Anonymous
04/28/2019 19:04
Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:
I think that’s what PP meant, not a swap but moving Immersion to schools that are better situated to access the Latinx community, where they live now, and then redrawing boundaries accordingly. That would be moving towards equity. Making this option, and others, more accessible to the families who have the highest barriers to participation makes very good sense.
I think if we’re interested in lowering barriers, we want to add some immersion K classes at Barrett, not just swap one Latinx community for another, while replacing their neighborhood school with an option school. What most Spanish speakers want is pretty much what everyone else wants- a neighborhood school. Immersion has a rich history, strong support in the county, and seems to be in demand for both English and Spanish speakers. There is a sizeable Spanish speaking population in the Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon area who have remained despite gentrification, who share the very same barriers to access, and have specifically asked that their school not be moved. A lottery is a barrier in and of itself, but that’s another topic.
So I think the whole “sizeable spanish speaking population in Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon area” is one of the biggest pieces of misinformation from this whole swap conversation. The closest thing to a large spanish speaking population are the residents at Woodbury park (who were the ones quoted in that wash post article). There are I think around 100 kids at the planning unit, and over 50 of themgo to asfs currently. The extended day argument is bs because Woodbury park residents have an after school program in their building. It’s such fake news.
Even look at the key pta website. Not a word of spanish. Look at the Barrett pta website. It has a convert to spanish button, and their pta notes are in both spanish and English.
I’m not saying we shouldn’t move key, it’s obvious that the community is extremely attached to the location. But aps should look at having immersion classrooms in the majority Hispanic schools. Maybe get rid of having full immersion schools and have the model be instead immersion classrooms at several neighborhood schools.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 18:42
Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thread is only barely still on topic.
So pathways in June; and hopeful swap by dec?
Yes hopefully swap Key and Barrett come December
Wow this is a really great idea.
They meant Key and Carlin Springs
You mean move Immersion to Carlin spring or Barrett — not a swap since busing all those kids to Courhouse would be a big PITA for those families.
Aren't Barrett and Carlin Springs already immersion? If you want your kids to learn Spanish just do a neighborhood transfer there.
No. Do you even go here?
NP. Functionally they are Spanish immersion. Probably twice as many native Spanish speakers at each of those schools than at key.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 18:39
Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:
I think that’s what PP meant, not a swap but moving Immersion to schools that are better situated to access the Latinx community, where they live now, and then redrawing boundaries accordingly. That would be moving towards equity. Making this option, and others, more accessible to the families who have the highest barriers to participation makes very good sense.
I think if we’re interested in lowering barriers, we want to add some immersion K classes at Barrett, not just swap one Latinx community for another, while replacing their neighborhood school with an option school. What most Spanish speakers want is pretty much what everyone else wants- a neighborhood school. Immersion has a rich history, strong support in the county, and seems to be in demand for both English and Spanish speakers. There is a sizeable Spanish speaking population in the Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon area who have remained despite gentrification, who share the very same barriers to access, and have specifically asked that their school not be moved. A lottery is a barrier in and of itself, but that’s another topic.
Sorry, no. Key has a problem attracting Spanish speakers. There is no waitlist for them. And applications are 3 or 4 to 1 Anglo. It’s gotta move if it’s to fulfill its purpose.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 16:23
Subject: ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
I hope everyone here is speaking up on the IPP survey APS sent around. Not that they will really pay any attention to it (they already know what they are going to do-- but if they give us a survey first, they can pretend that they "listened" to us!). Why is APS even considering more options, which will do nothing but create more inequity among the elementary schools, and add to transportation costs/headaches??
Anonymous
04/28/2019 16:02
Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I think that’s what PP meant, not a swap but moving Immersion to schools that are better situated to access the Latinx community, where they live now, and then redrawing boundaries accordingly. That would be moving towards equity. Making this option, and others, more accessible to the families who have the highest barriers to participation makes very good sense.
I think if we’re interested in lowering barriers, we want to add some immersion K classes at Barrett, not just swap one Latinx community for another, while replacing their neighborhood school with an option school. What most Spanish speakers want is pretty much what everyone else wants- a neighborhood school. Immersion has a rich history, strong support in the county, and seems to be in demand for both English and Spanish speakers. There is a sizeable Spanish speaking population in the Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon area who have remained despite gentrification, who share the very same barriers to access, and have specifically asked that their school not be moved. A lottery is a barrier in and of itself, but that’s another topic.
