Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Your white entitlement is showing.
The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.
If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.
No, the issue here is that "transportation" covers a lot of different modes, including bikes. And as such, when we have limited space for transportation, then there needs to be enough space for those different modes to use that space in a rational and safe manner. Dedicating all of that space to cars makes it harder for buses, pedestrians, scooters and bikes. Since buses carry more people than cars, they should be prioritized. Since neither pedestrians nor cyclists generate exhaust fumes or much wear and tear, they should be prioritized.
Sorry, the single occupancy vehicle will sill have some space, but not as much as it did in the 1950's. It just isn't rational or efficient. The Europeans and Asians learned this a few decades ago. It is about time the Americans caught on.
The craziest thing about all of this is that hardly anyone in DC even rides bikes. How many people ride their bicycles ever day? 250? 500? Let's be extremely generous and call it 1,000. There are 350,000 cars registered in DC. There's surely tens of thousands more than aren't registered. Roads should be reserved for cars since that's how the overwhelmingly majority of people in Washington choose to travel.
In 2018 about 5% of DC commuters were bike commuters.
Your own eyes will tell you that's a big overestimate.
Seems about accurate to me on average.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Your white entitlement is showing.
The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.
If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.
No, the issue here is that "transportation" covers a lot of different modes, including bikes. And as such, when we have limited space for transportation, then there needs to be enough space for those different modes to use that space in a rational and safe manner. Dedicating all of that space to cars makes it harder for buses, pedestrians, scooters and bikes. Since buses carry more people than cars, they should be prioritized. Since neither pedestrians nor cyclists generate exhaust fumes or much wear and tear, they should be prioritized.
Sorry, the single occupancy vehicle will sill have some space, but not as much as it did in the 1950's. It just isn't rational or efficient. The Europeans and Asians learned this a few decades ago. It is about time the Americans caught on.
The craziest thing about all of this is that hardly anyone in DC even rides bikes. How many people ride their bicycles ever day? 250? 500? Let's be extremely generous and call it 1,000. There are 350,000 cars registered in DC. There's surely tens of thousands more than aren't registered. Roads should be reserved for cars since that's how the overwhelmingly majority of people in Washington choose to travel.
In 2018 about 5% of DC commuters were bike commuters.
Your own eyes will tell you that's a big overestimate.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Your white entitlement is showing.
The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.
If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.
No, the issue here is that "transportation" covers a lot of different modes, including bikes. And as such, when we have limited space for transportation, then there needs to be enough space for those different modes to use that space in a rational and safe manner. Dedicating all of that space to cars makes it harder for buses, pedestrians, scooters and bikes. Since buses carry more people than cars, they should be prioritized. Since neither pedestrians nor cyclists generate exhaust fumes or much wear and tear, they should be prioritized.
Sorry, the single occupancy vehicle will sill have some space, but not as much as it did in the 1950's. It just isn't rational or efficient. The Europeans and Asians learned this a few decades ago. It is about time the Americans caught on.
The craziest thing about all of this is that hardly anyone in DC even rides bikes. How many people ride their bicycles ever day? 250? 500? Let's be extremely generous and call it 1,000. There are 350,000 cars registered in DC. There's surely tens of thousands more than aren't registered. Roads should be reserved for cars since that's how the overwhelmingly majority of people in Washington choose to travel.
In 2018 about 5% of DC commuters were bike commuters.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You sound young, naive and rather self-centered.
It's like you don't have any appreciation at all for the range of other people's experiences and circumstances.
Do you understand that many people are too old to ride a bike? Or that they have newborns? Or that they're disabled? Or that they're young children? Or that they aren't strong enough to ride a bike? Or that some people can't afford to live anywhere near where they work, or where they otherwise need to go? Or that some people are so busy during the day that they don't have a spare minute, and they aren't going to fritter away their precious time on a bike when a car will get them where they need to be in a fraction of the time? Or that most people think the idea of riding a bike on DC streets is practically suicidal?
Also, nobody gives a f*ck about electric bikes.
DP...people of all ages ride bikes. People with babies and young kids ride bikes with trailers, or cargo bikes, where people can load up two weeks of groceries without issue. Of course people who are less-abled should be able to drive and park where there are designated handicapped spaces. No one is suggesting otherwise. But somehow in other parts of the world, in large, spread out metropolitan areas, people are able to exist with bikes as their primary source of transportation. Are you suggesting Americans are too weak or lazy to do the same?
And in terms of affording to live close to where they work - the same people who oppose bike lanes also oppose new housing, forcing out into the hinterlands. Can't have it both ways.
DP. You have actually reinforced the PPs point that you are extremely self-centered, arrogant and obnoxious.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Your white entitlement is showing.
The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.
If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.
