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Anonymous wrote:True. Commute in GF is really only bad during typical rush hour.

Unfortunately rush hour is 9am through 6pm everyday

I'm not sure what you are talking about. I live in GF, and the bottleneck for my commute is McLean. It takes me ten minutes to get to Tysons or McLean, then I hit the same bottleneck everyone else in McLean hits. On the way home, I try to avoid McLean altogether. Tysons is no big deal. I often pick my kids up from school in GF during rush hour, and then head down to Tysons to run errands before heading back home.

Commuting from McLean, whether to DC, Tysons or Bethesda, is much better than commuting from Great Falls. Everyone knows this, despite the PP's efforts to claim otherwise. It is just one reason why prices is McLean inside the Beltway have appreciated over three times as much as prices in Great Falls since 2004 (30% vs. 9%).

123 from downtown Mclean is horrible. Western Mclean towards GF is a better commute to Tysons. Some areas of Mclean [Summerwood] near the rec center are practically in Tysons. There's a lot of people from MD and DC crossing through Mclean joining the Tysons commute. Mclean covers a lot of territory as does Great Falls and there are dramatically different commutes within those areas.

123 doesn't even go through downtown McLean, but commuting on 123 coming from downtown McLean is a relative breeze compared to going anywhere from Great Falls, not to mention that you're fairly close to two Metro stations (McLean and West Falls Church). Of course, if you live somewhere in 22102 near Great Falls, you may have a longer commute. The key is to be east of Tysons if you want to have an easier commute, and more commuting options.

If you take Old Dominion into McLean, and continue straight, it will take you into North Arlington, through downtown McLean. I don't give a crap what you call the road,as the name changes. In some areas it's 123. And it's not horrible. I've done it in rush hour.

Safe track metro starts this weekend.
In the next year, I reckon I smell a Great Falls comeback with more employers adding flexible work arrangements.

On the other hand, if you can't do flex, you are doubly screwed during Safe Track if you live in Great Falls, so it's at best a wash. I expect the experience will make many people appreciate good public transportation options even more.

So GF residents don't expect to scrounge for breathing room in their neighborhood or have fear taking out the dog at 11 pm. Just where do you think people who work in Tysons, Fairfax etc choose to live? Capitol Hill? Such a silly thread. As people aged they sold land to developers who might have built unappealing properties OR builders did stuff near route 7 etc. No one in GF's is surprised that certain things sit...

You seem to be in denial about exactly how much is just sitting in Great Falls now. The ratio of listed houses to houses under contract is extremely high. It's not just a few unappealing properties, but hundreds of homes that can't find buyers.

35 pending, 229 active, minimum 5 under contract removed from MRIS. 25 to be built or under construction. Plus over 55 of the listings are land only. People are aging and selling.

Well this thread turned into a high school girl pissing contest.......

Weather is great outside people. Stop attacking each other over nothing on an anonymous message board.

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Anonymous wrote:When did this thread turn into an Arlington/Lower McLean trollfest?

The lower McLean thing is not working...

The weekly McLean posts are not working, either.

It's hilarious that they get under your skin so much. The closer-in suburbs will always get more attention on this forum than Great Falls or Poolesville.

Can you tell me why someone who does not work in DC or the immediate surrounds would choose to live in north Arlington? Seems to me the reverse commute would take some time, esp. if they worked tech in the Dulles Corridor.

The problem with you Fed weenies is you really don't understand that there are actual jobs outside of Federal government

So a professor who teaches at Georgetown and lives in Arlington is a "Fed weenie" but some private-sector government contractor who lives in Great Falls is not? Not following the logic here and suspect it's just intended as a diversion from the thread, which is about how and why Great Falls has become comparatively less desirable and more affordable.

the idiots who spew about Great Falls being too far out doesn't really understand there are actual jobs out here. Actual companies that hire people. And pay them! Imagine that!!

you mean jobs at Giant?

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Anonymous wrote:When did this thread turn into an Arlington/Lower McLean trollfest?