Those kids in court house will have access to a diverse, well integrated, neighborhood school, with a large cohort of native English speakers, when immersion moves. They’ll be fine.
The kids living near Carlin Springs don’t have those same advantages. They attend a low performing segregated school. How about we give those kids a fair shake with an immersion program and a cohort of higher achieving kids.
I think the parents of the kids who live in Rosslyn/Courthouse and currently attend Key know what’s best for their kids, and they have spoken up and told APS what that is, and they were heard, hence the “pause”. I totally agree about Carlin Springs, and think they should add an immersion K class there too, and wherever else there might be an unmet need. Keep in mind though that in a lottery only option school, more children will be denied access to what was once their neighborhood school.
DP
It’s not just about what is best for specific or current kids. It’s about what’s best for the program and the entire county. Where will Immersion, or any other option schools, best serve students/families and continue to flourish? That’s the question. Not whether or not current families like things the way they are. Of course parents who have moved close to and/or committed to a specific program want it to remain where it is now. The question we have to ask is whether or not the current locations are sustainable, given limited transportation and construction resources.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 15:53
Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I think that’s what PP meant, not a swap but moving Immersion to schools that are better situated to access the Latinx community, where they live now, and then redrawing boundaries accordingly. That would be moving towards equity. Making this option, and others, more accessible to the families who have the highest barriers to participation makes very good sense.
I think if we’re interested in lowering barriers, we want to add some immersion K classes at Barrett, not just swap one Latinx community for another, while replacing their neighborhood school with an option school. What most Spanish speakers want is pretty much what everyone else wants- a neighborhood school. Immersion has a rich history, strong support in the county, and seems to be in demand for both English and Spanish speakers. There is a sizeable Spanish speaking population in the Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon area who have remained despite gentrification, who share the very same barriers to access, and have specifically asked that their school not be moved. A lottery is a barrier in and of itself, but that’s another topic.
Those kids in court house will have access to a diverse, well integrated, neighborhood school, with a large cohort of native English speakers, when immersion moves. They’ll be fine.
The kids living near Carlin Springs don’t have those same advantages. They attend a low performing segregated school. How about we give those kids a fair shake with an immersion program and a cohort of higher achieving kids.
I think the parents of the kids who live in Rosslyn/Courthouse and currently attend Key know what’s best for their kids, and they have spoken up and told APS what that is, and they were heard, hence the “pause”. I totally agree about Carlin Springs, and think they should add an immersion K class there too, and wherever else there might be an unmet need. Keep in mind though that in a lottery only option school, more children will be denied access to what was once their neighborhood school.
Yes. Those parents have spoken very loudly for what is best for their kids. Like all of north Arlington, they’re great at it.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 15:47
Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I think that’s what PP meant, not a swap but moving Immersion to schools that are better situated to access the Latinx community, where they live now, and then redrawing boundaries accordingly. That would be moving towards equity. Making this option, and others, more accessible to the families who have the highest barriers to participation makes very good sense.
I think if we’re interested in lowering barriers, we want to add some immersion K classes at Barrett, not just swap one Latinx community for another, while replacing their neighborhood school with an option school. What most Spanish speakers want is pretty much what everyone else wants- a neighborhood school. Immersion has a rich history, strong support in the county, and seems to be in demand for both English and Spanish speakers. There is a sizeable Spanish speaking population in the Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon area who have remained despite gentrification, who share the very same barriers to access, and have specifically asked that their school not be moved. A lottery is a barrier in and of itself, but that’s another topic.
Those kids in court house will have access to a diverse, well integrated, neighborhood school, with a large cohort of native English speakers, when immersion moves. They’ll be fine.
The kids living near Carlin Springs don’t have those same advantages. They attend a low performing segregated school. How about we give those kids a fair shake with an immersion program and a cohort of higher achieving kids.
I think the parents of the kids who live in Rosslyn/Courthouse and currently attend Key know what’s best for their kids, and they have spoken up and told APS what that is, and they were heard, hence the “pause”. I totally agree about Carlin Springs, and think they should add an immersion K class there too, and wherever else there might be an unmet need. Keep in mind though that in a lottery only option school, more children will be denied access to what was once their neighborhood school.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 15:12
Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thread is only barely still on topic.
