Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 21:09     Subject: The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the basis for people saying Trump is broke? Maybe he is but nothing about paying $750 in taxes says this. By most standards, DH and I are quite wealthy but most years we pay very little, if any, in taxes.


When you owe more than you are worth, you are broke. When you pay your daughter, who is an officer in your company, as a consultant, that is illegal. There is so much here is it nuts, and rubes sit here and poo poo it as if it is no biggie.

Fine screw it, I won't pay any more taxes. Why should I? Paying taxes is for suckers and losers.


Me neither. Screw funding the military.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 21:09     Subject: The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs

Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 21:07     Subject: The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs

Anonymous wrote:This is what will make the military turn on Trump. Even your lowliest enlisted grunt pays more in taxes in a few months of service.

They will be chomping at the bit to frog March this fraud out of the White House.



From your lips...
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 21:06     Subject: The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine if Obama had only paid $750. Fox and all of its idiot viewers would have flipped out. Everyone should go check out what they are reporting right now.

There’s always a tweet.


Lovely. Just lovely.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 21:05     Subject: Re:The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs

The NYTs framed this perfectly and established the narrative: $750.

It’s a relatable number because even people who make minimum wage pay more than this in income taxes. It’s burned into the national psyche and is such an easy to understand talking point.

As we see, Republicans lawyers and accountants will be trotted out to try to explain it away. But for the average voter? Their eyes glaze over with the swamp-talk and just remember “750 dollars.”

Trump is now playing defense; he’s terrible at defense. It’s when he is at his weakest and most pathetic because he is a control freak.

$750. It will be his Romney “takers” moment.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 21:04     Subject: The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs

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Anonymous wrote:Lol, this is worse than speculation. They don't even show you the document they have, just claim to have the documents. And of course, an anonymous source.


Exactly. It amazes me how low the NYT has fallen.


Then demand the "real" taxes from the president to demonstrate that this is fake news. Otherwise, there is no way the NY Times would open itself up to the liability for such an article if it weren't true.


I'm sure he'll be suing the NYT for libel any minute now...


No, he won't. Why? He'll open himself up to Discovery and the NYT's attorneys will gain access to his financial documents and tax returns. Why? Because truth is an absolute defene to libel.


Correct, this is just a made up story to bait him into suing


Yes, this is definitely how newspapers work.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 21:03     Subject: The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs

Anonymous wrote:Just here to point out that depreciation doesn't last forever.


The accountant on this thread has assured me that it does.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 21:03     Subject: Re:The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not surprised, he's always been a showman.

But did he actually break any laws over the taxes? I thought people were expecting tax fraud? So far there isn't any that I can tell.

Did you was the whole article?


Yes. And there's nothing to show he broke laws.

I thought the tax returns were supposed to show stuff that he'd go to prison for. Maybe I was wrong. But so far nothing we've seen shows Trump breaking laws. He did file his returns, he didn't commit tax fraud.




Time to wake up. Actually I feel sorry for you.


I don't think you read the article. The consulting fees paid to Ivanka, a Trump employee, were made to reduce and deflate his income? Tax fraud. Falsely declaring a private residence as a business investment? Tax fraud. There's more but those are some easy examples that jumped out. Also the nearly $79 million tax refund seems to have been based on lies. Tax fraud.


Bingo. There’s a whole lot of tax evasion (not avoidance) in those returns. And those clutching their pearls that they do the same with their real estate investments aren’t actually reading the news article.


So what’s going to happen then? Happy October...
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 21:02     Subject: The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs

Just here to point out that depreciation doesn't last forever.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 21:02     Subject: Re:The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs

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Anonymous wrote:After reading these 22 pages of comments, I'm convinced of two things;

1. The idiocy on displayed here by those who hate Trump is real
2. Trump will win in 5 weeks despite attempts by many.


You know, if Trump had released his tax returns as a candidate, when he was supposed to, we idiots wouldn't be displaying our idiocy right now.

The story would be over. Or ... Trump would be in jail right now...


And I’m convinced that,
1) You don’t know how to spell.
2) You were already convinced Drumpf will win in five weeks before you began reading the thread.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 21:02     Subject: The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol, this is worse than speculation. They don't even show you the document they have, just claim to have the documents. And of course, an anonymous source.


Exactly. It amazes me how low the NYT has fallen.


Then demand the "real" taxes from the president to demonstrate that this is fake news. Otherwise, there is no way the NY Times would open itself up to the liability for such an article if it weren't true.


I'm sure he'll be suing the NYT for libel any minute now...


No, he won't. Why? He'll open himself up to Discovery and the NYT's attorneys will gain access to his financial documents and tax returns. Why? Because truth is an absolute defene to libel.


Correct, this is just a made up story to bait him into suing


Nope. It's legit. Not made up.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 21:01     Subject: The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs

Once a fraud, always a fraud.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 21:01     Subject: The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol, this is worse than speculation. They don't even show you the document they have, just claim to have the documents. And of course, an anonymous source.


Exactly. It amazes me how low the NYT has fallen.


Then demand the "real" taxes from the president to demonstrate that this is fake news. Otherwise, there is no way the NY Times would open itself up to the liability for such an article if it weren't true.


I'm sure he'll be suing the NYT for libel any minute now...


No, he won't. Why? He'll open himself up to Discovery and the NYT's attorneys will gain access to his financial documents and tax returns. Why? Because truth is an absolute defene to libel.


Correct, this is just a made up story to bait him into suing
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 21:00     Subject: Re:The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs

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Anonymous wrote:Didn't we all already know he was a scam artist and not nearly as rich as he claimed? So really, this is the story of a rich guy dodging taxes while us saps in the middle class pay. What a shocker. Next you're going to tell me Bill Gates isn't a humanitarian, he's actually using his foundation and giving pledge "promise" to duck taxes and hoard over $100 billion dollars.


No, the story is that our President is beholden to whomever he owes over 400 million dollars.


I have clients who owe many, many millions of dollars, but those loans are secured by assets that are worth far more. Again, there may be nothing to see here.


Ok, but those assets don't justify a security clearance. And, what could if assets are foreign policy? The people deserve to know.
Anonymous
Post 09/27/2020 21:00     Subject: Re:The BIG ONE: 20 years of Trump taxes obtained by NYTs

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm not surprised, he's always been a showman.

But did he actually break any laws over the taxes? I thought people were expecting tax fraud? So far there isn't any that I can tell.

Did you was the whole article?


Yes. And there's nothing to show he broke laws.

I thought the tax returns were supposed to show stuff that he'd go to prison for. Maybe I was wrong. But so far nothing we've seen shows Trump breaking laws. He did file his returns, he didn't commit tax fraud.




Time to wake up. Actually I feel sorry for you.


I don't think you read the article. The consulting fees paid to Ivanka, a Trump employee, were made to reduce and deflate his income? Tax fraud. Falsely declaring a private residence as a business investment? Tax fraud. There's more but those are some easy examples that jumped out. Also the nearly $79 million tax refund seems to have been based on lies. Tax fraud.


Bingo. There’s a whole lot of tax evasion (not avoidance) in those returns. And those clutching their pearls that they do the same with their real estate investments aren’t actually reading the news article.