The lower McLean thing is not working...

The weekly McLean posts are not working, either.

It's hilarious that they get under your skin so much. The closer-in suburbs will always get more attention on this forum than Great Falls or Poolesville.

Can you tell me why someone who does not work in DC or the immediate surrounds would choose to live in north Arlington? Seems to me the reverse commute would take some time, esp. if they worked tech in the Dulles Corridor.

The problem with you Fed weenies is you really don't understand that there are actual jobs outside of Federal government

So a professor who teaches at Georgetown and lives in Arlington is a "Fed weenie" but some private-sector government contractor who lives in Great Falls is not? Not following the logic here and suspect it's just intended as a diversion from the thread, which is about how and why Great Falls has become comparatively less desirable and more affordable.

the idiots who spew about Great Falls being too far out doesn't really understand there are actual jobs out here. Actual companies that hire people. And pay them! Imagine that!!

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Anonymous wrote:True. Commute in GF is really only bad during typical rush hour.

Unfortunately rush hour is 9am through 6pm everyday

I'm not sure what you are talking about. I live in GF, and the bottleneck for my commute is McLean. It takes me ten minutes to get to Tysons or McLean, then I hit the same bottleneck everyone else in McLean hits. On the way home, I try to avoid McLean altogether. Tysons is no big deal. I often pick my kids up from school in GF during rush hour, and then head down to Tysons to run errands before heading back home.

Commuting from McLean, whether to DC, Tysons or Bethesda, is much better than commuting from Great Falls. Everyone knows this, despite the PP's efforts to claim otherwise. It is just one reason why prices is McLean inside the Beltway have appreciated over three times as much as prices in Great Falls since 2004 (30% vs. 9%).

123 from downtown Mclean is horrible. Western Mclean towards GF is a better commute to Tysons. Some areas of Mclean [Summerwood] near the rec center are practically in Tysons. There's a lot of people from MD and DC crossing through Mclean joining the Tysons commute. Mclean covers a lot of territory as does Great Falls and there are dramatically different commutes within those areas.

123 doesn't even go through downtown McLean, but commuting on 123 coming from downtown McLean is a relative breeze compared to going anywhere from Great Falls, not to mention that you're fairly close to two Metro stations (McLean and West Falls Church). Of course, if you live somewhere in 22102 near Great Falls, you may have a longer commute. The key is to be east of Tysons if you want to have an easier commute, and more commuting options.

If you take Old Dominion into McLean, and continue straight, it will take you into North Arlington, through downtown McLean. I don't give a crap what you call the road,as the name changes. In some areas it's 123. And it's not horrible. I've done it in rush hour.

Safe track metro starts this weekend.
In the next year, I reckon I smell a Great Falls comeback with more employers adding flexible work arrangements.

On the other hand, if you can't do flex, you are doubly screwed during Safe Track if you live in Great Falls, so it's at best a wash. I expect the experience will make many people appreciate good public transportation options even more.

So GF residents don't expect to scrounge for breathing room in their neighborhood or have fear taking out the dog at 11 pm. Just where do you think people who work in Tysons, Fairfax etc choose to live? Capitol Hill? Such a silly thread. As people aged they sold land to developers who might have built unappealing properties OR builders did stuff near route 7 etc. No one in GF's is surprised that certain things sit...

You seem to be in denial about exactly how much is just sitting in Great Falls now. The ratio of listed houses to houses under contract is extremely high. It's not just a few unappealing properties, but hundreds of homes that can't find buyers.

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Anonymous wrote:True. Commute in GF is really only bad during typical rush hour.

Unfortunately rush hour is 9am through 6pm everyday

I'm not sure what you are talking about. I live in GF, and the bottleneck for my commute is McLean. It takes me ten minutes to get to Tysons or McLean, then I hit the same bottleneck everyone else in McLean hits. On the way home, I try to avoid McLean altogether. Tysons is no big deal. I often pick my kids up from school in GF during rush hour, and then head down to Tysons to run errands before heading back home.