So pathways in June; and hopeful swap by dec?
Yes hopefully swap Key and Barrett come December
Wow this is a really great idea.
They meant Key and Carlin Springs
You mean move Immersion to Carlin spring or Barrett — not a swap since busing all those kids to Courhouse would be a big PITA for those families.
Aren't Barrett and Carlin Springs already immersion? If you want your kids to learn Spanish just do a neighborhood transfer there.
No. Do you even go here?
Anonymous
04/28/2019 15:01
Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thread is only barely still on topic.
So pathways in June; and hopeful swap by dec?
Yes hopefully swap Key and Barrett come December
Wow this is a really great idea.
They meant Key and Carlin Springs
You mean move Immersion to Carlin spring or Barrett — not a swap since busing all those kids to Courhouse would be a big PITA for those families.
Aren't Barrett and Carlin Springs already immersion? If you want your kids to learn Spanish just do a neighborhood transfer there.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 14:00
Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:
I think that’s what PP meant, not a swap but moving Immersion to schools that are better situated to access the Latinx community, where they live now, and then redrawing boundaries accordingly. That would be moving towards equity. Making this option, and others, more accessible to the families who have the highest barriers to participation makes very good sense.
I think if we’re interested in lowering barriers, we want to add some immersion K classes at Barrett, not just swap one Latinx community for another, while replacing their neighborhood school with an option school. What most Spanish speakers want is pretty much what everyone else wants- a neighborhood school. Immersion has a rich history, strong support in the county, and seems to be in demand for both English and Spanish speakers. There is a sizeable Spanish speaking population in the Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon area who have remained despite gentrification, who share the very same barriers to access, and have specifically asked that their school not be moved. A lottery is a barrier in and of itself, but that’s another topic.
Those kids in court house will have access to a diverse, well integrated, neighborhood school, with a large cohort of native English speakers, when immersion moves. They’ll be fine.
The kids living near Carlin Springs don’t have those same advantages. They attend a low performing segregated school. How about we give those kids a fair shake with an immersion program and a cohort of higher achieving kids.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 13:33
Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
I think that’s what PP meant, not a swap but moving Immersion to schools that are better situated to access the Latinx community, where they live now, and then redrawing boundaries accordingly. That would be moving towards equity. Making this option, and others, more accessible to the families who have the highest barriers to participation makes very good sense.
I think if we’re interested in lowering barriers, we want to add some immersion K classes at Barrett, not just swap one Latinx community for another, while replacing their neighborhood school with an option school. What most Spanish speakers want is pretty much what everyone else wants- a neighborhood school. Immersion has a rich history, strong support in the county, and seems to be in demand for both English and Spanish speakers. There is a sizeable Spanish speaking population in the Rosslyn/Courthouse/Clarendon area who have remained despite gentrification, who share the very same barriers to access, and have specifically asked that their school not be moved. A lottery is a barrier in and of itself, but that’s another topic.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 11:14
Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thread is only barely still on topic.
So pathways in June; and hopeful swap by dec?
Yes hopefully swap Key and Barrett come December
Wow this is a really great idea.
They meant Key and Carlin Springs
You mean move Immersion to Carlin spring or Barrett — not a swap since busing all those kids to Courhouse would be a big PITA for those families.
I think that’s what PP meant, not a swap but moving Immersion to schools that are better situated to access the Latinx community, where they live now, and then redrawing boundaries accordingly. That would be moving towards equity. Making this option, and others, more accessible to the families who have the highest barriers to participation makes very good sense.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 11:01
Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thread is only barely still on topic.
So pathways in June; and hopeful swap by dec?
Yes hopefully swap Key and Barrett come December
Wow this is a really great idea.
They meant Key and Carlin Springs
You mean move Immersion to Carlin spring or Barrett — not a swap since busing all those kids to Courhouse would be a big PITA for those families.
Anonymous
04/28/2019 10:15
Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thread is only barely still on topic.
So pathways in June; and hopeful swap by dec?
Yes hopefully swap Key and Barrett come December
Wow this is a really great idea.
They meant Key and Carlin Springs
Anonymous
04/28/2019 09:31
Subject: Re:ASFS/Key Swap Off . . .
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Thread is only barely still on topic.
So pathways in June; and hopeful swap by dec?
Yes hopefully swap Key and Barrett come December
Wow this is a really great idea.