Anonymous
Post 12/17/2018 14:10     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

I’m good with the Kate Steinle shutdown
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2018 13:58     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody cares one way or the other. Everyone is focused on the holidays. Hey the Feds will even get some extra vacay with backpay!


Want to give us your name and phone number so you can issue that HR policy guaranteeing back pay? Because many of the families I know who are Feds are really stressed because it's the holiday season with extra bills and they're facing the prospect of no paycheck for an undetermined amount of time. No other civilized country runs their budgetary process with such uncertainty.


Provide a link to the most recent time that backpay was not given.

Take it up with your representatives. Government shutdowns, especially this new model of a “partial” shutdown, affects such a small group of people that there is not really any pressure on lawmakers to avoid it. Now stopping entitlement checks - THAT would get people’s attention. But they won’t do that, or touch the military, which is why most people don’t care.

I think a shutdown is absurd, especially over a border wall, but until it affects more people, they will keep pulling stunts like this.


In any company (or country), 400,000 employees is not a small group of people.

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/17/676689450/heres-what-would-happen-if-the-government-shuts-down-this-week


+1 400,000 is a huge number of people. When they don't get their paycheck, it affects the economy.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2018 13:49     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nobody cares one way or the other. Everyone is focused on the holidays. Hey the Feds will even get some extra vacay with backpay!


Want to give us your name and phone number so you can issue that HR policy guaranteeing back pay? Because many of the families I know who are Feds are really stressed because it's the holiday season with extra bills and they're facing the prospect of no paycheck for an undetermined amount of time. No other civilized country runs their budgetary process with such uncertainty.


Provide a link to the most recent time that backpay was not given.

Take it up with your representatives. Government shutdowns, especially this new model of a “partial” shutdown, affects such a small group of people that there is not really any pressure on lawmakers to avoid it. Now stopping entitlement checks - THAT would get people’s attention. But they won’t do that, or touch the military, which is why most people don’t care.

I think a shutdown is absurd, especially over a border wall, but until it affects more people, they will keep pulling stunts like this.


In any company (or country), 400,000 employees is not a small group of people.

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/17/676689450/heres-what-would-happen-if-the-government-shuts-down-this-week
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2018 13:46     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nobody cares one way or the other. Everyone is focused on the holidays. Hey the Feds will even get some extra vacay with backpay!


Want to give us your name and phone number so you can issue that HR policy guaranteeing back pay? Because many of the families I know who are Feds are really stressed because it's the holiday season with extra bills and they're facing the prospect of no paycheck for an undetermined amount of time. No other civilized country runs their budgetary process with such uncertainty.


Provide a link to the most recent time that backpay was not given.

Take it up with your representatives. Government shutdowns, especially this new model of a “partial” shutdown, affects such a small group of people that there is not really any pressure on lawmakers to avoid it. Now stopping entitlement checks - THAT would get people’s attention. But they won’t do that, or touch the military, which is why most people don’t care.

I think a shutdown is absurd, especially over a border wall, but until it affects more people, they will keep pulling stunts like this.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2018 13:16     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Thanks, I hope so too but am not too optimistic.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2018 11:40     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nobody cares one way or the other. Everyone is focused on the holidays. Hey the Feds will even get some extra vacay with backpay!


Want to give us your name and phone number so you can issue that HR policy guaranteeing back pay? Because many of the families I know who are Feds are really stressed because it's the holiday season with extra bills and they're facing the prospect of no paycheck for an undetermined amount of time. No other civilized country runs their budgetary process with such uncertainty.


And no "extra vacay" will be given to those who are declared essential and have to cancel their holiday leave and work.

That's what we are waiting on right now...whether we will be able to travel to celebrate Christmas with Mom in her nursing home or whether we will have to cancel plans or try to reschedule.


I'm sorry to hear that. Fingers crossed that somehow the GOP find an agreement within its warring factions.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2018 11:10     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nobody cares one way or the other. Everyone is focused on the holidays. Hey the Feds will even get some extra vacay with backpay!


Want to give us your name and phone number so you can issue that HR policy guaranteeing back pay? Because many of the families I know who are Feds are really stressed because it's the holiday season with extra bills and they're facing the prospect of no paycheck for an undetermined amount of time. No other civilized country runs their budgetary process with such uncertainty.


And no "extra vacay" will be given to those who are declared essential and have to cancel their holiday leave and work.

That's what we are waiting on right now...whether we will be able to travel to celebrate Christmas with Mom in her nursing home or whether we will have to cancel plans or try to reschedule.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2018 10:31     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Anonymous wrote:Nobody cares one way or the other. Everyone is focused on the holidays. Hey the Feds will even get some extra vacay with backpay!


Want to give us your name and phone number so you can issue that HR policy guaranteeing back pay? Because many of the families I know who are Feds are really stressed because it's the holiday season with extra bills and they're facing the prospect of no paycheck for an undetermined amount of time. No other civilized country runs their budgetary process with such uncertainty.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2018 10:28     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Nobody cares one way or the other. Everyone is focused on the holidays. Hey the Feds will even get some extra vacay with backpay!
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2018 10:14     Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

What does it mean that the best Trump can find to send on the talk shows is Stephen Miller?

White House senior adviser Stephen Miller on Sunday said the Trump administration would “do whatever is necessary” to build its signature wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, even if it means shutting down the government.

“We're going to do whatever is necessary to build the border wall to stop this ongoing crisis of illegal immigration,” Miller, a well-known immigration hard-liner, said in an interview on CBS' “Face the Nation.”


Asked by interviewer Margaret Brennan whether that meant forcing a partial government shutdown, Miller replied, “If it comes to it, absolutely.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2018 09:04     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

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Anonymous wrote:I think we will have a shutdown for 3-4 weeks


I'm afraid you might be right.

The House and Senate have gone home, will be back next Wednesday. That's certainly time to pass the appropriations bills by Friday, if they want to. Trump can sign or veto/not sign them at that point. So far, they don't seem to want to.

And then there's Christmas and New Year's. If Trump goes to Florida with the government unfunded, then the shutdown will likely last well into the new year, at a minimum.


The optics of Trump sunning himself in Mar-a-lago at taxpayer expense while the government is shutdown are terrible. But I guess the POTUS is too far gone to care.


Tell Pelosi and Schumer to care less about illegals crossing the border than they do our own citizens and you won't have a shut down.

Tell Trump he should not have reneged on the deal he was offered almost a year ago. His top priority in exchange for something most Americans, including most Republicans support. What happened to the great dealmaker?
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-immigration-deal-

LOL at those trying to blame Pelosi and Schumer for this. Trump doesn't have the votes within the GOP to get his wall done. If he did, he could have done it in the last 2 years with the GOP controlled congress.

eh.. you know his ignorant die hard supporters will blame Dems for this, despite having R control the government for the past two years.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2018 09:03     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Anonymous wrote:No Trumpster has been able to explain why Mexico isn't paying for the wall, despite Dear Leader's campaign proclamations.

I love Trump. If he says it's true, then it is. Stop questioning our Dear Leader. He is like God. He can do no wrong. He does not lie. He always tells the truth. Why do you hate America.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2018 09:01     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

Why have they stopped doing full shutdowns? That’s why no one cares. A ton of people are exempt and those who aren’t get back pay. Yawn.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2018 00:33     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

No Trumpster has been able to explain why Mexico isn't paying for the wall, despite Dear Leader's campaign proclamations.
Anonymous
Post 12/17/2018 00:33     Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall

There will seriously be a shutdown? I thought Trump came up with some convoluted explanation for his sheeple about how Mexico is paying for the wall now.