Anonymous
11/18/2015 19:26
Subject: Has Yale Become a PC Joke?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Gotta a love a post that supports free speech by urging the expulsion of students who exercise it!
This is not about free speech. It is about respect. If you cannot be in an academic environment without swearing and threatening the staff, then you do not belong there.
I think you mistake liberty for license.
+1
Anonymous
11/18/2015 16:14
Subject: Re:Has Yale Become a PC Joke?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Breaking News: Looks like the students got most of what they demanded - http://www.boston.com/news/education/2015/11/17/yale-president-responds-student-demands/zOJkcdZKtIFEyZCym0xZxM/story.html
Not really, and some of these things would have happened without Shreiking Yale Girl screaming "fuck" at the Silliman master, whom Yale did not agree to replace. So the spoiled little brats can mull that over for a while.
right. They got some of what they wanted, and the uni will probably give the a slow roll on the rest
them
Anonymous
11/18/2015 16:14
Subject: Re:Has Yale Become a PC Joke?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Breaking News: Looks like the students got most of what they demanded - http://www.boston.com/news/education/2015/11/17/yale-president-responds-student-demands/zOJkcdZKtIFEyZCym0xZxM/story.html
Not really, and some of these things would have happened without Shreiking Yale Girl screaming "fuck" at the Silliman master, whom Yale did not agree to replace. So the spoiled little brats can mull that over for a while.
right. They got some of what they wanted, and the uni will probably give the a slow roll on the rest
Anonymous
11/18/2015 16:06
Subject: Re:Has Yale Become a PC Joke?
Anonymous wrote:Breaking News: Looks like the students got most of what they demanded - http://www.boston.com/news/education/2015/11/17/yale-president-responds-student-demands/zOJkcdZKtIFEyZCym0xZxM/story.html
Not really, and some of these things would have happened without Shreiking Yale Girl screaming "fuck" at the Silliman master, whom Yale did not agree to replace. So the spoiled little brats can mull that over for a while.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 14:08
Subject: Has Yale Become a PC Joke?
I don't think the name change is a definite yet. tgere are governing rules and procedures for this sort of stuff that have to be followed. Frankly, if people are going to get all riled up about names, they should take a load of NoVa - tons of schools, streets, buildings, neighborhoods, etc named after southern civil war "Heroes". I personally feel kinda 'whatever' on the subject.... Whether one likes it or not, that was a huge part of VA's history (tho I do think it's weird they're still so proud of it).
Anonymous
11/18/2015 13:51
Subject: Re:Has Yale Become a PC Joke?
I believe the new academic center had been in the works before the recent events. That said, I think the name change (John C. Calhoun) is most definitely a step in the right direction. There isn't one building on any university campus that receives any type of funding (and that includes student loans) that should be named after anyone associated with enslavement or war crimes.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Breaking News: Looks like the students got most of what they demanded - http://www.boston.com/news/education/2015/11/17/yale-president-responds-student-demands/zOJkcdZKtIFEyZCym0xZxM/story.html
The President provided a thoughtful response which granted the protestors reasonable requests that could be accommodated in a short time period, ignored or explicitly denied a few (such as firing the Master and his wife over the Halloween email or building the monument about Yale being on land stolen from indigenous peoples), in significant ways offered alternative approaches to what the students requested that may be more effective or at least possible in the near term, and kept open a dialogue and process for a continuing evaluation of some other issues that can only be addressed by the board (Yale Corporation to which the President answers), the Faculty, or that the President wants input on from a variety of campus communities before deciding on a course of action. Some of the more immediate changes will go into effect in the Spring Semester and others not until the Fall Semester. Interestingly, Yale used this as an occasion to announce a new academic center devoted to the study of race and other social issues impacting underrepresented minorities. At least the initial response judging from on line posts are positive from a large majority of students, although the protest leaders will no doubt keep a close eye on things.
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Anonymous
11/18/2015 13:46
Subject: Re:Has Yale Become a PC Joke?
This is more than just about a Halloween costume! The email was the catalyst. I don't understand why that is so difficult to understand the underlying cause.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Racist actions are no joke...whether it makes you uncomfortable or not. The recipients of those ugly actions have a right to speak out loudly and firmly but not at the expense of harrassment to others which is why the students are speaking out.Anonymous wrote:^^ oh, and I forgot the theoretical wearing of certain Halloween costumes.
The message gets lost when the very treatment they received is inflicted by them on those they're trying to reach. Noticeably, the very rightful issue they march for gets wrongly lost.
an e-mail expressing the opinion that the university should not tell it’s students what kind of Halloween costumes to wear is not a “racist action.” See that’s where I disagree with these radical professional offence takers.
And by the way, I think Ted Cruz is a "radical professional offense taker" though I'm not totally sure what the heck you're talking about. However, taking a stab at the interpretation.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 12:47
Subject: Re:Has Yale Become a PC Joke?
