And meanwhile, why did 23 Republicans pull out of a bill to condemn anti-semitism when islamophobia and white supremacy were added to it? We only care about anti-semitic hate but anti-muslim hate is perfectly fine?

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But the Islamophobia here and in Europe is way louder, creepier and hurtful to people’s everyday lives than the anti-Semitism.

According to the FBI 58% of all religious hate crimes in the US were anti -Jewish. Only 19% were anti-Muslim

https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2017/topic-pages/incidents-and-offenses

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But the Islamophobia here and in Europe is way louder, creepier and hurtful to people’s everyday lives than the anti-Semitism.

According to the FBI 58% of all religious hate crimes in the US were anti -Jewish. Only 19% were anti-Muslim

https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2017/topic-pages/incidents-and-offenses

An inconvenient truth for some, maybe.

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But the Islamophobia here and in Europe is way louder, creepier and hurtful to people’s everyday lives than the anti-Semitism.

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Anonymous wrote:The big question is can anyone criticize or question Israel, it policies or its relations with the US and not be called anti-Semitic? It always seems if there is anything negative said about Israel there is always someone saying it’s anti-semitic.

I don't think it's a question at all. I think it's become quite clear that anything whatsoever that is in any way whatsoever critical of Israel's policies, politics, or relations between the US and Israel will immediately be jumped on as anti-Semitic regardless of whether or not it actually is anti-semitic or not. Bernie Sanders, who himself is a Jew, pointed out that a counterproductive conflation of legitimate policy criticisms into "anti-semitism" has happened.

Anonymous wrote:For a few years now the right has been trying to make Israel a partisan issue. As soon as that happens, the US relationship with Israel will change. Just look at NATO. Before Trump the orthodoxy was both parties supported NATO. Now...many republicans question why we are in it.

Trump was echoing the sentiments of the 25 percent of U.S. adults who, according to a YouGov poll conducted this week, hold an unfavorable view of NATO. That includes 15 percent who see the alliance “somewhat” unfavorably and 10 percent who see it “very” unfavorably. By contrast, 24 percent of Americans give NATO somewhat favorable ratings, and 20 percent give it very favorable ratings, for a total favorability score of 44 percent.

Like so much else these days, NATO has become a partisan issue. Democrats told YouGov that they view NATO favorably by an overwhelming 55-point margin (64 percent to 9 percent), but among Republicans, unfavorable opinions of NATO win out by an 8-point margin: 45 percent to 37 percent. Among Trump voters, 54 percent view NATO unfavorably, while just 33 percent view it favorably.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-trump-fueling-republicans-concerns-about-nato-or-echoing-them/

I think we are beginning to see the same shift in support for Israel in the Democratic Party. The fastest growing demographic groups just do not have any connection to Israel and those groups lean democratic vs republican. I do not see these democrats as antisemtic or anti Israel. They just have different priorities vs Israel. You could see that in the response to this “crisis”. The leadership(older members) wanted to response one way, the new guard said no.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

But the Islamophobia here and in Europe is way louder, creepier and hurtful to people’s everyday lives than the anti-Semitism.

According to the FBI 58% of all religious hate crimes in the US were anti -Jewish. Only 19% were anti-Muslim

https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2017/topic-pages/incidents-and-offenses

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But the Islamophobia here and in Europe is way louder, creepier and hurtful to people’s everyday lives than the anti-Semitism.

Anonymous wrote:The big question is can anyone criticize or question Israel, it policies or its relations with the US and not be called anti-Semitic? It always seems if there is anything negative said about Israel there is always someone saying it’s anti-semitic.

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Anonymous wrote:Lee Zeldin captures what many of us think.

One of the greatest speeches ever. One for the books.

Anonymous wrote:Lee Zeldin captures what many of us think.

Trump was echoing the sentiments of the 25 percent of U.S. adults who, according to a YouGov poll conducted this week, hold an unfavorable view of NATO. That includes 15 percent who see the alliance “somewhat” unfavorably and 10 percent who see it “very” unfavorably. By contrast, 24 percent of Americans give NATO somewhat favorable ratings, and 20 percent give it very favorable ratings, for a total favorability score of 44 percent.

Like so much else these days, NATO has become a partisan issue. Democrats told YouGov that they view NATO favorably by an overwhelming 55-point margin (64 percent to 9 percent), but among Republicans, unfavorable opinions of NATO win out by an 8-point margin: 45 percent to 37 percent. Among Trump voters, 54 percent view NATO unfavorably, while just 33 percent view it favorably.

Anonymous wrote:I agree with her, Israel has an outsize influence in American politics, it is very much of a dual allegiance situation, and money is an important part of the support. Israel didn't boycott South Africa during its apartheid years, it has dirty hands now, treats Ethiopian Jews like the South Africans treated their blacks.. Would you ever see a bill in the US Congress punishing US citizens for boycotting any other country? France or Britain?