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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of your feelings about this, please, please teach your kids to obey the police immediately in such a situation in as non-threatening way as possible. Teach them to lay down on the ground and put their hands up where the cops can see it.

This could have become a tragedy. Please teach your kids to do everything to deescalate the situation.

I agree. While I didn't see the video, someone told me that he watched the whole video (not just the clip media is showing) and the bikini girl was fighting back with the officer, was kicking and resisting quite a bit. A second kid approached the officer who was trying to detain bikini girl with his hands up AS IF he was about to attack (or push?? ) the officer I think that's when you start to see the upheaval that all the media keeps posting - that officer pulling gun on the second kid (which I think is wrong) and then that kid goes running.

While the video is bad, I think we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that there's a sense of resisting arrest, fighting back and overall disregard for officers - it's getting pretty ugly (on both the police side and the civilian side) out there.

You need to see the video before you post an opinion. Girl was not fighting back. Now she did somewhat pull away from the officer once he grabbed her, but she did that because he GRABBED at her. His way pf restraining her was not done is such a way that she could react any other way. A teenage girl in a bikini is not going to let any grown man police or not, grab at her they way that he did. She was not kicking. She was trying to get away.

I still can not believe how many of you are defending this policeman. It is so sad that you view AA children as animals that have to be lassoed in. If this was a teenage girl was of any other race, you would view this video in a different light. Just admit it. If it was a little small teenage Asian girl, white girl or even Latino/Hispanic girl, you you would not be so quick to blame her for mouthing off. She was pulled to the ground and a knee was placed on her back! She was calling for her mother! what do you expect for a teenager. I know many you like to believe that all black people have had confrontations with the police, but we have not. She was probably scared. My 12 year would run for her life if this happened to her (now she wouldn't because I've had to have "the talk"). She has never had any contact with a policeman, never seen the inside of a courtroom.

It's just so sad that you all see us as all animals. These are teenagers who make bad decisions, the grown-ups are supposed to know better, be better, act better. It is so disappointing. It is really making me re-think my view of white Americans. Starting to see yo all as one big racist group. It really makes me sad.

I see, you are proposing a new constitutional amendment.

28th amendment: No person of the female gender, between the ages of 8 and 18, and wearing a bikini, shall ever be arrested, or touched. Authorities will ensure that every police car, motorbike, bike, boat and horse carries an assortment of well-fitting clothes, in multiple colors, styles and sizes, for any said person of the female gender wearing a bikini to select and dress up, before being arrested or touched.

I know you think this response is really clever and witty, but it's not. These are issues that AA parents have to face every single day. This little, useless comment (and it was indeed little and useless) really shows that for other races, it's not concerning. It's just something you can laugh about and attempt clever comments. I, on the other hand have to deal with my 12 year old AA daughter who told me today that she may be uninvited to a swim party of a "supposed" white friend because white friend thought she (my daughter) would cause the police to show up to her community pool because she's (white friend) never seen AA's at her community pool.

Lady, you are truly demanding. But, OK, here it goes:

28th amendment: No person of the female gender and of color, between the ages of 8 and 18, wearing a bikini and shouting for her mama to help, shall ever be arrested, or touched. Authorities will ensure that every police car, motorbike, bike, boat and horse carries 1. an assortment of well-fitting clothes, in multiple colors, styles and sizes, and 2. videoconference equipment, with every mama in the country in speed dial, for any said person of the female gender and of color wearing a bikini and shouting for her mama to help to select and dress up, and discuss matters with her mama, before being arrested or touched.

(My DAUGHTERS are not white. And they have no problem dealing with the police, or with "supposed" friends. They know their behavior matters. They don't trespass other people's properties, jump over fences, engage in physical altercations with neighbors, or ignore police requests. If some other "supposed" friends cancel an invitation, they play with someone else.

We are not drama people)

You know I am demanding. I demand that my public servants treat all people with respect. I don't joke about it. Your continued lack of cleverness and comments along these lines is just sad. Whatever race you are, I glad the bubble you live in keeps your sweet daughters safe and so easily able to play with others when confronted with prejudice. It must be so nice for you and your sweet non-white daughters.

Then teach your sorry ass kids to behave respectfully-do not cuss at the police, do as you are told, do not jump over fences to gain access to a private pool, do not violate HOA rules and invite 130 kids to a pool when you have no right to do so, and after you break all the rules and regulations----PLEASE DO NOT pull your sorry ass RACE CARD!!!!

The race card must be pulled. If that were a white girl no way that cop would have attacked her like that. Whites have had a longgggg history of abusing, raping, and murdering black people and every other race across the planet. So hell yes the race card will be pulled. Whites have such a bad history with blacks, we have very little way of determining if this was race based or not. But based on white people's history with blacks, I'm inclined to believe that yes it was race based.

Especially since we have a WHITE WOMAN who started this whole debacle and called those kids the n word and told them to go back to their section 8 neighborhood. It's plenty of racist white people around. Whites are just pissed their racism is on display worldwide for everyone to see. And yes I know not all whites are racist, but I believe a large portion still are.

