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1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 HM
4 Collegiate
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 Chapin
8 Riverdale
9 St Ann's
St B
10 Trevor
11 Fieldston
12 Marymount
St D
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Regis
16 Friends Seminary
16 GCS
17 Packer
Buckley
18 Poly
19 Loyola
20 Avenues
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25 Calhoun
26 Hackley
27 Lycée
28 UNIS
Allen-Stevenson
29 Xavier
30 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
Town
35 Dwight

An improvement, but there are quirks. Collegiate has better exmissions than HM. Few people would put Marymount above Sacred Heart. Regis seems unfairly penalized for being less "upper crust" than the $70k schools. Hackley has become a popular destination for the K-8 boys who don't want a pressure cooker. Exmissions are similar to or slightly better than Fieldston these days. It's not remotely TT, but i in no world is it #36 below Calhoun.

It's not clear if we're comparing K-8 boys with only the K-8 components of the K-12s to make it apples-to-apples. If so, you'd have to discount the hill schools, which do well partly by admitting lots of high achieving kids at 9th grade. Fieldston and Riverdale are particularly social-emotional heavy in the early years compared to the boys' K-8s. One could also argue that St Bs is more rigorous than Collegiate in K-8... though it's not harder to get into.

I'm not going to attempt 35, but here's my top 20, considering their K-8 programs only:

1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 Collegiate
4 St Bernard's
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 HM
8 Chapin
9 St Ann's
10 St David's
11 Buckley
12 Sacred Heart
13 Nightingale
14 Riverdale
15 Allen Stevenson
16 Hackley
17 Fieldston
18 Browning
19 Friends
20 Packer

Thank you for the feedback. How would the religious K-8 schools compare? Rodeph Sholom might be top 5 and St. Ignatius top 10.

Rodeph is not top 5. It is perfectly fine but it is nowhere near that. They have a pretty good core of good kids and families but then have trouble filling in around that. They weren't in danger of going away but inheriting the kids from the failed Solomon Schechter school was a nice lifeline.

There exmissions this year was very impressive. Many students going on to TT high schools. I have not seen a list like that from any of the private independent K-8 schools.

Plenty have that record. Four are on the list above. Add in Speyer too. What you’re saying is laughable.

There is no way Speyer is sending half the class to HM, Riverdale, Trinity, Dalton, Spence, etc…

There was another thread where they discussed this - exmissions were relaly impressive. The school wouldn't work for my kid but they clearly have a formula that works.

The formula is tiger parents who can afford tuition. There's little doubt Speyer has very good exmissions, especially if you're interested in Hunter/Stuy/BronxSci. The inside scoop (from faculty), though, is that admissions standards have dropped and they now take the majority of full-pay applicants. Also, that there's some slight of hand in what they post online RE: private school exmissions, which makes sense given the admissions standards. Don't get me wrong, the exmissions are good, just not as good as they want you to believe. It's also a really quirky/nerdy place, which could make it a great fit for some, though you're not getting the polish and confidence that the traditional top schools instill.

What's the sleight of hand? They post where people are going (not just admittances) in one year, better than many other K-8s which only post 5 year matriculations: https://www.instagram.com/p/DXWvShlFmPs/

St D St B and Buckley don’t even post 1 or 5 year matriculations. It’s a vague list without numbers. Doubt any are as good as Speyer’s list

St D posts their entire class in their annual reports which are in the website

Thank you, I found it. It was buried away from admissions and I see why. It is very lackluster results wise, and definitely way worse than Speyer

The thing with St D’s is that a lot of students self select into Catholic schools, plus they are much less aggressive with counseling out that, say, St B’s. So the specific numbers aren’t necessarily comparable.

That’s a lot of K-8 tuition to end up at Fordham prep or Loyola

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1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 HM
4 Collegiate
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 Chapin
8 Riverdale
9 St Ann's
St B
10 Trevor
11 Fieldston
12 Marymount
St D
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Regis
16 Friends Seminary
16 GCS
17 Packer
Buckley
18 Poly
19 Loyola
20 Avenues
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25 Calhoun
26 Hackley
27 Lycée
28 UNIS
Allen-Stevenson
29 Xavier
30 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
Town
35 Dwight

An improvement, but there are quirks. Collegiate has better exmissions than HM. Few people would put Marymount above Sacred Heart. Regis seems unfairly penalized for being less "upper crust" than the $70k schools. Hackley has become a popular destination for the K-8 boys who don't want a pressure cooker. Exmissions are similar to or slightly better than Fieldston these days. It's not remotely TT, but i in no world is it #36 below Calhoun.

It's not clear if we're comparing K-8 boys with only the K-8 components of the K-12s to make it apples-to-apples. If so, you'd have to discount the hill schools, which do well partly by admitting lots of high achieving kids at 9th grade. Fieldston and Riverdale are particularly social-emotional heavy in the early years compared to the boys' K-8s. One could also argue that St Bs is more rigorous than Collegiate in K-8... though it's not harder to get into.

I'm not going to attempt 35, but here's my top 20, considering their K-8 programs only:

1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 Collegiate
4 St Bernard's
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 HM
8 Chapin
9 St Ann's
10 St David's
11 Buckley
12 Sacred Heart
13 Nightingale
14 Riverdale
15 Allen Stevenson
16 Hackley
17 Fieldston
18 Browning
19 Friends
20 Packer

Thank you for the feedback. How would the religious K-8 schools compare? Rodeph Sholom might be top 5 and St. Ignatius top 10.

Rodeph is not top 5. It is perfectly fine but it is nowhere near that. They have a pretty good core of good kids and families but then have trouble filling in around that. They weren't in danger of going away but inheriting the kids from the failed Solomon Schechter school was a nice lifeline.

There exmissions this year was very impressive. Many students going on to TT high schools. I have not seen a list like that from any of the private independent K-8 schools.

Plenty have that record. Four are on the list above. Add in Speyer too. What you’re saying is laughable.

There is no way Speyer is sending half the class to HM, Riverdale, Trinity, Dalton, Spence, etc…

There was another thread where they discussed this - exmissions were relaly impressive. The school wouldn't work for my kid but they clearly have a formula that works.