No, the issue here is that "transportation" covers a lot of different modes, including bikes. And as such, when we have limited space for transportation, then there needs to be enough space for those different modes to use that space in a rational and safe manner. Dedicating all of that space to cars makes it harder for buses, pedestrians, scooters and bikes. Since buses carry more people than cars, they should be prioritized. Since neither pedestrians nor cyclists generate exhaust fumes or much wear and tear, they should be prioritized.
Sorry, the single occupancy vehicle will sill have some space, but not as much as it did in the 1950's. It just isn't rational or efficient. The Europeans and Asians learned this a few decades ago. It is about time the Americans caught on.
The craziest thing about all of this is that hardly anyone in DC even rides bikes. How many people ride their bicycles ever day? 250? 500? Let's be extremely generous and call it 1,000. There are 350,000 cars registered in DC. There's surely tens of thousands more than aren't registered. Roads should be reserved for cars since that's how the overwhelmingly majority of people in Washington choose to travel.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You sound young, naive and rather self-centered.
It's like you don't have any appreciation at all for the range of other people's experiences and circumstances.
Do you understand that many people are too old to ride a bike? Or that they have newborns? Or that they're disabled? Or that they're young children? Or that they aren't strong enough to ride a bike? Or that some people can't afford to live anywhere near where they work, or where they otherwise need to go? Or that some people are so busy during the day that they don't have a spare minute, and they aren't going to fritter away their precious time on a bike when a car will get them where they need to be in a fraction of the time? Or that most people think the idea of riding a bike on DC streets is practically suicidal?
Also, nobody gives a f*ck about electric bikes.
DP...people of all ages ride bikes. People with babies and young kids ride bikes with trailers, or cargo bikes, where people can load up two weeks of groceries without issue. Of course people who are less-abled should be able to drive and park where there are designated handicapped spaces. No one is suggesting otherwise. But somehow in other parts of the world, in large, spread out metropolitan areas, people are able to exist with bikes as their primary source of transportation. Are you suggesting Americans are too weak or lazy to do the same?
And in terms of affording to live close to where they work - the same people who oppose bike lanes also oppose new housing, forcing out into the hinterlands. Can't have it both ways.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are 10's of thousands of daily bike commuters in DC, and that says nothing of the hundreds of thousands of recreational riders.
There are most certainly NOT “hundreds of thousands of recreational riders” in DC, you twitt. DC has 650,000 people. Do you honestly believe half of them are recreational cyclists?
Anonymous wrote:There are 10's of thousands of daily bike commuters in DC, and that says nothing of the hundreds of thousands of recreational riders.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Your white entitlement is showing.
The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.
If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.
+1
It is only dangerous because 1) our infrastructure makes it dangerous and 2) entitled drivers threaten cyclists by hitting them and/or driving aggressively around them.
This just seems delusional. Also, I love how, when something bad happens to bicyclists, it's ALWAYS someone else's fault. The answer is never: That person was doing something really stupid.
I think that is obvious, but you *clearly* don’t go out drinking with people who bike in DC.
I barely know anyone who bikes in DC, but I don't hang out with white twentysomethings, which probably explains that.
I guess I started in my twenties, but now I’m forty. And I have no problem criticizing fellow bicyclists for doing stupid stuff. The big difference: when they do stupid stuff they put themselves at risk. When you do something stupid in your car you put everyone at risk. And believe me, I see all the stupid stuff you all are doing while driving.
It's no secret that bicyclists are quick to criticize people in cars. But, I mean, do you even stop at stop signs? Bicyclists seem to believe traffic rules are for other people.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Disagree. The bike lanes are well used, and the more there are, the safer novice cyclists feel to use them. It becomes a domino effect. Go look at pictures of Amsterdam from the early 1970's and compare them to today.
If you build it, they will come.
Most people don't ride bicycles because, aside from being completely impractical for most, it is also *extremely* dangerous.
If only there were safe places to ride, marked with paint, separated by concrete and without 2000 pound cars in them. Hmmm, let me think on that.
Bicyclists in DC are a lot like the NRA. They are an extreme minority who uses our awful government, with its attentiveness to special interest groups, to foist their unpopular opinions on everyone else. So glad we can dedicate so many resources to the 40 people in DC who ride bikes every day.
+1
And then when bicyclists DO get their bike lanes, they’re clogging up Chain Bridge Rd, 123, and 14th St instead of using the bike lanes they scream about.
The cyclists are taxpayer who have every right to use the road as you do. In fact, their bikes do not wear down the asphalt as much as your car does. They are not taking "your" parking spot and they are not spewing CO2 into the air.
You should be thanking their lycra a$$es.
Cyclists don't actually have the same right to the roads. But, hey, good job with your white entitlement. (Do you think bicyclists have the same right to ride on the Beltway or I-95?)
At some point, it should come down to numbers. Hardly anyone in DC rides bikes. This sometimes seems not that different from setting up special protected lanes reserved only for people on roller skates.
