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Anonymous wrote:Just got the email from the AART at my son's school - he's been accepted for full-time AAP on appeal! Haven't gotten the email from the AAP office with the acceptance link yet, so maybe that will come later in the week.

Congratulations to you and your son. That's a happy outcome.
Our AART told us they will inform about the subject specific/part time AAP decisions this week.

A couple yrs ago, we received notification from our AART that my DC was declined level 3 part time AAP (approved level 2) on Thursday, and then received notification on Friday that she got in on appeal for full-time AAP. Further evidence that our local committee had absolutely no idea what they were doing.

I could have written this a few years ago. Our AART and principal were adamant that my second grader was no more than level 2. Got into AAP on appeal a few days later and scoring 99th percentile on all these exams ever since. These AARTs have no idea. And this was at one of the elementary schools this board considers well-regarded.

Shit yes same. I was so happy the appeals process didn’t involve our useless AART. And yes. Here we are, scoring pass advanced on the SOLs and absolutely thriving at our center.

This is not directed at your child and their need for AAP, but scoring Pass Advanced on SOLs is not an indicator that a child needs AAP.

Lots of lowly gen ed kids also pass advance, despite not getting the extra pbl

DP. Honestly, this speaks poorly of the efficacy of the AAP program. In theory, the kids selected start out more advanced and are more gifted than the kids who weren't selected. They are then given a stronger peer group and access to more advanced materials, while the top gen ed kids are largely ignored. In middle school, they theoretically get more rigorous courses. If the AAP program were at all effective, then the AAP kids, with all of their extra nurturing, should be leaps and bounds ahead of the bright gen ed kids. But this largely isn't the case.

SOLs are a low and inconsistent bar, but one would think that if an AAP kid, after benefitting from the stronger class environment, more advanced materials, and more teacher attention earns the same SOL score as a bright gen ed kid, who was denied access to all of the same, the gen ed kid is more "worthy" of being in AAP than the AAP kid.

For many reasons there are many kids in gen ed who are fully interchangeable with the kids in the aap classroom.... I've yet to see a good explanation yet for why

Because the program is too large so the edges get blurry. Reduce it back to a truer gifted program - 5 percent or so - and that will be less of an issue.

Or, let all of the kids who are able and willing to do the work...do the work.
top of gened kids don't get to be with their peer group until middle school. Why is it ok for that group to be separated from their peers?

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Anonymous wrote:Just got the email from the AART at my son's school - he's been accepted for full-time AAP on appeal! Haven't gotten the email from the AAP office with the acceptance link yet, so maybe that will come later in the week.

Congratulations to you and your son. That's a happy outcome.
Our AART told us they will inform about the subject specific/part time AAP decisions this week.

A couple yrs ago, we received notification from our AART that my DC was declined level 3 part time AAP (approved level 2) on Thursday, and then received notification on Friday that she got in on appeal for full-time AAP. Further evidence that our local committee had absolutely no idea what they were doing.

I could have written this a few years ago. Our AART and principal were adamant that my second grader was no more than level 2. Got into AAP on appeal a few days later and scoring 99th percentile on all these exams ever since. These AARTs have no idea. And this was at one of the elementary schools this board considers well-regarded.

Shit yes same. I was so happy the appeals process didn’t involve our useless AART. And yes. Here we are, scoring pass advanced on the SOLs and absolutely thriving at our center.

This is not directed at your child and their need for AAP, but scoring Pass Advanced on SOLs is not an indicator that a child needs AAP.

Lots of lowly gen ed kids also pass advance, despite not getting the extra pbl

DP. Honestly, this speaks poorly of the efficacy of the AAP program. In theory, the kids selected start out more advanced and are more gifted than the kids who weren't selected. They are then given a stronger peer group and access to more advanced materials, while the top gen ed kids are largely ignored. In middle school, they theoretically get more rigorous courses. If the AAP program were at all effective, then the AAP kids, with all of their extra nurturing, should be leaps and bounds ahead of the bright gen ed kids. But this largely isn't the case.

SOLs are a low and inconsistent bar, but one would think that if an AAP kid, after benefitting from the stronger class environment, more advanced materials, and more teacher attention earns the same SOL score as a bright gen ed kid, who was denied access to all of the same, the gen ed kid is more "worthy" of being in AAP than the AAP kid.