The formula is tiger parents who can afford tuition. There's little doubt Speyer has very good exmissions, especially if you're interested in Hunter/Stuy/BronxSci. The inside scoop (from faculty), though, is that admissions standards have dropped and they now take the majority of full-pay applicants. Also, that there's some slight of hand in what they post online RE: private school exmissions, which makes sense given the admissions standards. Don't get me wrong, the exmissions are good, just not as good as they want you to believe. It's also a really quirky/nerdy place, which could make it a great fit for some, though you're not getting the polish and confidence that the traditional top schools instill.

What's the sleight of hand? They post where people are going (not just admittances) in one year, better than many other K-8s which only post 5 year matriculations: https://www.instagram.com/p/DXWvShlFmPs/

St D St B and Buckley don’t even post 1 or 5 year matriculations. It’s a vague list without numbers. Doubt any are as good as Speyer’s list

St D posts their entire class in their annual reports which are in the website

Thank you, I found it. It was buried away from admissions and I see why. It is very lackluster results wise, and definitely way worse than Speyer

The thing with St D’s is that a lot of students self select into Catholic schools, plus they are much less aggressive with counseling out that, say, St B’s. So the specific numbers aren’t necessarily comparable.

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1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 HM
4 Collegiate
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 Chapin
8 Riverdale
9 St Ann's
St B
10 Trevor
11 Fieldston
12 Marymount
St D
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Regis
16 Friends Seminary
16 GCS
17 Packer
Buckley
18 Poly
19 Loyola
20 Avenues
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25 Calhoun
26 Hackley
27 Lycée
28 UNIS
Allen-Stevenson
29 Xavier
30 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
Town
35 Dwight

An improvement, but there are quirks. Collegiate has better exmissions than HM. Few people would put Marymount above Sacred Heart. Regis seems unfairly penalized for being less "upper crust" than the $70k schools. Hackley has become a popular destination for the K-8 boys who don't want a pressure cooker. Exmissions are similar to or slightly better than Fieldston these days. It's not remotely TT, but i in no world is it #36 below Calhoun.

It's not clear if we're comparing K-8 boys with only the K-8 components of the K-12s to make it apples-to-apples. If so, you'd have to discount the hill schools, which do well partly by admitting lots of high achieving kids at 9th grade. Fieldston and Riverdale are particularly social-emotional heavy in the early years compared to the boys' K-8s. One could also argue that St Bs is more rigorous than Collegiate in K-8... though it's not harder to get into.

I'm not going to attempt 35, but here's my top 20, considering their K-8 programs only:

1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 Collegiate
4 St Bernard's
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 HM
8 Chapin
9 St Ann's
10 St David's
11 Buckley
12 Sacred Heart
13 Nightingale
14 Riverdale
15 Allen Stevenson
16 Hackley
17 Fieldston
18 Browning
19 Friends
20 Packer

Thank you for the feedback. How would the religious K-8 schools compare? Rodeph Sholom might be top 5 and St. Ignatius top 10.

Rodeph is not top 5. It is perfectly fine but it is nowhere near that. They have a pretty good core of good kids and families but then have trouble filling in around that. They weren't in danger of going away but inheriting the kids from the failed Solomon Schechter school was a nice lifeline.

There exmissions this year was very impressive. Many students going on to TT high schools. I have not seen a list like that from any of the private independent K-8 schools.

Plenty have that record. Four are on the list above. Add in Speyer too. What you’re saying is laughable.

There is no way Speyer is sending half the class to HM, Riverdale, Trinity, Dalton, Spence, etc…

There was another thread where they discussed this - exmissions were relaly impressive. The school wouldn't work for my kid but they clearly have a formula that works.

The formula is tiger parents who can afford tuition. There's little doubt Speyer has very good exmissions, especially if you're interested in Hunter/Stuy/BronxSci. The inside scoop (from faculty), though, is that admissions standards have dropped and they now take the majority of full-pay applicants. Also, that there's some slight of hand in what they post online RE: private school exmissions, which makes sense given the admissions standards. Don't get me wrong, the exmissions are good, just not as good as they want you to believe. It's also a really quirky/nerdy place, which could make it a great fit for some, though you're not getting the polish and confidence that the traditional top schools instill.

What's the sleight of hand? They post where people are going (not just admittances) in one year, better than many other K-8s which only post 5 year matriculations: https://www.instagram.com/p/DXWvShlFmPs/

St D St B and Buckley don’t even post 1 or 5 year matriculations. It’s a vague list without numbers. Doubt any are as good as Speyer’s list

St D posts their entire class in their annual reports which are in the website

Thank you, I found it. It was buried away from admissions and I see why. It is very lackluster results wise, and definitely way worse than Speyer

Anonymous wrote:Buckley exmissions are definitely better than St D's but with way more going to top boarding schools (might just be a preference difference, as there is typically more competition for city schools). I think St B better than Buckley and St D, but as above poster mentioned, could be due to many legacies.

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1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 HM
4 Collegiate
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 Chapin
8 Riverdale
9 St Ann's
St B
10 Trevor
11 Fieldston
12 Marymount
St D
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Regis
16 Friends Seminary
16 GCS
17 Packer
Buckley
18 Poly
19 Loyola
20 Avenues
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25 Calhoun
26 Hackley
27 Lycée
28 UNIS
Allen-Stevenson
29 Xavier
30 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
Town
35 Dwight

An improvement, but there are quirks. Collegiate has better exmissions than HM. Few people would put Marymount above Sacred Heart. Regis seems unfairly penalized for being less "upper crust" than the $70k schools. Hackley has become a popular destination for the K-8 boys who don't want a pressure cooker. Exmissions are similar to or slightly better than Fieldston these days. It's not remotely TT, but i in no world is it #36 below Calhoun.

It's not clear if we're comparing K-8 boys with only the K-8 components of the K-12s to make it apples-to-apples. If so, you'd have to discount the hill schools, which do well partly by admitting lots of high achieving kids at 9th grade. Fieldston and Riverdale are particularly social-emotional heavy in the early years compared to the boys' K-8s. One could also argue that St Bs is more rigorous than Collegiate in K-8... though it's not harder to get into.