Why do you think DC bicyclists are generally white? You seem like you’re unable to see the vast majority of people riding bikes in DC. Try opening your eyes while driving (and put down your phone).
Ha. Tell me you're white without telling me you're white. Bike lanes are the ultimate entitled white people issue.
And dying on unsafe streets is what happens outside of white neighborhoods with bike lanes. The data is available if you care. Why shouldn’t everyone have safe bike infrastructure?
Your white entitlement is showing.
The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.
If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.
+1
Yeah, just buy a car and pay for parking! Says the person criticizing others for white entitlement.![]()
Just look at the numbers. This is how the vast majority of Washingtonians choose to travel. I'm sorry you're in such a tiny minority.
60% isn’t a vast majority. And it’s a mode that hogs space, ruins the environment, kills and maims people, and keeps up obesity rates. So why wouldn’t you want to change that?
Bikes are not a practical option for most people, which is why so few people ride them.
1. That depends on the space given for them. People pick up biking more as there’s safe space for it.
2. Electric bikes are getting more and more affordable. Hope you like eating your words.
You sound young, naive and rather self-centered.
It's like you don't have any appreciation at all for the range of other people's experiences and circumstances.
Do you understand that many people are too old to ride a bike? Or that they have newborns? Or that they're disabled? Or that they're young children? Or that they aren't strong enough to ride a bike? Or that some people can't afford to live anywhere near where they work, or where they otherwise need to go? Or that some people are so busy during the day that they don't have a spare minute, and they aren't going to fritter away their precious time on a bike when a car will get them where they need to be in a fraction of the time? Or that most people think the idea of riding a bike on DC streets is practically suicidal?
Also, nobody gives a f*ck about electric bikes.
Do you understand that there are people in their 70s and 80s who still bike? Not so much in DC because the infrastructure sucks.
Do you understand that disabled people bike? My neighbor walks poorly and with a cane but will hop on his bike to get around. Have you ever seen the joy seniors have when someone takes them out/around the town in a bike taxi?
Do you understand that people with babies bike? I bike with my kids in DC.
I’d love to talk about more and affordable housing so that more people of varying income levels can live in DC. Public housing too. Confining people with low incomes to the exurbs in cars and commutes they can’t afford is a pretty bad answer.
You’re really small-minded and would do well to cool down and open your mind to other approaches.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Your white entitlement is showing.
The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.
If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.
+1
It is only dangerous because 1) our infrastructure makes it dangerous and 2) entitled drivers threaten cyclists by hitting them and/or driving aggressively around them.
This just seems delusional. Also, I love how, when something bad happens to bicyclists, it's ALWAYS someone else's fault. The answer is never: That person was doing something really stupid.
I think that is obvious, but you *clearly* don’t go out drinking with people who bike in DC.
I barely know anyone who bikes in DC, but I don't hang out with white twentysomethings, which probably explains that.
I guess I started in my twenties, but now I’m forty. And I have no problem criticizing fellow bicyclists for doing stupid stuff. The big difference: when they do stupid stuff they put themselves at risk. When you do something stupid in your car you put everyone at risk. And believe me, I see all the stupid stuff you all are doing while driving.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Disagree. The bike lanes are well used, and the more there are, the safer novice cyclists feel to use them. It becomes a domino effect. Go look at pictures of Amsterdam from the early 1970's and compare them to today.
If you build it, they will come.
Most people don't ride bicycles because, aside from being completely impractical for most, it is also *extremely* dangerous.
If only there were safe places to ride, marked with paint, separated by concrete and without 2000 pound cars in them. Hmmm, let me think on that.
Bicyclists in DC are a lot like the NRA. They are an extreme minority who uses our awful government, with its attentiveness to special interest groups, to foist their unpopular opinions on everyone else. So glad we can dedicate so many resources to the 40 people in DC who ride bikes every day.
+1
And then when bicyclists DO get their bike lanes, they’re clogging up Chain Bridge Rd, 123, and 14th St instead of using the bike lanes they scream about.
The cyclists are taxpayer who have every right to use the road as you do. In fact, their bikes do not wear down the asphalt as much as your car does. They are not taking "your" parking spot and they are not spewing CO2 into the air.
You should be thanking their lycra a$$es.
Cyclists don't actually have the same right to the roads. But, hey, good job with your white entitlement. (Do you think bicyclists have the same right to ride on the Beltway or I-95?)
At some point, it should come down to numbers. Hardly anyone in DC rides bikes. This sometimes seems not that different from setting up special protected lanes reserved only for people on roller skates.
Why do you think DC bicyclists are generally white? You seem like you’re unable to see the vast majority of people riding bikes in DC. Try opening your eyes while driving (and put down your phone).
Ha. Tell me you're white without telling me you're white. Bike lanes are the ultimate entitled white people issue.
