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Anonymous wrote:I and no person in my family studied at Harvard. However, I have appreciated that many Harvard grads whom I have met rarely brag. When folks ask where they went to school, Harvard grads often reply “a school in Cambridge.”. Also, they are often kind and willing to consider different points of view.

On the other hand, some Harvard recent grads occasionally appear to suffer from delusions of grandeur and demand such perks as business class tickets for entry type positions. It does not go down well for anyone from wherever they graduated from to demand status and payment that is not commensurate with work provided. Whatever school you go to, you need to prove your mettle through making valuable contributions and simply being a good person.

Hopefully, there is a good fit for everyone out there and hopefully Young people will find ways to cultivate their unique gifts to contribute the maximum good to society and at the same time to be true to themselves.

That is 1,000,000x more obnoxious and less humble than just saying "Harvard."

Wtf.? Why would I just say “Harvard”? As clearly stated, I have not attended there, nor has anyone in my family. Many Harvard grads seem modest and competent, while some others do not. Harvard is not the only place where young people can find their way and flourish. What is complicated, in any way,, about that view?

Anonymous wrote:Not you. The Harvard grads who demur instead of just saying they went to Harvard. It’s insulting to the person who asked, basically assuming they’re going to feel inferior, or something. It’s not humble at all. It’s assuming so much superiority that the other person in the conversation can’t handle the knowledge.

Anonymous wrote:It means it’s just like the 80s when some black students joined historically black frats and sorority’s city chapters and otherwise there was no Greek presence on campus. It means that there are now final clubs as there had been prior to late 90s and 2000s.

A few but not all final clubs are coed to avoid the sanctions. But, as a result of the sanctions, there are no women’s final clubs or sororities active on campus.

Mostly it means that the sanction rule failed and caused the final club class ( rich, largely legacy) at Harvard to become more insular.

Also you have never been to Harvard even for a day if you think it has a frat culture.

Anonymous wrote:Yes we can all read but Harvard did not have Greeks until recently so anyone talking about Hugh school is fake. There were only final clubs and they all disbanded when the single sex rule took effect. You should at least google current info. And google completely. There are no active Greek organizations. There are final clubs.

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Anonymous wrote:I and no person in my family studied at Harvard. However, I have appreciated that many Harvard grads whom I have met rarely brag. When folks ask where they went to school, Harvard grads often reply “a school in Cambridge.”. Also, they are often kind and willing to consider different points of view.

On the other hand, some Harvard recent grads occasionally appear to suffer from delusions of grandeur and demand such perks as business class tickets for entry type positions. It does not go down well for anyone from wherever they graduated from to demand status and payment that is not commensurate with work provided. Whatever school you go to, you need to prove your mettle through making valuable contributions and simply being a good person.

Hopefully, there is a good fit for everyone out there and hopefully Young people will find ways to cultivate their unique gifts to contribute the maximum good to society and at the same time to be true to themselves.

That is 1,000,000x more obnoxious and less humble than just saying "Harvard."

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Anonymous wrote:Times World Rankings

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

This has more to do with graduate research.

And Michigan comes out ahead once again.

As well it should, it spends over a half a billion of your tuition dollars on research every year. Funny they don't put that in brochures.

I'm surprised that this is such a bugaboo for you. Tons of undergraduate and graduate students get to participate in those research projects. That is valuable experience.

https://lsa.umich.edu/urop/students.html

This is at the same time the problem for the undergraduates. Public schools like Michigan, UC-Berkeley or UIUC spend a large proportion of their resources on graduate programs and research. Professors only care about their research and do not give a damn to undergraduate teaching because their career and fame only depend on their research. This is why you find you as an undergrad student would have a hard time finding opportunity to interact with professors in those schools. Many courses are not taught by professors but by graduate students. A Berkeley faculty said his class is as large as 2000 students, taught in a theater. These large public schools may have decent research, but that contributes almost nothing to my undergraduate experience. This problem is especially wide spread when the schools have a student body of 40,000 or more. A ranking heavy on graduate programs typically means not good for undergraduate education given a same overall school budget.

Personally I am not sure this true. Our adult child is in a PhD program at Michigan and her/his supervisor has won awards for teaching undergraduates. This person seems very competent both intellectually and socially, and also committed to the growth of both undergraduate and post graduate students. Let us not assume that all motivations are for fame and glory. There are some committed academics out there who care about sparking brilliance in our youth at different stages of their growth.

Anonymous wrote:I and no person in my family studied at Harvard. However, I have appreciated that many Harvard grads whom I have met rarely brag. When folks ask where they went to school, Harvard grads often reply “a school in Cambridge.”. Also, they are often kind and willing to consider different points of view.

On the other hand, some Harvard recent grads occasionally appear to suffer from delusions of grandeur and demand such perks as business class tickets for entry type positions. It does not go down well for anyone from wherever they graduated from to demand status and payment that is not commensurate with work provided. Whatever school you go to, you need to prove your mettle through making valuable contributions and simply being a good person.

Hopefully, there is a good fit for everyone out there and hopefully Young people will find ways to cultivate their unique gifts to contribute the maximum good to society and at the same time to be true to themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Times World Rankings

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2020/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25/sort_by/rank/sort_order/asc/cols/stats

This has more to do with graduate research.

And Michigan comes out ahead once again.

As well it should, it spends over a half a billion of your tuition dollars on research every year. Funny they don't put that in brochures.

I'm surprised that this is such a bugaboo for you. Tons of undergraduate and graduate students get to participate in those research projects. That is valuable experience.

https://lsa.umich.edu/urop/students.html

This is at the same time the problem for the undergraduates. Public schools like Michigan, UC-Berkeley or UIUC spend a large proportion of their resources on graduate programs and research. Professors only care about their research and do not give a damn to undergraduate teaching because their career and fame only depend on their research. This is why you find you as an undergrad student would have a hard time finding opportunity to interact with professors in those schools. Many courses are not taught by professors but by graduate students. A Berkeley faculty said his class is as large as 2000 students, taught in a theater. These large public schools may have decent research, but that contributes almost nothing to my undergraduate experience. This problem is especially wide spread when the schools have a student body of 40,000 or more. A ranking heavy on graduate programs typically means not good for undergraduate education given a same overall school budget.

Anonymous wrote:Harvard does not have “frats”. Briefly had them for maybe 5-10 years. Harvard historically had all male “final clubs”