For many reasons there are many kids in gen ed who are fully interchangeable with the kids in the aap classroom.... I've yet to see a good explanation yet for why

Because the program is too large so the edges get blurry. Reduce it back to a truer gifted program - 5 percent or so - and that will be less of an issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Just got the email from the AART at my son's school - he's been accepted for full-time AAP on appeal! Haven't gotten the email from the AAP office with the acceptance link yet, so maybe that will come later in the week.

Congratulations to you and your son. That's a happy outcome.
Our AART told us they will inform about the subject specific/part time AAP decisions this week.

A couple yrs ago, we received notification from our AART that my DC was declined level 3 part time AAP (approved level 2) on Thursday, and then received notification on Friday that she got in on appeal for full-time AAP. Further evidence that our local committee had absolutely no idea what they were doing.

I could have written this a few years ago. Our AART and principal were adamant that my second grader was no more than level 2. Got into AAP on appeal a few days later and scoring 99th percentile on all these exams ever since. These AARTs have no idea. And this was at one of the elementary schools this board considers well-regarded.

Shit yes same. I was so happy the appeals process didn’t involve our useless AART. And yes. Here we are, scoring pass advanced on the SOLs and absolutely thriving at our center.

This is not directed at your child and their need for AAP, but scoring Pass Advanced on SOLs is not an indicator that a child needs AAP.

Lots of lowly gen ed kids also pass advance, despite not getting the extra pbl

DP. Honestly, this speaks poorly of the efficacy of the AAP program. In theory, the kids selected start out more advanced and are more gifted than the kids who weren't selected. They are then given a stronger peer group and access to more advanced materials, while the top gen ed kids are largely ignored. In middle school, they theoretically get more rigorous courses. If the AAP program were at all effective, then the AAP kids, with all of their extra nurturing, should be leaps and bounds ahead of the bright gen ed kids. But this largely isn't the case.

SOLs are a low and inconsistent bar, but one would think that if an AAP kid, after benefitting from the stronger class environment, more advanced materials, and more teacher attention earns the same SOL score as a bright gen ed kid, who was denied access to all of the same, the gen ed kid is more "worthy" of being in AAP than the AAP kid.

For many reasons there are many kids in gen ed who are fully interchangeable with the kids in the aap classroom.... I've yet to see a good explanation yet for why

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Anonymous wrote:Just got the email from the AART at my son's school - he's been accepted for full-time AAP on appeal! Haven't gotten the email from the AAP office with the acceptance link yet, so maybe that will come later in the week.

Congratulations to you and your son. That's a happy outcome.
Our AART told us they will inform about the subject specific/part time AAP decisions this week.

A couple yrs ago, we received notification from our AART that my DC was declined level 3 part time AAP (approved level 2) on Thursday, and then received notification on Friday that she got in on appeal for full-time AAP. Further evidence that our local committee had absolutely no idea what they were doing.

I could have written this a few years ago. Our AART and principal were adamant that my second grader was no more than level 2. Got into AAP on appeal a few days later and scoring 99th percentile on all these exams ever since. These AARTs have no idea. And this was at one of the elementary schools this board considers well-regarded.

Shit yes same. I was so happy the appeals process didn’t involve our useless AART. And yes. Here we are, scoring pass advanced on the SOLs and absolutely thriving at our center.

This is not directed at your child and their need for AAP, but scoring Pass Advanced on SOLs is not an indicator that a child needs AAP.

Lots of lowly gen ed kids also pass advance, despite not getting the extra pbl

DP. Honestly, this speaks poorly of the efficacy of the AAP program. In theory, the kids selected start out more advanced and are more gifted than the kids who weren't selected. They are then given a stronger peer group and access to more advanced materials, while the top gen ed kids are largely ignored. In middle school, they theoretically get more rigorous courses. If the AAP program were at all effective, then the AAP kids, with all of their extra nurturing, should be leaps and bounds ahead of the bright gen ed kids. But this largely isn't the case.

SOLs are a low and inconsistent bar, but one would think that if an AAP kid, after benefitting from the stronger class environment, more advanced materials, and more teacher attention earns the same SOL score as a bright gen ed kid, who was denied access to all of the same, the gen ed kid is more "worthy" of being in AAP than the AAP kid.

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Anonymous wrote:Just got the email from the AART at my son's school - he's been accepted for full-time AAP on appeal! Haven't gotten the email from the AAP office with the acceptance link yet, so maybe that will come later in the week.

Congratulations to you and your son. That's a happy outcome.
Our AART told us they will inform about the subject specific/part time AAP decisions this week.

A couple yrs ago, we received notification from our AART that my DC was declined level 3 part time AAP (approved level 2) on Thursday, and then received notification on Friday that she got in on appeal for full-time AAP. Further evidence that our local committee had absolutely no idea what they were doing.

