Anonymous
07/17/2019 17:54
Subject: ECNL & DA Nationals Results
Where can you find accurate participation numbers
Anonymous
07/17/2019 14:32
Subject: ECNL & DA Nationals Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone, anyone, please tell me when we can expect all the great male talent being spit out by our Boys DA national league. It's been 12 years.
When it was started, kids were 14. They first group that went through should be 26, 25, 24, 23, 22.....
We should could use the help to beat some of these tiny island nations with 1/4 the resources.
You seriously have reading comprehension issues. The USSF and US Soccer have major issues. The DA is the least of the problems. The USMNT has Altidore and Bradley still starting and playing meaningful minutes. Are they a DA problem?
Dont get mad. Learn to have a deeper understanding of the issues.
USSF has blessed their program (USSDA) to be the gold standard of youth development in this country. The DA was supposed to produce all these great players. Well, where are they?
USSF controls the DA, the scouts, the YNT, the money and the power.
Where is the return on investment?
Because we just can't stop selecting kids based on a stop watch, scale and a tape measure. Deep down we still believe that what we do for football and basketball translates to soccer. We pick athletes first and soccer players second.
That would actually work if those same athletes we choose for football and basketball were trained in soccer from the same young age as they are basketball and football.
How many football players are chosen at 8 years old?
It’s not that they are chosen and trained at 8, but that far more 8 year old boys in the US are playing football and basketball at recess, at home, in the basement, watching games on TV and following and trying to emulate their favorite players. Soccer is nowhere near as popular and has a much smaller player pool of natural players. Soccer is not part of the US culture for boys. For girls though soccer is probably the #1 sport of choice in the US. My daughter can name all of the USWNT players and has a Alex Morgan Jersey. My son, who also plays travel soccer, watches football and basketball on TV and can name every QB and wears Lebron James’ jersey.
Your stats are pulled out of your butt.
https://www.aspenprojectplay.org/kids-sports-participation-rates
And that proves what? Surely you aren’t arguing that soccer is more popular for boys in the US than basketball or football? Participation doesn’t equal cultural popularity. Most US kids who play soccer still wouldn’t call it their favorite sport.
You said this:
t’s not that they are chosen and trained at 8, but that far more 8 year old boys in the US are playing football and basketball at recess, at home, in the basement, watching games on TV and following and trying to emulate their favorite players. Soccer is nowhere near as popular and has a much smaller player pool of natural players.
You were discussing participation numbers and actual participation numbers were presented. If you can come with participation numbers of what kids play at recess, well have at it.
Anonymous
07/16/2019 21:57
Subject: ECNL & DA Nationals Results
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Someone, anyone, please tell me when we can expect all the great male talent being spit out by our Boys DA national league. It's been 12 years.
When it was started, kids were 14. They first group that went through should be 26, 25, 24, 23, 22.....
We should could use the help to beat some of these tiny island nations with 1/4 the resources.
You seriously have reading comprehension issues. The USSF and US Soccer have major issues. The DA is the least of the problems. The USMNT has Altidore and Bradley still starting and playing meaningful minutes. Are they a DA problem?
Dont get mad. Learn to have a deeper understanding of the issues.
USSF has blessed their program (USSDA) to be the gold standard of youth development in this country. The DA was supposed to produce all these great players. Well, where are they?
USSF controls the DA, the scouts, the YNT, the money and the power.
Where is the return on investment?
Because we just can't stop selecting kids based on a stop watch, scale and a tape measure. Deep down we still believe that what we do for football and basketball translates to soccer. We pick athletes first and soccer players second.
That would actually work if those same athletes we choose for football and basketball were trained in soccer from the same young age as they are basketball and football.
How many football players are chosen at 8 years old?
It’s not that they are chosen and trained at 8, but that far more 8 year old boys in the US are playing football and basketball at recess, at home, in the basement, watching games on TV and following and trying to emulate their favorite players. Soccer is nowhere near as popular and has a much smaller player pool of natural players. Soccer is not part of the US culture for boys. For girls though soccer is probably the #1 sport of choice in the US. My daughter can name all of the USWNT players and has a Alex Morgan Jersey. My son, who also plays travel soccer, watches football and basketball on TV and can name every QB and wears Lebron James’ jersey.
Your stats are pulled out of your butt.
https://www.aspenprojectplay.org/kids-sports-participation-rates
And that proves what? Surely you aren’t arguing that soccer is more popular for boys in the US than basketball or football? Participation doesn’t equal cultural popularity. Most US kids who play soccer still wouldn’t call it their favorite sport.