Anonymous
Post 04/07/2019 09:10     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Colossal failure on the Trump administration's part in being unwilling or unable to deal with this crisis. They can't even pick a nominee to head ICE.


The Trump admin has clearly been stymied by regulatory guardrails, legal limitations and a Congress that has scoffed at the president’s requests for legislative changes.

In other words they have no sane plan.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2019 08:58     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-oe-0806-moreno-central-america-immigration-20140806-story.html

“Fifteen years ago, people in my native Colombia asked the same painful question. A seemingly endless cycle of violence fueled by insurgent groups and drug cartels, combined with widespread poverty, had made it difficult to believe that Colombia could ever escape its downward spiral.
But we did. Thanks in large part to Plan Colombia — a decade-long, $8-billion U.S. aid program to help rebuild institutions, eradicate drug production and expand social protection — Colombia has undergone an extraordinary turnaround. Although it still struggles with high levels of crime, violence has dropped to a fraction of what it was in the 1990s. Investment is pouring in, economic growth is strong and, most important, young people no longer see migration as the only route to a better life.”
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2019 08:50     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Dear DCUM Democrats,
Please speak up here. Please share how you want to respond to this crisis.
Thank you.


What crisis?


when nymag, an elite liberal publication, clearly states there is a crisis and provides evidence of said immigration crisis, feigning ignorance is no longer a solution.

Exactly.


This isn’t a NYT opinion piece. The person calling it a crisis is the commissioner of Customs and Border Protection.

The actual issue is the violence and instability in Honduras.

FYI, there's "violence and instability" around the globe, my friend. What exactly is your point? Open borders for all.


No. But if you want to have fewer refugees then fix the actual issue.

"Violence and instability" is the issue.
How would YOU like to "fix" it?

Crickets.


Crickets? Yes. It’s not a burning issue for me despite your attempts to spin up a frenzy.

While I do think this is a terrible situation and we should help our neighbors I am personally more concerned about the bigger problems at home.

So if this is a burning issue for YOU, find a way to solve the actual problem. Hint. It’s not a wall.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2019 08:35     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Dear DCUM Democrats,
Please speak up here. Please share how you want to respond to this crisis.
Thank you.


What crisis?


when nymag, an elite liberal publication, clearly states there is a crisis and provides evidence of said immigration crisis, feigning ignorance is no longer a solution.

Exactly.


This isn’t a NYT opinion piece. The person calling it a crisis is the commissioner of Customs and Border Protection.

The actual issue is the violence and instability in Honduras.

FYI, there's "violence and instability" around the globe, my friend. What exactly is your point? Open borders for all.


No. But if you want to have fewer refugees then fix the actual issue.

"Violence and instability" is the issue.
How would YOU like to "fix" it?

Crickets.


And what has this done?
https://explorer.usaid.gov/cd/GTM

padded the pockets of the few who are wealthy and in control
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2019 08:13     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Dear DCUM Democrats,
Please speak up here. Please share how you want to respond to this crisis.
Thank you.


What crisis?


when nymag, an elite liberal publication, clearly states there is a crisis and provides evidence of said immigration crisis, feigning ignorance is no longer a solution.

Exactly.


This isn’t a NYT opinion piece. The person calling it a crisis is the commissioner of Customs and Border Protection.

The actual issue is the violence and instability in Honduras.

FYI, there's "violence and instability" around the globe, my friend. What exactly is your point? Open borders for all.


No. But if you want to have fewer refugees then fix the actual issue.

"Violence and instability" is the issue.
How would YOU like to "fix" it?

Crickets.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2019 01:14     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:Colossal failure on the Trump administration's part in being unwilling or unable to deal with this crisis. They can't even pick a nominee to head ICE.


The Trump admin has clearly been stymied by regulatory guardrails, legal limitations and a Congress that has scoffed at the president’s requests for legislative changes.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 23:43     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Dear DCUM Democrats,
Please speak up here. Please share how you want to respond to this crisis.
Thank you.