I could have written this a few years ago. Our AART and principal were adamant that my second grader was no more than level 2. Got into AAP on appeal a few days later and scoring 99th percentile on all these exams ever since. These AARTs have no idea. And this was at one of the elementary schools this board considers well-regarded.

Shit yes same. I was so happy the appeals process didn’t involve our useless AART. And yes. Here we are, scoring pass advanced on the SOLs and absolutely thriving at our center.

This is not directed at your child and their need for AAP, but scoring Pass Advanced on SOLs is not an indicator that a child needs AAP.

Lots of lowly gen ed kids also pass advance, despite not getting the extra pbl

Exactly my point.

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Anonymous wrote:Just got the email from the AART at my son's school - he's been accepted for full-time AAP on appeal! Haven't gotten the email from the AAP office with the acceptance link yet, so maybe that will come later in the week.

Congratulations to you and your son. That's a happy outcome.
Our AART told us they will inform about the subject specific/part time AAP decisions this week.

A couple yrs ago, we received notification from our AART that my DC was declined level 3 part time AAP (approved level 2) on Thursday, and then received notification on Friday that she got in on appeal for full-time AAP. Further evidence that our local committee had absolutely no idea what they were doing.

I could have written this a few years ago. Our AART and principal were adamant that my second grader was no more than level 2. Got into AAP on appeal a few days later and scoring 99th percentile on all these exams ever since. These AARTs have no idea. And this was at one of the elementary schools this board considers well-regarded.

Shit yes same. I was so happy the appeals process didn’t involve our useless AART. And yes. Here we are, scoring pass advanced on the SOLs and absolutely thriving at our center.

This is not directed at your child and their need for AAP, but scoring Pass Advanced on SOLs is not an indicator that a child needs AAP.

Lots of lowly gen ed kids also pass advance, despite not getting the extra pbl

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Anonymous wrote:Just got the email from the AART at my son's school - he's been accepted for full-time AAP on appeal! Haven't gotten the email from the AAP office with the acceptance link yet, so maybe that will come later in the week.

Congratulations to you and your son. That's a happy outcome.
Our AART told us they will inform about the subject specific/part time AAP decisions this week.

A couple yrs ago, we received notification from our AART that my DC was declined level 3 part time AAP (approved level 2) on Thursday, and then received notification on Friday that she got in on appeal for full-time AAP. Further evidence that our local committee had absolutely no idea what they were doing.

I could have written this a few years ago. Our AART and principal were adamant that my second grader was no more than level 2. Got into AAP on appeal a few days later and scoring 99th percentile on all these exams ever since. These AARTs have no idea. And this was at one of the elementary schools this board considers well-regarded.

Shit yes same. I was so happy the appeals process didn’t involve our useless AART. And yes. Here we are, scoring pass advanced on the SOLs and absolutely thriving at our center.

This is not directed at your child and their need for AAP, but scoring Pass Advanced on SOLs is not an indicator that a child needs AAP.

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Anonymous wrote:Just got the email from the AART at my son's school - he's been accepted for full-time AAP on appeal! Haven't gotten the email from the AAP office with the acceptance link yet, so maybe that will come later in the week.

Congratulations to you and your son. That's a happy outcome.
Our AART told us they will inform about the subject specific/part time AAP decisions this week.

A couple yrs ago, we received notification from our AART that my DC was declined level 3 part time AAP (approved level 2) on Thursday, and then received notification on Friday that she got in on appeal for full-time AAP. Further evidence that our local committee had absolutely no idea what they were doing.

I could have written this a few years ago. Our AART and principal were adamant that my second grader was no more than level 2. Got into AAP on appeal a few days later and scoring 99th percentile on all these exams ever since. These AARTs have no idea. And this was at one of the elementary schools this board considers well-regarded.

Who do you think is on the central selection committee?

Not all AARTs are the same. We have had vastly different experiences when ours changed!

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Anonymous wrote:Just got the email from the AART at my son's school - he's been accepted for full-time AAP on appeal! Haven't gotten the email from the AAP office with the acceptance link yet, so maybe that will come later in the week.

Congratulations to you and your son. That's a happy outcome.
Our AART told us they will inform about the subject specific/part time AAP decisions this week.

A couple yrs ago, we received notification from our AART that my DC was declined level 3 part time AAP (approved level 2) on Thursday, and then received notification on Friday that she got in on appeal for full-time AAP. Further evidence that our local committee had absolutely no idea what they were doing.