I'm not going to attempt 35, but here's my top 20, considering their K-8 programs only:

1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 Collegiate
4 St Bernard's
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 HM
8 Chapin
9 St Ann's
10 St David's
11 Buckley
12 Sacred Heart
13 Nightingale
14 Riverdale
15 Allen Stevenson
16 Hackley
17 Fieldston
18 Browning
19 Friends
20 Packer

Thank you for the feedback. How would the religious K-8 schools compare? Rodeph Sholom might be top 5 and St. Ignatius top 10.

Rodeph is not top 5. It is perfectly fine but it is nowhere near that. They have a pretty good core of good kids and families but then have trouble filling in around that. They weren't in danger of going away but inheriting the kids from the failed Solomon Schechter school was a nice lifeline.

There exmissions this year was very impressive. Many students going on to TT high schools. I have not seen a list like that from any of the private independent K-8 schools.

Plenty have that record. Four are on the list above. Add in Speyer too. What you’re saying is laughable.

There is no way Speyer is sending half the class to HM, Riverdale, Trinity, Dalton, Spence, etc…

There was another thread where they discussed this - exmissions were relaly impressive. The school wouldn't work for my kid but they clearly have a formula that works.

The formula is tiger parents who can afford tuition. There's little doubt Speyer has very good exmissions, especially if you're interested in Hunter/Stuy/BronxSci. The inside scoop (from faculty), though, is that admissions standards have dropped and they now take the majority of full-pay applicants. Also, that there's some slight of hand in what they post online RE: private school exmissions, which makes sense given the admissions standards. Don't get me wrong, the exmissions are good, just not as good as they want you to believe. It's also a really quirky/nerdy place, which could make it a great fit for some, though you're not getting the polish and confidence that the traditional top schools instill.

What's the sleight of hand? They post where people are going (not just admittances) in one year, better than many other K-8s which only post 5 year matriculations: https://www.instagram.com/p/DXWvShlFmPs/

St D St B and Buckley don’t even post 1 or 5 year matriculations. It’s a vague list without numbers. Doubt any are as good as Speyer’s list

St D posts their entire class in their annual reports which are in the website

Does anyone know if St Bs or Buckley is better than this exmissions wise?

St Bs exmissions are unbelievably good. That said, they are explained by legacy and aggressive counseling out. They're is notorious for kicking out kids who aren't going to place well, which is a little scary when you're enrolling a 5yr old and don't have Andover legacy.

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1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 HM
4 Collegiate
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 Chapin
8 Riverdale
9 St Ann's
St B
10 Trevor
11 Fieldston
12 Marymount
St D
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Regis
16 Friends Seminary
16 GCS
17 Packer
Buckley
18 Poly
19 Loyola
20 Avenues
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25 Calhoun
26 Hackley
27 Lycée
28 UNIS
Allen-Stevenson
29 Xavier
30 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
Town
35 Dwight

An improvement, but there are quirks. Collegiate has better exmissions than HM. Few people would put Marymount above Sacred Heart. Regis seems unfairly penalized for being less "upper crust" than the $70k schools. Hackley has become a popular destination for the K-8 boys who don't want a pressure cooker. Exmissions are similar to or slightly better than Fieldston these days. It's not remotely TT, but i in no world is it #36 below Calhoun.

It's not clear if we're comparing K-8 boys with only the K-8 components of the K-12s to make it apples-to-apples. If so, you'd have to discount the hill schools, which do well partly by admitting lots of high achieving kids at 9th grade. Fieldston and Riverdale are particularly social-emotional heavy in the early years compared to the boys' K-8s. One could also argue that St Bs is more rigorous than Collegiate in K-8... though it's not harder to get into.

I'm not going to attempt 35, but here's my top 20, considering their K-8 programs only:

1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 Collegiate
4 St Bernard's
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 HM
8 Chapin
9 St Ann's
10 St David's
11 Buckley
12 Sacred Heart
13 Nightingale
14 Riverdale
15 Allen Stevenson
16 Hackley
17 Fieldston
18 Browning
19 Friends
20 Packer

Thank you for the feedback. How would the religious K-8 schools compare? Rodeph Sholom might be top 5 and St. Ignatius top 10.

Rodeph is not top 5. It is perfectly fine but it is nowhere near that. They have a pretty good core of good kids and families but then have trouble filling in around that. They weren't in danger of going away but inheriting the kids from the failed Solomon Schechter school was a nice lifeline.

There exmissions this year was very impressive. Many students going on to TT high schools. I have not seen a list like that from any of the private independent K-8 schools.

Plenty have that record. Four are on the list above. Add in Speyer too. What you’re saying is laughable.

There is no way Speyer is sending half the class to HM, Riverdale, Trinity, Dalton, Spence, etc…

There was another thread where they discussed this - exmissions were relaly impressive. The school wouldn't work for my kid but they clearly have a formula that works.

The formula is tiger parents who can afford tuition. There's little doubt Speyer has very good exmissions, especially if you're interested in Hunter/Stuy/BronxSci. The inside scoop (from faculty), though, is that admissions standards have dropped and they now take the majority of full-pay applicants. Also, that there's some slight of hand in what they post online RE: private school exmissions, which makes sense given the admissions standards. Don't get me wrong, the exmissions are good, just not as good as they want you to believe. It's also a really quirky/nerdy place, which could make it a great fit for some, though you're not getting the polish and confidence that the traditional top schools instill.

What's the sleight of hand? They post where people are going (not just admittances) in one year, better than many other K-8s which only post 5 year matriculations: https://www.instagram.com/p/DXWvShlFmPs/

St D St B and Buckley don’t even post 1 or 5 year matriculations. It’s a vague list without numbers. Doubt any are as good as Speyer’s list

St D posts their entire class in their annual reports which are in the website

Does anyone know if St Bs or Buckley is better than this exmissions wise?

St Bs exmissions are unbelievably good. That said, they are explained by legacy and aggressive counseling out. They're is notorious for kicking out kids who aren't going to place well, which is a little scary when you're enrolling a 5yr old and don't have Andover legacy.