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Anonymous wrote:Regardless of your feelings about this, please, please teach your kids to obey the police immediately in such a situation in as non-threatening way as possible. Teach them to lay down on the ground and put their hands up where the cops can see it.

This could have become a tragedy. Please teach your kids to do everything to deescalate the situation.

I agree. While I didn't see the video, someone told me that he watched the whole video (not just the clip media is showing) and the bikini girl was fighting back with the officer, was kicking and resisting quite a bit. A second kid approached the officer who was trying to detain bikini girl with his hands up AS IF he was about to attack (or push?? ) the officer I think that's when you start to see the upheaval that all the media keeps posting - that officer pulling gun on the second kid (which I think is wrong) and then that kid goes running.

While the video is bad, I think we shouldn't lose sight of the fact that there's a sense of resisting arrest, fighting back and overall disregard for officers - it's getting pretty ugly (on both the police side and the civilian side) out there.

You need to see the video before you post an opinion. Girl was not fighting back. Now she did somewhat pull away from the officer once he grabbed her, but she did that because he GRABBED at her. His way pf restraining her was not done is such a way that she could react any other way. A teenage girl in a bikini is not going to let any grown man police or not, grab at her they way that he did. She was not kicking. She was trying to get away.

I still can not believe how many of you are defending this policeman. It is so sad that you view AA children as animals that have to be lassoed in. If this was a teenage girl was of any other race, you would view this video in a different light. Just admit it. If it was a little small teenage Asian girl, white girl or even Latino/Hispanic girl, you you would not be so quick to blame her for mouthing off. She was pulled to the ground and a knee was placed on her back! She was calling for her mother! what do you expect for a teenager. I know many you like to believe that all black people have had confrontations with the police, but we have not. She was probably scared. My 12 year would run for her life if this happened to her (now she wouldn't because I've had to have "the talk"). She has never had any contact with a policeman, never seen the inside of a courtroom.

It's just so sad that you all see us as all animals. These are teenagers who make bad decisions, the grown-ups are supposed to know better, be better, act better. It is so disappointing. It is really making me re-think my view of white Americans. Starting to see yo all as one big racist group. It really makes me sad.

I see, you are proposing a new constitutional amendment.

28th amendment: No person of the female gender, between the ages of 8 and 18, and wearing a bikini, shall ever be arrested, or touched. Authorities will ensure that every police car, motorbike, bike, boat and horse carries an assortment of well-fitting clothes, in multiple colors, styles and sizes, for any said person of the female gender wearing a bikini to select and dress up, before being arrested or touched.

I know you think this response is really clever and witty, but it's not. These are issues that AA parents have to face every single day. This little, useless comment (and it was indeed little and useless) really shows that for other races, it's not concerning. It's just something you can laugh about and attempt clever comments. I, on the other hand have to deal with my 12 year old AA daughter who told me today that she may be uninvited to a swim party of a "supposed" white friend because white friend thought she (my daughter) would cause the police to show up to her community pool because she's (white friend) never seen AA's at her community pool.

Lady, you are truly demanding. But, OK, here it goes:

28th amendment: No person of the female gender and of color, between the ages of 8 and 18, wearing a bikini and shouting for her mama to help, shall ever be arrested, or touched. Authorities will ensure that every police car, motorbike, bike, boat and horse carries 1. an assortment of well-fitting clothes, in multiple colors, styles and sizes, and 2. videoconference equipment, with every mama in the country in speed dial, for any said person of the female gender and of color wearing a bikini and shouting for her mama to help to select and dress up, and discuss matters with her mama, before being arrested or touched.

(My DAUGHTERS are not white. And they have no problem dealing with the police, or with "supposed" friends. They know their behavior matters. They don't trespass other people's properties, jump over fences, engage in physical altercations with neighbors, or ignore police requests. If some other "supposed" friends cancel an invitation, they play with someone else.

We are not drama people)

You know I am demanding. I demand that my public servants treat all people with respect. I don't joke about it. Your continued lack of cleverness and comments along these lines is just sad. Whatever race you are, I glad the bubble you live in keeps your sweet daughters safe and so easily able to play with others when confronted with prejudice. It must be so nice for you and your sweet non-white daughters.

Then teach your sorry ass kids to behave respectfully-do not cuss at the police, do as you are told, do not jump over fences to gain access to a private pool, do not violate HOA rules and invite 130 kids to a pool when you have no right to do so, and after you break all the rules and regulations----PLEASE DO NOT pull your sorry ass RACE CARD!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Why wasn't the white woman who started the fight and started yelling obscenities at these children arrested?

Because these weren't children and she wasn't resisting the police.

A 14 year old is a child. Only a disgusting perv would think otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:I can barely follow this argument anymore. Seems like the subject of the thread isn't even being discussed anymore, its like playing telephone.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wasn't the white woman who started the fight and started yelling obscenities at these children arrested?

