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Anonymous wrote:I don't think Josh is a pedophile. I think he was a teen in a fucked up environment that acted out. My sorry for him is tiny compared to the girls he touched but I do feel sorry for him none the less. I feel like he is a victim of Got hard and his parents.

Look at the Arndt family(same cult as Duggars), grown sons (one nearing 40), not allowed to move out or date because their parents haven't approved a courtship yet. I can imagine a man in his 30s that has never even been alone with a woman has a pretty mentally unhealthy thought process.

I read somewhere that these large isolated families have significantly higher rates of incest. However, most of his victims were prepubescent, some very young. Curiosity with a relative of similar age doesn't sound outrageous, but with a preschooler it does.

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Anonymous wrote:The PR statement from josh is very carefully worded. In their world, "counseling" doesn't mean therapy with a licensed practitioner.

Jim bob told the police in 2006 that they sent josh to a counseling program in 2004. Then Michelle said no, it was actually just staying with a family friend doing a renovation project.

Yes, I read this too. Evidently Jim Bob and Michelle weren't comfortable with mainstream counseling programs because they felt it would expose Josh to things they didn't agree with. Instead, they sent him to do some kind of manual labor. And then there was the stern talking to by that cop friend of theirs who was later convicted and sentenced to a long prison term for child porn.

I think that's a very rational and real fear, honestly. A lot of kids leave juvenile detention worse than when they entered. However, they didn't get him any real counseling, either.

They made a lot of changes after they found out, including separating the children by sex (and separating Josh entirely in his own room), bringing cameras in to the house, etc. They tried to marry him off young, and that fell through. Eventually they found him a wife, who is (so far) sticking by him.

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Anonymous wrote:The PR statement from josh is very carefully worded. In their world, "counseling" doesn't mean therapy with a licensed practitioner.

Jim bob told the police in 2006 that they sent josh to a counseling program in 2004. Then Michelle said no, it was actually just staying with a family friend doing a renovation project.

Yes, I read this too. Evidently Jim Bob and Michelle weren't comfortable with mainstream counseling programs because they felt it would expose Josh to things they didn't agree with. Instead, they sent him to do some kind of manual labor. And then there was the stern talking to by that cop friend of theirs who was later convicted and sentenced to a long prison term for child porn.

Anonymous wrote:On the finale, Michelle discussed her infamous "lawn mowing in a bikini" and literally said that when women dress immodestly and stir up desires in men that can't be fulfilled, it is the woman's fault. Pre-scandal I was thinking that is no different than what we hear from other strict religions, and how their daughters must feel blamed all the time.

Then this news comes along. I cannot imagine how much guilt those girls must have piled on them. No wonder poor Jinger was crying at the wedding saying she was not worthy. This is just so sad.

Anonymous wrote:The PR statement from josh is very carefully worded. In their world, "counseling" doesn't mean therapy with a licensed practitioner.

Jim bob told the police in 2006 that they sent josh to a counseling program in 2004. Then Michelle said no, it was actually just staying with a family friend doing a renovation project.

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Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who thinks its not that big of a deal. Yes it was wrong but he was a teenager. Seems like they did a lot right, got counseling. Should he have been arrested and sentenced to life in prison? I think not, he was a kid he made a mistake. Learn and move on.

This is seriously disturbing. It IS a big deal. Good grief.

I'm a big duggar fan and this doesn't change my views on them at all. Yes I was shocked to learn this but then I thought. Well everyone is human, everyone makes mistakes. I've made plenty in my life. I'm very glad they owned up to it and didn't deny these claims. Owning your mistakes is crucial and to me shows that they are human with flaws.

Yeah, once they knew the shit was about to hit the fan. Hard to deny something with police reports ready to be published.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think Josh is a pedophile. I think he was a teen in a fucked up environment that acted out. My sorry for him is tiny compared to the girls he touched but I do feel sorry for him none the less. I feel like he is a victim of Got hard and his parents.

Look at the Arndt family(same cult as Duggars), grown sons (one nearing 40), not allowed to move out or date because their parents haven't approved a courtship yet. I can imagine a man in his 30s that has never even been alone with a woman has a pretty mentally unhealthy thought process.

I read somewhere that these large isolated families have significantly higher rates of incest. However, most of his victims were prepubescent, some very young. Curiosity with a relative of similar age doesn't sound outrageous, but with a preschooler it does.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who thinks its not that big of a deal. Yes it was wrong but he was a teenager. Seems like they did a lot right, got counseling. Should he have been arrested and sentenced to life in prison? I think not, he was a kid he made a mistake. Learn and move on.

This is seriously disturbing. It IS a big deal. Good grief.

I'm a big duggar fan and this doesn't change my views on them at all. Yes I was shocked to learn this but then I thought. Well everyone is human, everyone makes mistakes. I've made plenty in my life. I'm very glad they owned up to it and didn't deny these claims. Owning your mistakes is crucial and to me shows that they are human with flaws.

Anonymous wrote:I don't think Josh is a pedophile. I think he was a teen in a fucked up environment that acted out. My sorry for him is tiny compared to the girls he touched but I do feel sorry for him none the less. I feel like he is a victim of Got hard and his parents.

Look at the Arndt family(same cult as Duggars), grown sons (one nearing 40), not allowed to move out or date because their parents haven't approved a courtship yet. I can imagine a man in his 30s that has never even been alone with a woman has a pretty mentally unhealthy thought process.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Am I the only one who thinks its not that big of a deal. Yes it was wrong but he was a teenager. Seems like they did a lot right, got counseling. Should he have been arrested and sentenced to life in prison? I think not, he was a kid he made a mistake. Learn and move on.

This is seriously disturbing. It IS a big deal. Good grief.

I'm a big duggar fan and this doesn't change my views on them at all. Yes I was shocked to learn this but then I thought. Well everyone is human, everyone makes mistakes. I've made plenty in my life. I'm very glad they owned up to it and didn't deny these claims. Owning your mistakes is crucial and to me shows that they are human with flaws.