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1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 HM
4 Collegiate
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 Chapin
8 Riverdale
9 St Ann's
St B
10 Trevor
11 Fieldston
12 Marymount
St D
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Regis
16 Friends Seminary
16 GCS
17 Packer
Buckley
18 Poly
19 Loyola
20 Avenues
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25 Calhoun
26 Hackley
27 Lycée
28 UNIS
Allen-Stevenson
29 Xavier
30 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
Town
35 Dwight

An improvement, but there are quirks. Collegiate has better exmissions than HM. Few people would put Marymount above Sacred Heart. Regis seems unfairly penalized for being less "upper crust" than the $70k schools. Hackley has become a popular destination for the K-8 boys who don't want a pressure cooker. Exmissions are similar to or slightly better than Fieldston these days. It's not remotely TT, but i in no world is it #36 below Calhoun.

It's not clear if we're comparing K-8 boys with only the K-8 components of the K-12s to make it apples-to-apples. If so, you'd have to discount the hill schools, which do well partly by admitting lots of high achieving kids at 9th grade. Fieldston and Riverdale are particularly social-emotional heavy in the early years compared to the boys' K-8s. One could also argue that St Bs is more rigorous than Collegiate in K-8... though it's not harder to get into.

I'm not going to attempt 35, but here's my top 20, considering their K-8 programs only:

1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 Collegiate
4 St Bernard's
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 HM
8 Chapin
9 St Ann's
10 St David's
11 Buckley
12 Sacred Heart
13 Nightingale
14 Riverdale
15 Allen Stevenson
16 Hackley
17 Fieldston
18 Browning
19 Friends
20 Packer

Thank you for the feedback. How would the religious K-8 schools compare? Rodeph Sholom might be top 5 and St. Ignatius top 10.

Rodeph is not top 5. It is perfectly fine but it is nowhere near that. They have a pretty good core of good kids and families but then have trouble filling in around that. They weren't in danger of going away but inheriting the kids from the failed Solomon Schechter school was a nice lifeline.

There exmissions this year was very impressive. Many students going on to TT high schools. I have not seen a list like that from any of the private independent K-8 schools.

Plenty have that record. Four are on the list above. Add in Speyer too. What you’re saying is laughable.

There is no way Speyer is sending half the class to HM, Riverdale, Trinity, Dalton, Spence, etc…

There was another thread where they discussed this - exmissions were relaly impressive. The school wouldn't work for my kid but they clearly have a formula that works.

The formula is tiger parents who can afford tuition. There's little doubt Speyer has very good exmissions, especially if you're interested in Hunter/Stuy/BronxSci. The inside scoop (from faculty), though, is that admissions standards have dropped and they now take the majority of full-pay applicants. Also, that there's some slight of hand in what they post online RE: private school exmissions, which makes sense given the admissions standards. Don't get me wrong, the exmissions are good, just not as good as they want you to believe. It's also a really quirky/nerdy place, which could make it a great fit for some, though you're not getting the polish and confidence that the traditional top schools instill.

What's the sleight of hand? They post where people are going (not just admittances) in one year, better than many other K-8s which only post 5 year matriculations: https://www.instagram.com/p/DXWvShlFmPs/

St D St B and Buckley don’t even post 1 or 5 year matriculations. It’s a vague list without numbers. Doubt any are as good as Speyer’s list

St D posts their entire class in their annual reports which are in the website

Does anyone know if St Bs or Buckley is better than this exmissions wise?

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1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 HM
4 Collegiate
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 Chapin
8 Riverdale
9 St Ann's
St B
10 Trevor
11 Fieldston
12 Marymount
St D
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Regis
16 Friends Seminary
16 GCS
17 Packer
Buckley
18 Poly
19 Loyola
20 Avenues
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25 Calhoun
26 Hackley
27 Lycée
28 UNIS
Allen-Stevenson
29 Xavier
30 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
Town
35 Dwight

An improvement, but there are quirks. Collegiate has better exmissions than HM. Few people would put Marymount above Sacred Heart. Regis seems unfairly penalized for being less "upper crust" than the $70k schools. Hackley has become a popular destination for the K-8 boys who don't want a pressure cooker. Exmissions are similar to or slightly better than Fieldston these days. It's not remotely TT, but i in no world is it #36 below Calhoun.

It's not clear if we're comparing K-8 boys with only the K-8 components of the K-12s to make it apples-to-apples. If so, you'd have to discount the hill schools, which do well partly by admitting lots of high achieving kids at 9th grade. Fieldston and Riverdale are particularly social-emotional heavy in the early years compared to the boys' K-8s. One could also argue that St Bs is more rigorous than Collegiate in K-8... though it's not harder to get into.

I'm not going to attempt 35, but here's my top 20, considering their K-8 programs only:

1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 Collegiate
4 St Bernard's
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 HM
8 Chapin
9 St Ann's
10 St David's
11 Buckley
12 Sacred Heart
13 Nightingale
14 Riverdale
15 Allen Stevenson
16 Hackley
17 Fieldston
18 Browning
19 Friends
20 Packer

Thank you for the feedback. How would the religious K-8 schools compare? Rodeph Sholom might be top 5 and St. Ignatius top 10.

Rodeph is not top 5. It is perfectly fine but it is nowhere near that. They have a pretty good core of good kids and families but then have trouble filling in around that. They weren't in danger of going away but inheriting the kids from the failed Solomon Schechter school was a nice lifeline.

There exmissions this year was very impressive. Many students going on to TT high schools. I have not seen a list like that from any of the private independent K-8 schools.

Plenty have that record. Four are on the list above. Add in Speyer too. What you’re saying is laughable.

There is no way Speyer is sending half the class to HM, Riverdale, Trinity, Dalton, Spence, etc…

There was another thread where they discussed this - exmissions were relaly impressive. The school wouldn't work for my kid but they clearly have a formula that works.

The formula is tiger parents who can afford tuition. There's little doubt Speyer has very good exmissions, especially if you're interested in Hunter/Stuy/BronxSci. The inside scoop (from faculty), though, is that admissions standards have dropped and they now take the majority of full-pay applicants. Also, that there's some slight of hand in what they post online RE: private school exmissions, which makes sense given the admissions standards. Don't get me wrong, the exmissions are good, just not as good as they want you to believe. It's also a really quirky/nerdy place, which could make it a great fit for some, though you're not getting the polish and confidence that the traditional top schools instill.

