous
03/23/2021 16:34
Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The GOP are going to perk up now and start saying how terrible this shooting is, now that its no longer a white guy.
Are the people who called the Atlanta shooting on this thread a hate crime going to call the Colorado shooting a hate crime?
The guy's family says he has been having paranoid delusions. I doubt hate crime will factor into this.
Wait. Now it's okay to talk about the perpetrator's mental health and this does not erase the voice of the victims?
It's as if you can't comprehend that unrelated crimes have different motivations and fact patterns.
Dumb or obtuse? I can't decide.
Anonymous
03/23/2021 16:30
Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The GOP are going to perk up now and start saying how terrible this shooting is, now that its no longer a white guy.
Are the people who called the Atlanta shooting on this thread a hate crime going to call the Colorado shooting a hate crime?
The guy's family says he has been having paranoid delusions. I doubt hate crime will factor into this.
And the guy actually posted in FB that he needs a girlfriend. So this might be a raging hormone issue.
Anonymous
03/23/2021 16:26
Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The GOP are going to perk up now and start saying how terrible this shooting is, now that its no longer a white guy.
Are the people who called the Atlanta shooting on this thread a hate crime going to call the Colorado shooting a hate crime?
The guy's family says he has been having paranoid delusions. I doubt hate crime will factor into this.
Wait. Now it's okay to talk about the perpetrator's mental health and this does not erase the voice of the victims?
What was the race of the victims and was there any evidence of racial animosity from this guy?
Anonymous
03/23/2021 15:57
Subject: Why won't people address the massage shootings as the mental health issue rather than racism?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The GOP are going to perk up now and start saying how terrible this shooting is, now that its no longer a white guy.
Are the people who called the Atlanta shooting on this thread a hate crime going to call the Colorado shooting a hate crime?
The guy's family says he has been having paranoid delusions. I doubt hate crime will factor into this.
Wait. Now it's okay to talk about the perpetrator's mental health and this does not erase the voice of the victims?