Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_States

Plenty of D’s and R’s In every section. The GOP is corrupt, but it’s either extreme ignorance, or extreme naïveté to think Democrats are not just as corrupt. Threads like this are why things never change, both parties make each other out to be the devil-incarnate so neither side ever listens to the other. If what makes you love or hate someone-or pay attention to their indiscretions-is the ‘D’ or ‘R’ in front of their name, you’re just plain dumb

No the Democrats are NOT just as corrupt. Not that they are totally innocent, but there is a level of brazen and widespread malfeasance in this administration that has not been seen in any other, either R or D.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vanity Fair has a story about mysterious and hugely profitable stock trades that occurred just before a Presidential tweet that would ultimately move the markets

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10/the-mystery-of-the-trump-chaos-trades?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=onsite-share&utm_brand=vanity-fair&utm_social-type=earned

There are some calls for this to be investigated. Needs to be. Someone earned billions on this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am hard pressed to understand how/why the GOP keeps getting elected

Looking at jobs and deficits:

Reagan: 15M jobs
$79B to $159B

Bush: 2M jobs
$153B to $255B

Clinton: 23M jobs
$255B to $128B surplus

Bush 1.5M jobs
$128B surplus to $1T debt

Obama 12M jobs
1.16T to $585B

Trump 5M jobs
$585B to $1.1T

I think it's pretty simple. The racism runs deep in this country.

Anonymous wrote:I am hard pressed to understand how/why the GOP keeps getting elected

Looking at jobs and deficits:

Reagan: 15M jobs
$79B to $159B

Bush: 2M jobs
$153B to $255B

Clinton: 23M jobs
$255B to $128B surplus

Bush 1.5M jobs
$128B surplus to $1T debt

Obama 12M jobs
1.16T to $585B

Trump 5M jobs
$585B to $1.1T

Anonymous wrote:Vanity Fair has a story about mysterious and hugely profitable stock trades that occurred just before a Presidential tweet that would ultimately move the markets

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/10/the-mystery-of-the-trump-chaos-trades?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=onsite-share&utm_brand=vanity-fair&utm_social-type=earned

Anonymous wrote:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_scandals_in_the_United_States

Plenty of D’s and R’s In every section. The GOP is corrupt, but it’s either extreme ignorance, or extreme naïveté to think Democrats are not just as corrupt. Threads like this are why things never change, both parties make each other out to be the devil-incarnate so neither side ever listens to the other. If what makes you love or hate someone-or pay attention to their indiscretions-is the ‘D’ or ‘R’ in front of their name, you’re just plain dumb

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What strikes me reading this amazing thread is the sheer number of corrupt Tea Party politicians. These are (mostly) men who wrapped themselves in the Constitution and our flag to gain political power. A constant refrain we heard was that the federal government was corrupt which is a charge that was demonstrably false - the US had the world’s best civil service staffed with highly qualified and ethical career professionals. When you read this thread you cannot help but conclude that their “ corrupt” charge was projection. These are people who cannot imagine that people with political power would be anything but corrupt because of their own inclinations. Meadows, Jordan, Mulvaney, Pence, Nunes and many of the people mentioned in this thread

What amazes me is that you think certain people who were mentioned in this thread by a DCUM liberal are automatically guilty of corruption.
One thing I have learned reading this board is that DCUM liberals too often state opinion as fact. And, others believe them.

Anonymous wrote:What strikes me reading this amazing thread is the sheer number of corrupt Tea Party politicians. These are (mostly) men who wrapped themselves in the Constitution and our flag to gain political power. A constant refrain we heard was that the federal government was corrupt which is a charge that was demonstrably false - the US had the world’s best civil service staffed with highly qualified and ethical career professionals. When you read this thread you cannot help but conclude that their “ corrupt” charge was projection. These are people who cannot imagine that people with political power would be anything but corrupt because of their own inclinations. Meadows, Jordan, Mulvaney, Pence, Nunes and many of the people mentioned in this thread

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Paul Petersen, the Republican assessor of Arizona's most populous county, was charged in Utah, Arizona and Arkansas with counts including human smuggling, sale of a child, fraud, forgery and conspiracy to commit money laundering.

Petersen ran an adoption fraud scheme that promised pregnant women thousands of dollars to lure them from a Pacific Island nation to the U.S., where they were crammed into houses to wait to give birth, sometimes with little to no prenatal care in what prosecutors called a human smuggling case.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/arizona-county-assessor-accused-human-smuggling-sale-child-adoption-scheme-n1064116?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

Jesus - that is unconscionable. And the fcking hypocrisy should be staggering but given that it's a GOP politician it's sadly not - it's expected.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Paul Petersen, the Republican assessor of Arizona's most populous county, was charged in Utah, Arizona and Arkansas with counts including human smuggling, sale of a child, fraud, forgery and conspiracy to commit money laundering.

Petersen ran an adoption fraud scheme that promised pregnant women thousands of dollars to lure them from a Pacific Island nation to the U.S., where they were crammed into houses to wait to give birth, sometimes with little to no prenatal care in what prosecutors called a human smuggling case.”

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/arizona-county-assessor-accused-human-smuggling-sale-child-adoption-scheme-n1064116?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

Holy god.

Forced birthers should ________ (be quiet). The long bar is my real thoughts, excised for ban-able content. This is so, so disgusting.

To the PP who brought up the devos family - who do you think has the girls who were taken from the border? Where were they sold?