What's the sleight of hand? They post where people are going (not just admittances) in one year, better than many other K-8s which only post 5 year matriculations: https://www.instagram.com/p/DXWvShlFmPs/

St D St B and Buckley don’t even post 1 or 5 year matriculations. It’s a vague list without numbers. Doubt any are as good as Speyer’s list

St D posts their entire class in their annual reports which are in the website

Thank you, I found it. It was buried away from admissions and I see why. It is very lackluster results wise, and definitely way worse than Speyer

It's hard to make much of one year, especially when a class is about 50 kids. I've looked at the 5-7yr history before, and Saint Bernard's was much better than either Saint David's or Speyer. Whether Saint David's or Speyer was next depended on whether you were talking about private schools only or adding in Hunter/Stuy/BxSci. It was also pretty hard to get confidence in Speyer's stated results, because they included more exmissions than the total number of students. It also claimed 3x the exmissions to Saint Ann's than to Riverdale, which was really weird. I think maybe they were being fluid with acceptances vs. matriculations a couple years ago? It *looks* like they've fixed this now, but it's still hard to fully trust what they say. There are 32 results in the instagram post - is that the whole graduating class?

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1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 HM
4 Collegiate
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 Chapin
8 Riverdale
9 St Ann's
St B
10 Trevor
11 Fieldston
12 Marymount
St D
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Regis
16 Friends Seminary
16 GCS
17 Packer
Buckley
18 Poly
19 Loyola
20 Avenues
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25 Calhoun
26 Hackley
27 Lycée
28 UNIS
Allen-Stevenson
29 Xavier
30 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
Town
35 Dwight

An improvement, but there are quirks. Collegiate has better exmissions than HM. Few people would put Marymount above Sacred Heart. Regis seems unfairly penalized for being less "upper crust" than the $70k schools. Hackley has become a popular destination for the K-8 boys who don't want a pressure cooker. Exmissions are similar to or slightly better than Fieldston these days. It's not remotely TT, but i in no world is it #36 below Calhoun.

It's not clear if we're comparing K-8 boys with only the K-8 components of the K-12s to make it apples-to-apples. If so, you'd have to discount the hill schools, which do well partly by admitting lots of high achieving kids at 9th grade. Fieldston and Riverdale are particularly social-emotional heavy in the early years compared to the boys' K-8s. One could also argue that St Bs is more rigorous than Collegiate in K-8... though it's not harder to get into.

I'm not going to attempt 35, but here's my top 20, considering their K-8 programs only:

1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 Collegiate
4 St Bernard's
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 HM
8 Chapin
9 St Ann's
10 St David's
11 Buckley
12 Sacred Heart
13 Nightingale
14 Riverdale
15 Allen Stevenson
16 Hackley
17 Fieldston
18 Browning
19 Friends
20 Packer

Thank you for the feedback. How would the religious K-8 schools compare? Rodeph Sholom might be top 5 and St. Ignatius top 10.

Rodeph is not top 5. It is perfectly fine but it is nowhere near that. They have a pretty good core of good kids and families but then have trouble filling in around that. They weren't in danger of going away but inheriting the kids from the failed Solomon Schechter school was a nice lifeline.

There exmissions this year was very impressive. Many students going on to TT high schools. I have not seen a list like that from any of the private independent K-8 schools.

Plenty have that record. Four are on the list above. Add in Speyer too. What you’re saying is laughable.

There is no way Speyer is sending half the class to HM, Riverdale, Trinity, Dalton, Spence, etc…

There was another thread where they discussed this - exmissions were relaly impressive. The school wouldn't work for my kid but they clearly have a formula that works.

The formula is tiger parents who can afford tuition. There's little doubt Speyer has very good exmissions, especially if you're interested in Hunter/Stuy/BronxSci. The inside scoop (from faculty), though, is that admissions standards have dropped and they now take the majority of full-pay applicants. Also, that there's some slight of hand in what they post online RE: private school exmissions, which makes sense given the admissions standards. Don't get me wrong, the exmissions are good, just not as good as they want you to believe. It's also a really quirky/nerdy place, which could make it a great fit for some, though you're not getting the polish and confidence that the traditional top schools instill.

What's the sleight of hand? They post where people are going (not just admittances) in one year, better than many other K-8s which only post 5 year matriculations: https://www.instagram.com/p/DXWvShlFmPs/

St D St B and Buckley don’t even post 1 or 5 year matriculations. It’s a vague list without numbers. Doubt any are as good as Speyer’s list

St D posts their entire class in their annual reports which are in the website

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1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 HM
4 Collegiate
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 Chapin
8 Riverdale
9 St Ann's
St B
10 Trevor
11 Fieldston
12 Marymount
St D
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Regis
16 Friends Seminary
16 GCS
17 Packer
Buckley
18 Poly
19 Loyola
20 Avenues
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25 Calhoun
26 Hackley
27 Lycée
28 UNIS
Allen-Stevenson
29 Xavier
30 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
Town
35 Dwight

An improvement, but there are quirks. Collegiate has better exmissions than HM. Few people would put Marymount above Sacred Heart. Regis seems unfairly penalized for being less "upper crust" than the $70k schools. Hackley has become a popular destination for the K-8 boys who don't want a pressure cooker. Exmissions are similar to or slightly better than Fieldston these days. It's not remotely TT, but i in no world is it #36 below Calhoun.

It's not clear if we're comparing K-8 boys with only the K-8 components of the K-12s to make it apples-to-apples. If so, you'd have to discount the hill schools, which do well partly by admitting lots of high achieving kids at 9th grade. Fieldston and Riverdale are particularly social-emotional heavy in the early years compared to the boys' K-8s. One could also argue that St Bs is more rigorous than Collegiate in K-8... though it's not harder to get into.