What crisis?


when nymag, an elite liberal publication, clearly states there is a crisis and provides evidence of said immigration crisis, feigning ignorance is no longer a solution.

Exactly.


This isn’t a NYT opinion piece. The person calling it a crisis is the commissioner of Customs and Border Protection.

The actual issue is the violence and instability in Honduras.

FYI, there's "violence and instability" around the globe, my friend. What exactly is your point? Open borders for all.


No. But if you want to have fewer refugees then fix the actual issue.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 23:26     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Colossal failure on the Trump administration's part in being unwilling or unable to deal with this crisis. They can't even pick a nominee to head ICE.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 23:16     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/05/us/border-crossing-increase.html

Even the NYT admits that the U.S./Mexico border is in crisis due to the overwhelming number of immigrants trying to gain entrance.

;For the fourth time in five months, the number of migrant families crossing the southwest border has broken records, border enforcement authorities said Tuesday, warning that government facilities are full and agents are overwhelmed.
More than 76,000 migrants crossed the border without authorization in February, more than double the levels from the same period last year and approaching the largest numbers seen in any February in the last 12 years.
“The system is well beyond capacity, and remains at the breaking point,” Kevin K. McAleenan, commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, told reporters in announcing the new data.
“These solutions are temporary and this situation is not sustainable,” Mr. McAleenan said. “This is clearly both a border security and a humanitarian crisis.”
Beginning for the first time in October, members of families have come to outpace apprehensions of individual adult migrants. Mr. McAleenan said the authorities believe this is a result of smugglers having effectively communicated across Central America that adults who travel with children will be allowed to enter and stay in the United States.
“Crossing with a child is a guarantee of a speedy release and an indefinite release into the United States,” Mr. McAleenan said.
Brian Hastings, the agency’s chief of law enforcement operations, said that since April 2018, border agents had detected nearly 2,400 cases in which migrants had falsely claimed to be related when they were not, or untruthfully claimed to be younger than 18.
The larger numbers and the surge into more remote areas of the border have drawn new attention to longstanding problems with medical services provided by Customs and Border Protection. Migrant families, in particular, tend to arrive in urgent need of medical attention, the agency said, which has strained resources and drawn agents away from their law enforcement duties.
Last year, the agency referred 12,000 border crossers to emergency rooms for care, each one requiring an agent to wait with them at the hospital and ensure they were immediately returned to federal custody upon release. The rates of hospital referrals are increasing, the agency said, with about 145 agents per day currently acting as hospital escorts. Meanwhile, cocaine seizures for the current fiscal year have already exceeded the previous one, and methamphetamine seizures have also increased, according to the agency, a situation that also is demanding staff resources.


I find it unbelievable, to say the least, that the U.S. is supposed to pay for all of the medical attention these people need. Many of them arrive at the border extremely sick, and then our Border Patrol is blamed when they die in custody - as if we were responsible for them getting sick in the first place. Why isn't Mexico stopping these people and treating them rather than allowing them to continue to our border?


The numbers are staggering. Open Border Democrats seem to want every poor person in the world to have the option to come here.


LIAR. Democrats don’t want open borders.


Np. How can you say that p.p.unless it's snark? I'm begging my democrat congresspeople to legislate on this matter in favor of some border controls. I see nothing but incredible headache if we all don't compromise. I have kids and grandkids, am older now and frankly am a bit scared. I doubt I'm alone feeling this way.


You are the target audience here for the fearmongering.

Wanting smarter immigration controls <> open borders


P.p. here who referenced fear, i.e., anxiety for USA future. Who doesn't have some fear nowadays? No I'm not "the target audience" that's nuts. I'm an educated consumer. I'm a decades contributing high income taxpayer who has voted DEM all my life minus 1 and who is very very concerned about us turning far left socialist. I've studied politics and history for years. I read all of Solzhenitsyn books as well as books on Hitler's rise to power. Very similar times if DEMS have their ways.

Each of us should object to the far left naivety on socialism for the USA. I'm no target audience, I'm an educated consumer.