Anonymous wrote:Breaking News: Looks like the students got most of what they demanded - http://www.boston.com/news/education/2015/11/17/yale-president-responds-student-demands/zOJkcdZKtIFEyZCym0xZxM/story.html
The President provided a thoughtful response which granted the protestors reasonable requests that could be accommodated in a short time period, ignored or explicitly denied a few (such as firing the Master and his wife over the Halloween email or building the monument about Yale being on land stolen from indigenous peoples), in significant ways offered alternative approaches to what the students requested that may be more effective or at least possible in the near term, and kept open a dialogue and process for a continuing evaluation of some other issues that can only be addressed by the board (Yale Corporation to which the President answers), the Faculty, or that the President wants input on from a variety of campus communities before deciding on a course of action. Some of the more immediate changes will go into effect in the Spring Semester and others not until the Fall Semester. Interestingly, Yale used this as an occasion to announce a new academic center devoted to the study of race and other social issues impacting underrepresented minorities. At least the initial response judging from on line posts are positive from a large majority of students, although the protest leaders will no doubt keep a close eye on things.
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Anonymous
11/18/2015 12:31
Subject: Re:Has Yale Become a PC Joke?
Breaking News: Looks like the students got most of what they demanded - http://www.boston.com/news/education/2015/11/17/yale-president-responds-student-demands/zOJkcdZKtIFEyZCym0xZxM/story.html
Anonymous
11/18/2015 12:27
Subject: Re:Has Yale Become a PC Joke?
Anonymous wrote:Racist actions are no joke...whether it makes you uncomfortable or not. The recipients of those ugly actions have a right to speak out loudly and firmly but not at the expense of harrassment to others which is why the students are speaking out.Anonymous wrote:^^ oh, and I forgot the theoretical wearing of certain Halloween costumes.
The message gets lost when the very treatment they received is inflicted by them on those they're trying to reach. Noticeably, the very rightful issue they march for gets wrongly lost.
an e-mail expressing the opinion that the university should not tell it’s students what kind of Halloween costumes to wear is not a “racist action.” See that’s where I disagree with these radical professional offence takers.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 11:58
Subject: Re:Has Yale Become a PC Joke?
Racist actions are no joke...whether it makes you uncomfortable or not. The recipients of those ugly actions have a right to speak out loudly and firmly but not at the expense of harrassment to others which is why the students are speaking out.Anonymous wrote:^^ oh, and I forgot the theoretical wearing of certain Halloween costumes.
The message gets lost when the very treatment they received is inflicted by them on those they're trying to reach. Noticeably, the very rightful issue they march for gets wrongly lost.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 11:06
Subject: Has Yale Become a PC Joke?
I thought a library was a place to quietly study? When did proper behavior, rules, and decorum get tossed out the window? These kids may have validity in their message(trying to be fair) but, their message will get lost in its delivery. The kids in the library were in the face of people there, TRYING TO STUDY. Go protest on the campus quad, or, in front of the President's Office or house.
And, if every other group on campus did the same thing, say the same things, and, act the same way, in the library, would they be treated the same way: think, frat brothers, athletes, whatever...the Admin would run them off campus in a nanosecond.
And, if every other group on campus did the same thing, say the same things, and, act the same way, in the library, would they be treated the same way: think, frat brothers, athletes, whatever...the Admin would run them off campus in a nanosecond.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 08:36
Subject: Re:Has Yale Become a PC Joke?
^^ oh, and I forgot the theoretical wearing of certain Halloween costumes.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 08:34
Subject: Has Yale Become a PC Joke?
Anonymous wrote:I have to agree. As much as someone may dislike the message (different strokes for different folks), the First Amendment protects that right. Anybody ever wonder why the Westboro 'church' has been able to proceed with their despicable antics? Freedom of speech but no physical confrontation regardless how heinous the message.Anonymous wrote:Yelling fuck and calling the police pigs was very fashionable in my day. I really believe people are over reacting to a few individuals behavior.
Students who demonstrate because they demand boston creme pie? Silly? Yes. Allowed to assemble? Yes. Allowed to voice their opinions loudly? Yes. Allowed to smash those pies in students faces as they make their demands? Hell, no!! That's when the line is crossed and punitive action is rightfully warranted.
yeah, but we were protesting the Vietnam war. They’re protesting micro aggression, cultural appropriation, insensitivity, not being “safe” from upsetting remarks.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 05:41
Subject: Has Yale Become a PC Joke?
I have to agree. As much as someone may dislike the message (different strokes for different folks), the First Amendment protects that right. Anybody ever wonder why the Westboro 'church' has been able to proceed with their despicable antics? Freedom of speech but no physical confrontation regardless how heinous the message.Anonymous wrote:Yelling fuck and calling the police pigs was very fashionable in my day. I really believe people are over reacting to a few individuals behavior.
Students who demonstrate because they demand boston creme pie? Silly? Yes. Allowed to assemble? Yes. Allowed to voice their opinions loudly? Yes. Allowed to smash those pies in students faces as they make their demands? Hell, no!! That's when the line is crossed and punitive action is rightfully warranted.