Commuting from McLean, whether to DC, Tysons or Bethesda, is much better than commuting from Great Falls. Everyone knows this, despite the PP's efforts to claim otherwise. It is just one reason why prices is McLean inside the Beltway have appreciated over three times as much as prices in Great Falls since 2004 (30% vs. 9%).

123 from downtown Mclean is horrible. Western Mclean towards GF is a better commute to Tysons. Some areas of Mclean [Summerwood] near the rec center are practically in Tysons. There's a lot of people from MD and DC crossing through Mclean joining the Tysons commute. Mclean covers a lot of territory as does Great Falls and there are dramatically different commutes within those areas.

123 doesn't even go through downtown McLean, but commuting on 123 coming from downtown McLean is a relative breeze compared to going anywhere from Great Falls, not to mention that you're fairly close to two Metro stations (McLean and West Falls Church). Of course, if you live somewhere in 22102 near Great Falls, you may have a longer commute. The key is to be east of Tysons if you want to have an easier commute, and more commuting options.

If you take Old Dominion into McLean, and continue straight, it will take you into North Arlington, through downtown McLean. I don't give a crap what you call the road,as the name changes. In some areas it's 123. And it's not horrible. I've done it in rush hour.

Safe track metro starts this weekend.
In the next year, I reckon I smell a Great Falls comeback with more employers adding flexible work arrangements.

On the other hand, if you can't do flex, you are doubly screwed during Safe Track if you live in Great Falls, so it's at best a wash. I expect the experience will make many people appreciate good public transportation options even more.

So GF residents don't expect to scrounge for breathing room in their neighborhood or have fear taking out the dog at 11 pm. Just where do you think people who work in Tysons, Fairfax etc choose to live? Capitol Hill? Such a silly thread. As people aged they sold land to developers who might have built unappealing properties OR builders did stuff near route 7 etc. No one in GF's is surprised that certain things sit...

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Anonymous wrote:True. Commute in GF is really only bad during typical rush hour.

Unfortunately rush hour is 9am through 6pm everyday

I'm not sure what you are talking about. I live in GF, and the bottleneck for my commute is McLean. It takes me ten minutes to get to Tysons or McLean, then I hit the same bottleneck everyone else in McLean hits. On the way home, I try to avoid McLean altogether. Tysons is no big deal. I often pick my kids up from school in GF during rush hour, and then head down to Tysons to run errands before heading back home.

You've just described my own personal hell.

Maybe a start would be to widen Georgetown Pike. It's crazy that the major artery through Great Falls is such a narrow road. I guess you'd end up with more of the traffic on Route 7 from Loudoun diverting onto 193 but it is such a painful slog now. It definitely takes more than an hour to get downtown from most of Great Falls during rush hour.

Life doesn't revolve around DC. I go only when guests visit.

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Anonymous wrote:True. Commute in GF is really only bad during typical rush hour.

Unfortunately rush hour is 9am through 6pm everyday

I'm not sure what you are talking about. I live in GF, and the bottleneck for my commute is McLean. It takes me ten minutes to get to Tysons or McLean, then I hit the same bottleneck everyone else in McLean hits. On the way home, I try to avoid McLean altogether. Tysons is no big deal. I often pick my kids up from school in GF during rush hour, and then head down to Tysons to run errands before heading back home.

You've just described my own personal hell.

Maybe a start would be to widen Georgetown Pike. It's crazy that the major artery through Great Falls is such a narrow road. I guess you'd end up with more of the traffic on Route 7 from Loudoun diverting onto 193 but it is such a painful slog now. It definitely takes more than an hour to get downtown from most of Great Falls during rush hour.

Life doesn't revolve around DC. I go only when guests visit.

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Anonymous wrote:When did this thread turn into an Arlington/Lower McLean trollfest?

The lower McLean thing is not working...

The weekly McLean posts are not working, either.

It's hilarious that they get under your skin so much. The closer-in suburbs will always get more attention on this forum than Great Falls or Poolesville.