And dying on unsafe streets is what happens outside of white neighborhoods with bike lanes. The data is available if you care. Why shouldn’t everyone have safe bike infrastructure?
Your white entitlement is showing.
The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.
If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.
+1
Yeah, just buy a car and pay for parking! Says the person criticizing others for white entitlement.![]()
Just look at the numbers. This is how the vast majority of Washingtonians choose to travel. I'm sorry you're in such a tiny minority.
60% isn’t a vast majority. And it’s a mode that hogs space, ruins the environment, kills and maims people, and keeps up obesity rates. So why wouldn’t you want to change that?
Bikes are not a practical option for most people, which is why so few people ride them.
1. That depends on the space given for them. People pick up biking more as there’s safe space for it.
2. Electric bikes are getting more and more affordable. Hope you like eating your words.
You sound young, naive and rather self-centered.
It's like you don't have any appreciation at all for the range of other people's experiences and circumstances.
Do you understand that many people are too old to ride a bike? Or that they have newborns? Or that they're disabled? Or that they're young children? Or that they aren't strong enough to ride a bike? Or that some people can't afford to live anywhere near where they work, or where they otherwise need to go? Or that some people are so busy during the day that they don't have a spare minute, and they aren't going to fritter away their precious time on a bike when a car will get them where they need to be in a fraction of the time? Or that most people think the idea of riding a bike on DC streets is practically suicidal?
Also, nobody gives a f*ck about electric bikes.
Anonymous wrote:
You sound young, naive and rather self-centered.
It's like you don't have any appreciation at all for the range of other people's experiences and circumstances.
Do you understand that many people are too old to ride a bike? Or that they have newborns? Or that they're disabled? Or that they're young children? Or that they aren't strong enough to ride a bike? Or that some people can't afford to live anywhere near where they work, or where they otherwise need to go? Or that some people are so busy during the day that they don't have a spare minute, and they aren't going to fritter away their precious time on a bike when a car will get them where they need to be in a fraction of the time? Or that most people think the idea of riding a bike on DC streets is practically suicidal?
Also, nobody gives a f*ck about electric bikes.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Disagree. The bike lanes are well used, and the more there are, the safer novice cyclists feel to use them. It becomes a domino effect. Go look at pictures of Amsterdam from the early 1970's and compare them to today.
If you build it, they will come.
Most people don't ride bicycles because, aside from being completely impractical for most, it is also *extremely* dangerous.
If only there were safe places to ride, marked with paint, separated by concrete and without 2000 pound cars in them. Hmmm, let me think on that.
Bicyclists in DC are a lot like the NRA. They are an extreme minority who uses our awful government, with its attentiveness to special interest groups, to foist their unpopular opinions on everyone else. So glad we can dedicate so many resources to the 40 people in DC who ride bikes every day.
+1
And then when bicyclists DO get their bike lanes, they’re clogging up Chain Bridge Rd, 123, and 14th St instead of using the bike lanes they scream about.
The cyclists are taxpayer who have every right to use the road as you do. In fact, their bikes do not wear down the asphalt as much as your car does. They are not taking "your" parking spot and they are not spewing CO2 into the air.
You should be thanking their lycra a$$es.
Cyclists don't actually have the same right to the roads. But, hey, good job with your white entitlement. (Do you think bicyclists have the same right to ride on the Beltway or I-95?)
At some point, it should come down to numbers. Hardly anyone in DC rides bikes. This sometimes seems not that different from setting up special protected lanes reserved only for people on roller skates.
Why do you think DC bicyclists are generally white? You seem like you’re unable to see the vast majority of people riding bikes in DC. Try opening your eyes while driving (and put down your phone).
Ha. Tell me you're white without telling me you're white. Bike lanes are the ultimate entitled white people issue.
And dying on unsafe streets is what happens outside of white neighborhoods with bike lanes. The data is available if you care. Why shouldn’t everyone have safe bike infrastructure?
Your white entitlement is showing.
The issue here is that riding a bike on DC streets is extremely dangerous and it's not up to everyone else to ensure that this extremely dangerous thing you and a tiny number of your friends want to do doesn't get you killed.
If you dont want brain damage, don't become a boxer. And if you don't want to become road kill, stay off DC streets.
+1
Yeah, just buy a car and pay for parking! Says the person criticizing others for white entitlement.![]()
Just look at the numbers. This is how the vast majority of Washingtonians choose to travel. I'm sorry you're in such a tiny minority.
60% isn’t a vast majority. And it’s a mode that hogs space, ruins the environment, kills and maims people, and keeps up obesity rates. So why wouldn’t you want to change that?
Bikes are not a practical option for most people, which is why so few people ride them.
1. That depends on the space given for them. People pick up biking more as there’s safe space for it.
2. Electric bikes are getting more and more affordable. Hope you like eating your words.