Anonymous
05/12/2023 15:09
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
She won the case.
Donald Trump is and always has been a joke, as are every one of his voters. The only new voters he’s acquiring are the brainwashed and brain damaged.
This is the "deplorables" argument, and guess what, Hillary lost using that terrible strategy. Hillary lost because of a multi-pronged attack on democracy. CNN continues it to this day. “Both sides”ers continue it. And if anyone thought that quote was about them, that they were in that basket, the “some of his followers,” that’s them telling on themselves.
His voters are in pain, many of them. They feel wronged. Their nice middle-class jobs went to China, they voted for that, repeatedly, literally and with their addictive shopping and they are left working three crappy jobs and barely making ends meet. Also, statistically you’re wrong. Trump voters were better off than Democratic voters. And I’m not sure why they’d vote for the side that thinks we should abolish minimum wage and every worker protection Their savior, That Orange Blob, comes along and validates their feelings. Which feelings? Oh, that’s right, the nativist, racist, uppity women feelings. That’s really all he talked about; being a bully Those foreigners took their jobs, those liberals want to take their guns, which protect them from those Black criminals who are coming to get them, etc. etc. These are feelings, not facts, but the O.B. appeals to their emotions, not to their reasonable minds. And in a fight between emotion and reason, emotion will win in people who are not educated or disciplined enough to tame their emotions in the face of rational facts.
I don't think the O.B. is a joke. He's very dangerous. People like you who refuse to acknowledge that his voters have legitimate grievances based, perhaps, on feelings, not facts, are going to drive away the voters who might vote for Biden if they feel the Democrats are listening to them and hear their problems, even if the Democrats don't agree with their views. People need to feel heard, not called deplorable. They are not deplorable, they are weak. Demagogues like the O.B. give these people hope. They want to believe his lies, and he's extraordinarily successful at connecting with these people. Do not underestimate him. He and his voters are extremely dangerous to democracy.
For someone who’s obviously pretty liberal you are pretty well in the right wing propaganda tank.
Anonymous
05/12/2023 14:21
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:
She won the case.
Donald Trump is and always has been a joke, as are every one of his voters. The only new voters he’s acquiring are the brainwashed and brain damaged.
This is the "deplorables" argument, and guess what, Hillary lost using that terrible strategy.
His voters are in pain, many of them. They feel wronged. Their nice middle-class jobs went to China, and they are left working three crappy jobs and barely making ends meet. Their savior, That Orange Blob, comes along and validates their feelings. Those foreigners took their jobs, those liberals want to take their guns, which protect them from those Black criminals who are coming to get them, etc. etc. These are feelings, not facts, but the O.B. appeals to their emotions, not to their reasonable minds. And in a fight between emotion and reason, emotion will win in people who are not educated or disciplined enough to tame their emotions in the face of rational facts.
I don't think the O.B. is a joke. He's very dangerous. People like you who refuse to acknowledge that his voters have legitimate grievances based, perhaps, on feelings, not facts, are going to drive away the voters who might vote for Biden if they feel the Democrats are listening to them and hear their problems, even if the Democrats don't agree with their views. People need to feel heard, not called deplorable. They are not deplorable, they are weak. Demagogues like the O.B. give these people hope. They want to believe his lies, and he's extraordinarily successful at connecting with these people. Do not underestimate him. He and his voters are extremely dangerous to democracy.
Anonymous
05/12/2023 14:14
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
plus a billion. no, a trillion. i want to see that man in an orange jumpsuit behind bars
Anonymous
05/12/2023 11:37
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Joke's on you, bud.
Anonymous
05/12/2023 11:23
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
She won the case.
Donald Trump is and always has been a joke, as are every one of his voters. The only new voters he’s acquiring are the brainwashed and brain damaged.
Not to be too particular, but he was not found liable for rape. Even a New York jury didn't believe her rape claim. He was found liable for "sexual abuse." So as much as she won part of the case, she lost on the part that people are running with--rape.
I’ve served as a juror in both criminal and civil cases. You cannot infer what the jury believes. You can only infer that there was not unanimous agreement that the burden of proof was met on that particular charge. When I was a juror in a criminal trial, every single one of us believed that the defendant was guilty, but we followed the judge’s instructions and disregarded improper testimony and found the defendant not guilty because the arresting officer, a rookie making his first solo arrest, screwed up so badly procedurally that the prosecution couldn’t meet the burden of proof beyond reasonable doubt. There may very well be some jurors who believe Trump raped Carroll, but there are negotiations and compromises to reach unanimous verdicts.
Anonymous
05/12/2023 10:15
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Deplorables are amazing. Didn’t see “it’s impossible for anyone to ever have been sexually assaulted in a department store dressing room” as something that any person would ever claim.
+1
A very true statement.
Anonymous
Anonymous
05/12/2023 09:40
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
She won the case.
Donald Trump is and always has been a joke, as are every one of his voters. The only new voters he’s acquiring are the brainwashed and brain damaged.
Not to be too particular, but he was not found liable for rape. Even a New York jury didn't believe her rape claim. He was found liable for "sexual abuse." So as much as she won part of the case, she lost on the part that people are running with--rape.
I am not a lawyer but it has been noted many times that in New York the legal definition of rape is penile penetration. He penetrated her with him grubby little fingers and he was guilty of sexual battery.
In my humble opinion, however, if a man penetrated me with his fingers, I would call it rape as would most women.
+1 he raped her. and we know he's done it to other women, too.
Anonymous
05/12/2023 09:14
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
She won the case.
Donald Trump is and always has been a joke, as are every one of his voters. The only new voters he’s acquiring are the brainwashed and brain damaged.
Not to be too particular, but he was not found liable for rape. Even a New York jury didn't believe her rape claim. He was found liable for "sexual abuse." So as much as she won part of the case, she lost on the part that people are running with--rape.
I am not a lawyer but it has been noted many times that in New York the legal definition of rape is penile penetration. He penetrated her with him grubby little fingers and he was guilty of sexual battery.
In my humble opinion, however, if a man penetrated me with his fingers, I would call it rape as would most women.
Anonymous
05/12/2023 07:15
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous wrote:
She won the case.
Donald Trump is and always has been a joke, as are every one of his voters. The only new voters he’s acquiring are the brainwashed and brain damaged.
Not to be too particular, but he was not found liable for rape. Even a New York jury didn't believe her rape claim. He was found liable for "sexual abuse." So as much as she won part of the case, she lost on the part that people are running with--rape.
Anonymous
05/12/2023 06:42
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
She won the case.
Donald Trump is and always has been a joke, as are every one of his voters. The only new voters he’s acquiring are the brainwashed and brain damaged.
Anonymous
05/11/2023 23:06
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Was that picture where Trump identified as Marla Maples, from around the same time that Carroll alleged this happened?
And isn't it pretty likely Trump would know the editors of all the magazines?
And isn't it pretty likely Trump would know the editors of all the magazines?
Anonymous
05/11/2023 21:46
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Anonymous
05/11/2023 17:50
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle
Trump has the pro-rape vote locked down.
Anonymous
05/11/2023 17:42
Subject: E. Jean Carroll, columnist who says Donald Trump raped her, fired from Elle