Can you tell me why someone who does not work in DC or the immediate surrounds would choose to live in north Arlington? Seems to me the reverse commute would take some time, esp. if they worked tech in the Dulles Corridor.

The problem with you Fed weenies is you really don't understand that there are actual jobs outside of Federal government

So a professor who teaches at Georgetown and lives in Arlington is a "Fed weenie" but some private-sector government contractor who lives in Great Falls is not? Not following the logic here and suspect it's just intended as a diversion from the thread, which is about how and why Great Falls has become comparatively less desirable and more affordable.

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Anonymous wrote:True. Commute in GF is really only bad during typical rush hour.

Unfortunately rush hour is 9am through 6pm everyday

I'm not sure what you are talking about. I live in GF, and the bottleneck for my commute is McLean. It takes me ten minutes to get to Tysons or McLean, then I hit the same bottleneck everyone else in McLean hits. On the way home, I try to avoid McLean altogether. Tysons is no big deal. I often pick my kids up from school in GF during rush hour, and then head down to Tysons to run errands before heading back home.

Commuting from McLean, whether to DC, Tysons or Bethesda, is much better than commuting from Great Falls. Everyone knows this, despite the PP's efforts to claim otherwise. It is just one reason why prices is McLean inside the Beltway have appreciated over three times as much as prices in Great Falls since 2004 (30% vs. 9%).

123 from downtown Mclean is horrible. Western Mclean towards GF is a better commute to Tysons. Some areas of Mclean [Summerwood] near the rec center are practically in Tysons. There's a lot of people from MD and DC crossing through Mclean joining the Tysons commute. Mclean covers a lot of territory as does Great Falls and there are dramatically different commutes within those areas.

123 doesn't even go through downtown McLean, but commuting on 123 coming from downtown McLean is a relative breeze compared to going anywhere from Great Falls, not to mention that you're fairly close to two Metro stations (McLean and West Falls Church). Of course, if you live somewhere in 22102 near Great Falls, you may have a longer commute. The key is to be east of Tysons if you want to have an easier commute, and more commuting options.

If you take Old Dominion into McLean, and continue straight, it will take you into North Arlington, through downtown McLean. I don't give a crap what you call the road,as the name changes. In some areas it's 123. And it's not horrible. I've done it in rush hour.

Safe track metro starts this weekend.
In the next year, I reckon I smell a Great Falls comeback with more employers adding flexible work arrangements.

On the other hand, if you can't do flex, you are doubly screwed during Safe Track if you live in Great Falls, so it's at best a wash. I expect the experience will make many people appreciate good public transportation options even more.

Know what makes lots of sense? Having the government force people to by only hybrids or carpool! Right?

Anonymous wrote:Great Falls fire sale

http://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Great-Falls-VA/51711987_zpid/18373_rid/1300000-1600000_price/4635-5705_mp/any_days/39.056184,-77.197237,38.950932,-77.410269_rect/12_zm/

You missed something,.

"Price based on Starting Price of Clifton I Model house only. Lot is separately sold and price is $1.5M."

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Anonymous wrote:When did this thread turn into an Arlington/Lower McLean trollfest?

The lower McLean thing is not working...

The weekly McLean posts are not working, either.

It's hilarious that they get under your skin so much. The closer-in suburbs will always get more attention on this forum than Great Falls or Poolesville.

Can you tell me why someone who does not work in DC or the immediate surrounds would choose to live in north Arlington? Seems to me the reverse commute would take some time, esp. if they worked tech in the Dulles Corridor.

The problem with you Fed weenies is you really don't understand that there are actual jobs outside of Federal government

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Anonymous wrote:True. Commute in GF is really only bad during typical rush hour.

Unfortunately rush hour is 9am through 6pm everyday

I'm not sure what you are talking about. I live in GF, and the bottleneck for my commute is McLean. It takes me ten minutes to get to Tysons or McLean, then I hit the same bottleneck everyone else in McLean hits. On the way home, I try to avoid McLean altogether. Tysons is no big deal. I often pick my kids up from school in GF during rush hour, and then head down to Tysons to run errands before heading back home.