I could have written this a few years ago. Our AART and principal were adamant that my second grader was no more than level 2. Got into AAP on appeal a few days later and scoring 99th percentile on all these exams ever since. These AARTs have no idea. And this was at one of the elementary schools this board considers well-regarded.

Who do you think is on the central selection committee?

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Anonymous wrote:Just got the email from the AART at my son's school - he's been accepted for full-time AAP on appeal! Haven't gotten the email from the AAP office with the acceptance link yet, so maybe that will come later in the week.

Congratulations to you and your son. That's a happy outcome.
Our AART told us they will inform about the subject specific/part time AAP decisions this week.

A couple yrs ago, we received notification from our AART that my DC was declined level 3 part time AAP (approved level 2) on Thursday, and then received notification on Friday that she got in on appeal for full-time AAP. Further evidence that our local committee had absolutely no idea what they were doing.

I could have written this a few years ago. Our AART and principal were adamant that my second grader was no more than level 2. Got into AAP on appeal a few days later and scoring 99th percentile on all these exams ever since. These AARTs have no idea. And this was at one of the elementary schools this board considers well-regarded.

Shit yes same. I was so happy the appeals process didn’t involve our useless AART. And yes. Here we are, scoring pass advanced on the SOLs and absolutely thriving at our center.

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Anonymous wrote:Just got the email from the AART at my son's school - he's been accepted for full-time AAP on appeal! Haven't gotten the email from the AAP office with the acceptance link yet, so maybe that will come later in the week.

Do you mind sharing stats and/or pyramid?

Sure! Lord knows I poured over enough of these posts looking for the same info from others.

2nd grade
McLean HS Pyramid
Fall MAP RIT score 207 (most recent MAP 229, but I don't think that would've been considered - that testing date was after I submitted the appeals packet).
NGAT 133 (119 verbal, 132 nonverbal, 126 quantitative)
WISC-V FSIQ 136 (142 VCI, 126 VSI, 131 FRI; 107 WMI, 116 PSI)
HOPE Scores - 1 Sometimes, 4 Often, 5 Almost Always, 1 Always. Exceptional talent boxes marked for Math, Science, and Reading.
AuDHD with an IEP

I submitted 3 new work samples; 1 was a dictation (I typed up as he talked) where he detailed an original space travel idea of his, 1 was a dictation regarding Greek mythology and character motivations, and 1 was a photo of something he'd built along with a typed description of how he built it and his understanding of how it works.

Hope this helps someone else!

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Anonymous wrote:Just got the email from the AART at my son's school - he's been accepted for full-time AAP on appeal! Haven't gotten the email from the AAP office with the acceptance link yet, so maybe that will come later in the week.

Congratulations to you and your son. That's a happy outcome.
Our AART told us they will inform about the subject specific/part time AAP decisions this week.

A couple yrs ago, we received notification from our AART that my DC was declined level 3 part time AAP (approved level 2) on Thursday, and then received notification on Friday that she got in on appeal for full-time AAP. Further evidence that our local committee had absolutely no idea what they were doing.

I could have written this a few years ago. Our AART and principal were adamant that my second grader was no more than level 2. Got into AAP on appeal a few days later and scoring 99th percentile on all these exams ever since. These AARTs have no idea. And this was at one of the elementary schools this board considers well-regarded.

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Anonymous wrote:Just got the email from the AART at my son's school - he's been accepted for full-time AAP on appeal! Haven't gotten the email from the AAP office with the acceptance link yet, so maybe that will come later in the week.

Congratulations to you and your son. That's a happy outcome.
Our AART told us they will inform about the subject specific/part time AAP decisions this week.

A couple yrs ago, we received notification from our AART that my DC was declined level 3 part time AAP (approved level 2) on Thursday, and then received notification on Friday that she got in on appeal for full-time AAP. Further evidence that our local committee had absolutely no idea what they were doing.

Anonymous wrote:Just got the email from the AART at my son's school - he's been accepted for full-time AAP on appeal! Haven't gotten the email from the AAP office with the acceptance link yet, so maybe that will come later in the week.

Congratulations to you and your son. That's a happy outcome.
Our AART told us they will inform about the subject specific/part time AAP decisions this week.

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Anonymous wrote:Just got the email from the AART at my son's school - he's been accepted for full-time AAP on appeal! Haven't gotten the email from the AAP office with the acceptance link yet, so maybe that will come later in the week.

How can this be true? Only the AAP office can send out the official notice of acceptance.

Teachers and schools always know before parents are notified