Because these weren't children and she wasn't resisting the police.

Anonymous wrote:I can barely follow this argument anymore. Seems like the subject of the thread isn't even being discussed anymore, its like playing telephone.

Anonymous wrote:DH is a LEO (who happens to be White) and he said that anyone who thinks the officer handled this properly is as looney as a toon. He said you should take your clue from the other officers who, facing the SAME situation, handled the situation differently. He also said this his department (suburban county) would have an internal discussion about why mostly Black and Latino kids were "detained." He also said that those officers would almost certainly be reprimanded for allowing civilians (the fat guy) to assist them in the manner shown on the video.

As far as the "mouthing off" discussion, DH said that hands down the mouthiest teens that he has encountered are rich White teens.

DH views this situation the same as the many out of control house parties with underage drinking that he has to break up in the suburbs. What happened here is no worse than that.

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Anonymous wrote:The point is-Parents need to take responsibility for their poorly behaved kids-the girl in the video deserved to be taken down-she should have shut the fuck up and left when told-sadly she happened to be black-so now it is a race thing-"my baby aint to nuffin" she was just going to take a swim in a pool she likely had no right to be at-sonow mamma's gonna sue the po'lice for racism and get some money and Dejerricca will never learn any respect cause her momma (and sadly a god bunch of society), just gave her the message that you can be rewarded for lawbreaking if you just pull the race card!

+1. And, once you get used to the easy race card, and you use it time and again, it becomes a dependency like any other.

Anonymous wrote:The real sad thing is these kids do not seem like "Ghetto" kids-the ones who spoke sound well spoken and are likely from the area which is a middle class town. They are not "street thugs", and yet they still behave unlawfully and disrespectfully. This is not a race thing at this point, it is a cultural thing! Similarly in PG county, there is a ton of wealth, and a ton of middle class-yet the schools remain horrible and it is pretty much a crime ridden unsafe place. How does one explain that-is it a lack of regard for obeying laws, is the money obtained unlawfully, or is is just a class/not race thing?

Anonymous wrote:I can barely follow this argument anymore. Seems like the subject of the thread isn't even being discussed anymore, its like playing telephone.

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Anonymous wrote:Disclaimer: I do NOT condone the officer being so forceful with the girl. He was certainly wrong here. However.... Just out of curiosity...
It's been said many times in this thread that "I expect a teenager to act like this or that". When did we as a society (and parents) come to accept our children being disrespectful to any adult? I'm not that old but I remember growing up I was expected to behave and act a certain way, particularly in public. At what point did age become an acceptable excuse for an ill behaved child? When I was a 14 year old girl and stepped out of line, my parents started their famous lecture with 'You're 14, you should know better.'

Please don't take this as if I'm saying Black kids are disrespectful. White kids are as well. It seems to be with a lot youths these days. This is merely a legitimate question that I'm curious about. When did we, as parents become accepting of poor behavior?

Because "black babies" (aka 12-19 year olds) can do no wrong, and if they do it's because of racism. Sort of like the reverse "affluenza" dfense. It is wrong and when these ill behaved kids grow up with a sense of entitlement and disregard for the law and the greater good of society, we are all in trouble.

Must be the dumbest ass assertion I have read here all day. Throwing out these generalization instead of actually sticking to facts is a weak way to make a non-existent point.

Just be quiet and raise your kids right-teach them respect regardless of the color they are!

You must be related to honey boo boo. You have the same thought mentality as her mom.

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Anonymous wrote:Disclaimer: I do NOT condone the officer being so forceful with the girl. He was certainly wrong here. However.... Just out of curiosity...
It's been said many times in this thread that "I expect a teenager to act like this or that". When did we as a society (and parents) come to accept our children being disrespectful to any adult? I'm not that old but I remember growing up I was expected to behave and act a certain way, particularly in public. At what point did age become an acceptable excuse for an ill behaved child? When I was a 14 year old girl and stepped out of line, my parents started their famous lecture with 'You're 14, you should know better.'

Please don't take this as if I'm saying Black kids are disrespectful. White kids are as well. It seems to be with a lot youths these days. This is merely a legitimate question that I'm curious about. When did we, as parents become accepting of poor behavior?

Because "black babies" (aka 12-19 year olds) can do no wrong, and if they do it's because of racism. Sort of like the reverse "affluenza" dfense. It is wrong and when these ill behaved kids grow up with a sense of entitlement and disregard for the law and the greater good of society, we are all in trouble.

Must be the dumbest ass assertion I have read here all day. Throwing out these generalization instead of actually sticking to facts is a weak way to make a non-existent point.

Just be quiet and raise your kids right-teach them respect regardless of the color they are!

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Anonymous wrote:I think all sides are blowing this out of proportion. It wasn't a brutal arrest, it wasn't a scary mob. These weren't children, they weren't thugs either. I also don't know why everything has to turn into a viscous fight about race.

Because it makes them feel less guilty for being born white.

Complete stupidity