Commuting from McLean, whether to DC, Tysons or Bethesda, is much better than commuting from Great Falls. Everyone knows this, despite the PP's efforts to claim otherwise. It is just one reason why prices is McLean inside the Beltway have appreciated over three times as much as prices in Great Falls since 2004 (30% vs. 9%).

123 from downtown Mclean is horrible. Western Mclean towards GF is a better commute to Tysons. Some areas of Mclean [Summerwood] near the rec center are practically in Tysons. There's a lot of people from MD and DC crossing through Mclean joining the Tysons commute. Mclean covers a lot of territory as does Great Falls and there are dramatically different commutes within those areas.

123 doesn't even go through downtown McLean, but commuting on 123 coming from downtown McLean is a relative breeze compared to going anywhere from Great Falls, not to mention that you're fairly close to two Metro stations (McLean and West Falls Church). Of course, if you live somewhere in 22102 near Great Falls, you may have a longer commute. The key is to be east of Tysons if you want to have an easier commute, and more commuting options.

If you take Old Dominion into McLean, and continue straight, it will take you into North Arlington, through downtown McLean. I don't give a crap what you call the road,as the name changes. In some areas it's 123. And it's not horrible. I've done it in rush hour.

Route 123 has lots of names, but at no point does it go through downtown McLean or is it called Old Dominion.

You're right - Old Dominion comes off of Georgetown Pike, crosses 123, and cuts through part of downtown Mclean then on to Arlington, where it dead-ends at Glebe.

Anonymous wrote:Re: 123 at rush hour. One person's "not bad" is another person's hell.

I was driving on Georgetown Pike going west just 1/2 hour ago. 90% of the cars in the traffic going east towards the beltway had DC or MD plates. Rather than widen the road, I would make it VA drivers only, forcing MD and DC traffic onto Route 7 to hit the toll road to the Beltway or take it through Tysons to the beltway.

Given how much MD and DC residents hate VA, but come over the bridge because their liberal policies force companies to leave and set up shop in VA, why should we Virginians put up with their smack talk AND their traffic? Plenty of Virginians can fill those jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:True. Commute in GF is really only bad during typical rush hour.

Unfortunately rush hour is 9am through 6pm everyday

I'm not sure what you are talking about. I live in GF, and the bottleneck for my commute is McLean. It takes me ten minutes to get to Tysons or McLean, then I hit the same bottleneck everyone else in McLean hits. On the way home, I try to avoid McLean altogether. Tysons is no big deal. I often pick my kids up from school in GF during rush hour, and then head down to Tysons to run errands before heading back home.

Commuting from McLean, whether to DC, Tysons or Bethesda, is much better than commuting from Great Falls. Everyone knows this, despite the PP's efforts to claim otherwise. It is just one reason why prices is McLean inside the Beltway have appreciated over three times as much as prices in Great Falls since 2004 (30% vs. 9%).

123 from downtown Mclean is horrible. Western Mclean towards GF is a better commute to Tysons. Some areas of Mclean [Summerwood] near the rec center are practically in Tysons. There's a lot of people from MD and DC crossing through Mclean joining the Tysons commute. Mclean covers a lot of territory as does Great Falls and there are dramatically different commutes within those areas.

123 doesn't even go through downtown McLean, but commuting on 123 coming from downtown McLean is a relative breeze compared to going anywhere from Great Falls, not to mention that you're fairly close to two Metro stations (McLean and West Falls Church). Of course, if you live somewhere in 22102 near Great Falls, you may have a longer commute. The key is to be east of Tysons if you want to have an easier commute, and more commuting options.

If you take Old Dominion into McLean, and continue straight, it will take you into North Arlington, through downtown McLean. I don't give a crap what you call the road,as the name changes. In some areas it's 123. And it's not horrible. I've done it in rush hour.

Route 123 has lots of names, but at no point does it go through downtown McLean or is it called Old Dominion.