Thank you for sharing your astute comments on this forum. You are the much needed voice of reason. Thank you again.


+1.

DP here, who has never voted R.

If the election is Bernie or similar vs. Trump, I will vote Trump.

Same here.


+2
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 23:16     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Dear DCUM Democrats,
Please speak up here. Please share how you want to respond to this crisis.
Thank you.


What crisis?


when nymag, an elite liberal publication, clearly states there is a crisis and provides evidence of said immigration crisis, feigning ignorance is no longer a solution.


+ NYT, WaPo, etc. But really, PP - no need to waste your time trying to convince imbeciles. They will always refuse to acknowledge anything that works against their liberal agenda.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 23:14     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been nervous and afraid for the future too. I reached out to a certain Congressperson who represents an especially affected area of Virginia and no response.


Yeah, that Virginia-Mexico border area is out of control!


Such an idiotic, obtuse response. Been to parts of Annandale, Herndon, etc. recently?
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 22:17     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Dear DCUM Democrats,
Please speak up here. Please share how you want to respond to this crisis.
Thank you.


What crisis?


when nymag, an elite liberal publication, clearly states there is a crisis and provides evidence of said immigration crisis, feigning ignorance is no longer a solution.

Exactly.


This isn’t a NYT opinion piece. The person calling it a crisis is the commissioner of Customs and Border Protection.

The actual issue is the violence and instability in Honduras.

FYI, there's "violence and instability" around the globe, my friend. What exactly is your point? Open borders for all.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 22:14     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Dear DCUM Democrats,
Please speak up here. Please share how you want to respond to this crisis.
Thank you.


What crisis?


when nymag, an elite liberal publication, clearly states there is a crisis and provides evidence of said immigration crisis, feigning ignorance is no longer a solution.

Exactly.


This isn’t a NYT opinion piece. The person calling it a crisis is the commissioner of Customs and Border Protection.

The actual issue is the violence and instability in Honduras.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 21:59     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Dear DCUM Democrats,
Please speak up here. Please share how you want to respond to this crisis.
Thank you.


What crisis?


when nymag, an elite liberal publication, clearly states there is a crisis and provides evidence of said immigration crisis, feigning ignorance is no longer a solution.

Exactly.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2019 21:55     Subject: Border at ‘Breaking Point’ as More than 76,000 Migrants Cross in a Month

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Or, jut maybe, it shows how precarious their home country situation is, and how desperate they are to leave, you know, the way your grandparents or great grandparents where when they came to the US?


Why is that so many fail to meet the requirements for asylum? If you want to let more millions in, do you really still expect to provide government programs to cover all of their needs? How exactly will that work?


Asylum is rightly a very narrow definition and should remain that way


But international law requires that we let everyone make their case, so they are coming.
What we really need is more detention facilities and a rapid adjudication system. That will be more effective and more humane deterrent than a wall.


No, it doesn't. There has to be a documented knowledge of a military conflict or political/sex minority/religion minority oppression BEFORE asylum seekers are let in. That's how foreign countries' citizens get asylum quotas.
Otherwise the whole world will be here claiming asylum and living in the US until their case is processed.


Not true. All they need to do is show up at the border and say the magic words (coached by their coyote) in the initial interview. After that we have to let them in until their case is processed but of course they vanish before that happens.

This is why we need judges at the border conducting this initial interview or at least upping the standards for how easy it is to get through it. something like 90% ultimately fail to get asylum so all of the time spent on law enforcement, court, etc. is wasted tax payer dollars when we couldve cut this off at the pass



I completely agree. It's astounding how much money the U.S. spends on all of the above, as well as shelter, medical care, food, etc. If they were required to stay in Mexico until their cases were heard, then Mexico would be responsible for all of this, not us.

And I'm repulsed when people (liberals) blame border patrol for deaths of immigrants - when those very immigrants are showing up on death's doorstep. Exactly how are we responsible for their choice to make an arduous, dangerous, and unhealthy journey? Mexico needs to step up and treat them, not us.

+1,000