I'm not going to attempt 35, but here's my top 20, considering their K-8 programs only:

1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 Collegiate
4 St Bernard's
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 HM
8 Chapin
9 St Ann's
10 St David's
11 Buckley
12 Sacred Heart
13 Nightingale
14 Riverdale
15 Allen Stevenson
16 Hackley
17 Fieldston
18 Browning
19 Friends
20 Packer

Thank you for the feedback. How would the religious K-8 schools compare? Rodeph Sholom might be top 5 and St. Ignatius top 10.

Rodeph is not top 5. It is perfectly fine but it is nowhere near that. They have a pretty good core of good kids and families but then have trouble filling in around that. They weren't in danger of going away but inheriting the kids from the failed Solomon Schechter school was a nice lifeline.

There exmissions this year was very impressive. Many students going on to TT high schools. I have not seen a list like that from any of the private independent K-8 schools.

Plenty have that record. Four are on the list above. Add in Speyer too. What you’re saying is laughable.

There is no way Speyer is sending half the class to HM, Riverdale, Trinity, Dalton, Spence, etc…

There was another thread where they discussed this - exmissions were relaly impressive. The school wouldn't work for my kid but they clearly have a formula that works.

The formula is tiger parents who can afford tuition. There's little doubt Speyer has very good exmissions, especially if you're interested in Hunter/Stuy/BronxSci. The inside scoop (from faculty), though, is that admissions standards have dropped and they now take the majority of full-pay applicants. Also, that there's some slight of hand in what they post online RE: private school exmissions, which makes sense given the admissions standards. Don't get me wrong, the exmissions are good, just not as good as they want you to believe. It's also a really quirky/nerdy place, which could make it a great fit for some, though you're not getting the polish and confidence that the traditional top schools instill.

What's the sleight of hand? They post where people are going (not just admittances) in one year, better than many other K-8s which only post 5 year matriculations: https://www.instagram.com/p/DXWvShlFmPs/

St D St B and Buckley don’t even post 1 or 5 year matriculations. It’s a vague list without numbers. Doubt any are as good as Speyer’s list

St D posts their entire class in their annual reports which are in the website

Thank you, I found it. It was buried away from admissions and I see why. It is very lackluster results wise, and definitely way worse than Speyer

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1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 HM
4 Collegiate
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 Chapin
8 Riverdale
9 St Ann's
St B
10 Trevor
11 Fieldston
12 Marymount
St D
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Regis
16 Friends Seminary
16 GCS
17 Packer
Buckley
18 Poly
19 Loyola
20 Avenues
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25 Calhoun
26 Hackley
27 Lycée
28 UNIS
Allen-Stevenson
29 Xavier
30 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
Town
35 Dwight

An improvement, but there are quirks. Collegiate has better exmissions than HM. Few people would put Marymount above Sacred Heart. Regis seems unfairly penalized for being less "upper crust" than the $70k schools. Hackley has become a popular destination for the K-8 boys who don't want a pressure cooker. Exmissions are similar to or slightly better than Fieldston these days. It's not remotely TT, but i in no world is it #36 below Calhoun.

It's not clear if we're comparing K-8 boys with only the K-8 components of the K-12s to make it apples-to-apples. If so, you'd have to discount the hill schools, which do well partly by admitting lots of high achieving kids at 9th grade. Fieldston and Riverdale are particularly social-emotional heavy in the early years compared to the boys' K-8s. One could also argue that St Bs is more rigorous than Collegiate in K-8... though it's not harder to get into.

I'm not going to attempt 35, but here's my top 20, considering their K-8 programs only:

1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 Collegiate
4 St Bernard's
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 HM
8 Chapin
9 St Ann's
10 St David's
11 Buckley
12 Sacred Heart
13 Nightingale
14 Riverdale
15 Allen Stevenson
16 Hackley
17 Fieldston
18 Browning
19 Friends
20 Packer

Thank you for the feedback. How would the religious K-8 schools compare? Rodeph Sholom might be top 5 and St. Ignatius top 10.

Rodeph is not top 5. It is perfectly fine but it is nowhere near that. They have a pretty good core of good kids and families but then have trouble filling in around that. They weren't in danger of going away but inheriting the kids from the failed Solomon Schechter school was a nice lifeline.

There exmissions this year was very impressive. Many students going on to TT high schools. I have not seen a list like that from any of the private independent K-8 schools.

Plenty have that record. Four are on the list above. Add in Speyer too. What you’re saying is laughable.

There is no way Speyer is sending half the class to HM, Riverdale, Trinity, Dalton, Spence, etc…

There was another thread where they discussed this - exmissions were relaly impressive. The school wouldn't work for my kid but they clearly have a formula that works.

The formula is tiger parents who can afford tuition. There's little doubt Speyer has very good exmissions, especially if you're interested in Hunter/Stuy/BronxSci. The inside scoop (from faculty), though, is that admissions standards have dropped and they now take the majority of full-pay applicants. Also, that there's some slight of hand in what they post online RE: private school exmissions, which makes sense given the admissions standards. Don't get me wrong, the exmissions are good, just not as good as they want you to believe. It's also a really quirky/nerdy place, which could make it a great fit for some, though you're not getting the polish and confidence that the traditional top schools instill.

What's the sleight of hand? They post where people are going (not just admittances) in one year, better than many other K-8s which only post 5 year matriculations: https://www.instagram.com/p/DXWvShlFmPs/

St D St B and Buckley don’t even post 1 or 5 year matriculations. It’s a vague list without numbers. Doubt any are as good as Speyer’s list

St D posts their entire class in their annual reports which are in the website

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1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 HM
4 Collegiate
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 Chapin
8 Riverdale
9 St Ann's
St B
10 Trevor
11 Fieldston
12 Marymount
St D
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Regis
16 Friends Seminary
16 GCS
17 Packer
Buckley
18 Poly
19 Loyola
20 Avenues
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25 Calhoun
26 Hackley
27 Lycée
28 UNIS
Allen-Stevenson
29 Xavier
30 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
Town
35 Dwight

An improvement, but there are quirks. Collegiate has better exmissions than HM. Few people would put Marymount above Sacred Heart. Regis seems unfairly penalized for being less "upper crust" than the $70k schools. Hackley has become a popular destination for the K-8 boys who don't want a pressure cooker. Exmissions are similar to or slightly better than Fieldston these days. It's not remotely TT, but i in no world is it #36 below Calhoun.

It's not clear if we're comparing K-8 boys with only the K-8 components of the K-12s to make it apples-to-apples. If so, you'd have to discount the hill schools, which do well partly by admitting lots of high achieving kids at 9th grade. Fieldston and Riverdale are particularly social-emotional heavy in the early years compared to the boys' K-8s. One could also argue that St Bs is more rigorous than Collegiate in K-8... though it's not harder to get into.

I'm not going to attempt 35, but here's my top 20, considering their K-8 programs only:

1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 Collegiate
4 St Bernard's
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 HM
8 Chapin
9 St Ann's
10 St David's
11 Buckley
12 Sacred Heart
13 Nightingale
14 Riverdale
15 Allen Stevenson
16 Hackley
17 Fieldston
18 Browning
19 Friends
20 Packer

Thank you for the feedback. How would the religious K-8 schools compare? Rodeph Sholom might be top 5 and St. Ignatius top 10.

Rodeph is not top 5. It is perfectly fine but it is nowhere near that. They have a pretty good core of good kids and families but then have trouble filling in around that. They weren't in danger of going away but inheriting the kids from the failed Solomon Schechter school was a nice lifeline.

There exmissions this year was very impressive. Many students going on to TT high schools. I have not seen a list like that from any of the private independent K-8 schools.

Plenty have that record. Four are on the list above. Add in Speyer too. What you’re saying is laughable.

There is no way Speyer is sending half the class to HM, Riverdale, Trinity, Dalton, Spence, etc…

There was another thread where they discussed this - exmissions were relaly impressive. The school wouldn't work for my kid but they clearly have a formula that works.

The formula is tiger parents who can afford tuition. There's little doubt Speyer has very good exmissions, especially if you're interested in Hunter/Stuy/BronxSci. The inside scoop (from faculty), though, is that admissions standards have dropped and they now take the majority of full-pay applicants. Also, that there's some slight of hand in what they post online RE: private school exmissions, which makes sense given the admissions standards. Don't get me wrong, the exmissions are good, just not as good as they want you to believe. It's also a really quirky/nerdy place, which could make it a great fit for some, though you're not getting the polish and confidence that the traditional top schools instill.

What's the sleight of hand? They post where people are going (not just admittances) in one year, better than many other K-8s which only post 5 year matriculations: https://www.instagram.com/p/DXWvShlFmPs/

St D St B and Buckley don’t even post 1 or 5 year matriculations. It’s a vague list without numbers. Doubt any are as good as Speyer’s list

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1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 HM
4 Collegiate
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 Chapin
8 Riverdale
9 St Ann's
St B
10 Trevor
11 Fieldston
12 Marymount
St D
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Regis
16 Friends Seminary
16 GCS
17 Packer
Buckley
18 Poly
19 Loyola
20 Avenues
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25 Calhoun
26 Hackley
27 Lycée
28 UNIS
Allen-Stevenson
29 Xavier
30 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
Town
35 Dwight

An improvement, but there are quirks. Collegiate has better exmissions than HM. Few people would put Marymount above Sacred Heart. Regis seems unfairly penalized for being less "upper crust" than the $70k schools. Hackley has become a popular destination for the K-8 boys who don't want a pressure cooker. Exmissions are similar to or slightly better than Fieldston these days. It's not remotely TT, but i in no world is it #36 below Calhoun.

It's not clear if we're comparing K-8 boys with only the K-8 components of the K-12s to make it apples-to-apples. If so, you'd have to discount the hill schools, which do well partly by admitting lots of high achieving kids at 9th grade. Fieldston and Riverdale are particularly social-emotional heavy in the early years compared to the boys' K-8s. One could also argue that St Bs is more rigorous than Collegiate in K-8... though it's not harder to get into.

I'm not going to attempt 35, but here's my top 20, considering their K-8 programs only:

1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 Collegiate
4 St Bernard's
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 HM
8 Chapin
9 St Ann's
10 St David's
11 Buckley
12 Sacred Heart
13 Nightingale
14 Riverdale
15 Allen Stevenson
16 Hackley
17 Fieldston
18 Browning
19 Friends
20 Packer

Thank you for the feedback. How would the religious K-8 schools compare? Rodeph Sholom might be top 5 and St. Ignatius top 10.

Rodeph is not top 5. It is perfectly fine but it is nowhere near that. They have a pretty good core of good kids and families but then have trouble filling in around that. They weren't in danger of going away but inheriting the kids from the failed Solomon Schechter school was a nice lifeline.

There exmissions this year was very impressive. Many students going on to TT high schools. I have not seen a list like that from any of the private independent K-8 schools.

Plenty have that record. Four are on the list above. Add in Speyer too. What you’re saying is laughable.

There is no way Speyer is sending half the class to HM, Riverdale, Trinity, Dalton, Spence, etc…

There was another thread where they discussed this - exmissions were relaly impressive. The school wouldn't work for my kid but they clearly have a formula that works.

The formula is tiger parents who can afford tuition. There's little doubt Speyer has very good exmissions, especially if you're interested in Hunter/Stuy/BronxSci. The inside scoop (from faculty), though, is that admissions standards have dropped and they now take the majority of full-pay applicants. Also, that there's some slight of hand in what they post online RE: private school exmissions, which makes sense given the admissions standards. Don't get me wrong, the exmissions are good, just not as good as they want you to believe. It's also a really quirky/nerdy place, which could make it a great fit for some, though you're not getting the polish and confidence that the traditional top schools instill.

What's the sleight of hand? They post where people are going (not just admittances) in one year, better than many other K-8s which only post 5 year matriculations: https://www.instagram.com/p/DXWvShlFmPs/

St D St B and Buckley don’t even post 1 or 5 year matriculations. It’s a vague list without numbers. Doubt any are as good as Speyer’s list

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1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 HM
4 Collegiate
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 Chapin
8 Riverdale
9 St Ann's
St B
10 Trevor
11 Fieldston
12 Marymount
St D
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Regis
16 Friends Seminary
16 GCS
17 Packer
Buckley
18 Poly
19 Loyola
20 Avenues
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25 Calhoun
26 Hackley
27 Lycée
28 UNIS
Allen-Stevenson
29 Xavier
30 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
Town
35 Dwight

An improvement, but there are quirks. Collegiate has better exmissions than HM. Few people would put Marymount above Sacred Heart. Regis seems unfairly penalized for being less "upper crust" than the $70k schools. Hackley has become a popular destination for the K-8 boys who don't want a pressure cooker. Exmissions are similar to or slightly better than Fieldston these days. It's not remotely TT, but i in no world is it #36 below Calhoun.

It's not clear if we're comparing K-8 boys with only the K-8 components of the K-12s to make it apples-to-apples. If so, you'd have to discount the hill schools, which do well partly by admitting lots of high achieving kids at 9th grade. Fieldston and Riverdale are particularly social-emotional heavy in the early years compared to the boys' K-8s. One could also argue that St Bs is more rigorous than Collegiate in K-8... though it's not harder to get into.

I'm not going to attempt 35, but here's my top 20, considering their K-8 programs only:

1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 Collegiate
4 St Bernard's
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 HM
8 Chapin
9 St Ann's
10 St David's
11 Buckley
12 Sacred Heart
13 Nightingale
14 Riverdale
15 Allen Stevenson
16 Hackley
17 Fieldston
18 Browning
19 Friends
20 Packer

Thank you for the feedback. How would the religious K-8 schools compare? Rodeph Sholom might be top 5 and St. Ignatius top 10.

Rodeph is not top 5. It is perfectly fine but it is nowhere near that. They have a pretty good core of good kids and families but then have trouble filling in around that. They weren't in danger of going away but inheriting the kids from the failed Solomon Schechter school was a nice lifeline.

There exmissions this year was very impressive. Many students going on to TT high schools. I have not seen a list like that from any of the private independent K-8 schools.

Plenty have that record. Four are on the list above. Add in Speyer too. What you’re saying is laughable.

There is no way Speyer is sending half the class to HM, Riverdale, Trinity, Dalton, Spence, etc…

There was another thread where they discussed this - exmissions were relaly impressive. The school wouldn't work for my kid but they clearly have a formula that works.

The formula is tiger parents who can afford tuition. There's little doubt Speyer has very good exmissions, especially if you're interested in Hunter/Stuy/BronxSci. The inside scoop (from faculty), though, is that admissions standards have dropped and they now take the majority of full-pay applicants. Also, that there's some slight of hand in what they post online RE: private school exmissions, which makes sense given the admissions standards. Don't get me wrong, the exmissions are good, just not as good as they want you to believe. It's also a really quirky/nerdy place, which could make it a great fit for some, though you're not getting the polish and confidence that the traditional top schools instill.

What's the sleight of hand? They post where people are going (not just admittances) in one year, better than many other K-8s which only post 5 year matriculations: https://www.instagram.com/p/DXWvShlFmPs/

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1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 HM
4 Collegiate
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 Chapin
8 Riverdale
9 St Ann's
St B
10 Trevor
11 Fieldston
12 Marymount
St D
13 Sacred Heart
14 Nightingale
15 Regis
16 Friends Seminary
16 GCS
17 Packer
Buckley
18 Poly
19 Loyola
20 Avenues
21 BFS
22 BC
23 Basis
24 Hewitt
25 Calhoun
26 Hackley
27 Lycée
28 UNIS
Allen-Stevenson
29 Xavier
30 Fordham Prep
32 Notre Dame
33 DA
34 SVF
Town
35 Dwight

An improvement, but there are quirks. Collegiate has better exmissions than HM. Few people would put Marymount above Sacred Heart. Regis seems unfairly penalized for being less "upper crust" than the $70k schools. Hackley has become a popular destination for the K-8 boys who don't want a pressure cooker. Exmissions are similar to or slightly better than Fieldston these days. It's not remotely TT, but i in no world is it #36 below Calhoun.

It's not clear if we're comparing K-8 boys with only the K-8 components of the K-12s to make it apples-to-apples. If so, you'd have to discount the hill schools, which do well partly by admitting lots of high achieving kids at 9th grade. Fieldston and Riverdale are particularly social-emotional heavy in the early years compared to the boys' K-8s. One could also argue that St Bs is more rigorous than Collegiate in K-8... though it's not harder to get into.

I'm not going to attempt 35, but here's my top 20, considering their K-8 programs only:

1 Trinity
2 Brearley
3 Collegiate
4 St Bernard's
5 Spence
6 Dalton
7 HM
8 Chapin
9 St Ann's
10 St David's
11 Buckley
12 Sacred Heart
13 Nightingale
14 Riverdale
15 Allen Stevenson
16 Hackley
17 Fieldston
18 Browning
19 Friends
20 Packer

Thank you for the feedback. How would the religious K-8 schools compare? Rodeph Sholom might be top 5 and St. Ignatius top 10.

Rodeph is not top 5. It is perfectly fine but it is nowhere near that. They have a pretty good core of good kids and families but then have trouble filling in around that. They weren't in danger of going away but inheriting the kids from the failed Solomon Schechter school was a nice lifeline.

There exmissions this year was very impressive. Many students going on to TT high schools. I have not seen a list like that from any of the private independent K-8 schools.

Plenty have that record. Four are on the list above. Add in Speyer too. What you’re saying is laughable.

There is no way Speyer is sending half the class to HM, Riverdale, Trinity, Dalton, Spence, etc…

There was another thread where they discussed this - exmissions were relaly impressive. The school wouldn't work for my kid but they clearly have a formula that works.

The formula is tiger parents who can afford tuition. There's little doubt Speyer has very good exmissions, especially if you're interested in Hunter/Stuy/BronxSci. The inside scoop (from faculty), though, is that admissions standards have dropped and they now take the majority of full-pay applicants. Also, that there's some slight of hand in what they post online RE: private school exmissions, which makes sense given the admissions standards. Don't get me wrong, the exmissions are good, just not as good as they want you to believe. It's also a really quirky/nerdy place, which could make it a great fit for some, though you're not getting the polish and confidence that the traditional top schools instill.