Anonymous wrote:Did folks forget that fossil fuel companies own the GOP?

Triple digit barrels are making GOP donors vastly richer.

Duh.

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Anonymous wrote:Goldman Sachs is saying oil price will be over $100 through at least 2027. We're all going to suffer for years because of Trump. The only consolation is that this is going to hit MAGA hard.

That is low estimate.

Saudi Arabia Sees a Spike to $180 Oil if Energy Shock Persists Past April
Prices at such a level could trigger a recession or consumer changes that crush demand

https://news.google.com/read/CBMi-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?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Doesn't seem unlikely either. That puts the average price of gas over $6.

Honestly, good. Americans do not have a god given right to cheap gas. Now they have to pay as much as everyone else in the world. I am happy all those idiots in their F150s and Doge Rams in red states are going to get bent over the barrel and reamed for years, multiple times per week because they have to fill up their dumb gas guzzlers.

The only way Americans ever change their habits is because of price. Maybe this ks finally whay gets us to become more competitive in the EV space.

EVs are just as dumb as gas guzzlers. We just become dependent on China instead of the Middle East.

We need to rethink the whole live 30 miles from work and drive there by yourself in a 4,000 pound SUV to click on a keyboard model. EVs don’t make the model any less dumb.

That makes no sense. The Chinese sell EVs and solar. Once you buy either an EV or solar it is yours for the next 20 years. Next day you are not buying natural gas and oil to burn. You are not dependent on buying fuel.

This is a big selling point for the Chinese. You can buy a solar farm or a coal fire/natural gas plant. The solar cost less to build and can be built in 1/2 the time. Once it’s built the cost of operating is basically free.

The big thing for the developing world is the capital cost is less to for solar vs coal, natural gas, etc. Capital cost in the developing world are huge considerations.

Wouldn’t it be funny if Trump accelerated the green energy revolution by making oil and gas unaffordable?

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Anonymous wrote:Goldman Sachs is saying oil price will be over $100 through at least 2027. We're all going to suffer for years because of Trump. The only consolation is that this is going to hit MAGA hard.

That is low estimate.

Saudi Arabia Sees a Spike to $180 Oil if Energy Shock Persists Past April
Prices at such a level could trigger a recession or consumer changes that crush demand

https://news.google.com/read/CBMi-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?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Doesn't seem unlikely either. That puts the average price of gas over $6.

Honestly, good. Americans do not have a god given right to cheap gas. Now they have to pay as much as everyone else in the world. I am happy all those idiots in their F150s and Doge Rams in red states are going to get bent over the barrel and reamed for years, multiple times per week because they have to fill up their dumb gas guzzlers.

The only way Americans ever change their habits is because of price. Maybe this ks finally whay gets us to become more competitive in the EV space.

EVs are just as dumb as gas guzzlers. We just become dependent on China instead of the Middle East.

We need to rethink the whole live 30 miles from work and drive there by yourself in a 4,000 pound SUV to click on a keyboard model. EVs don’t make the model any less dumb.

This is ridiculously short-term thinking. Sure we'll need time to build an independent mineral network but of course it can be done.

Guess what happens when we build or import a bunch of solar panels and batteries made with minerals from evil CHYYYYNA!

Answer: We get the minerals! Right there in the lanels and batteries! Are the Chinese stupid?

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Anonymous wrote:Goldman Sachs is saying oil price will be over $100 through at least 2027. We're all going to suffer for years because of Trump. The only consolation is that this is going to hit MAGA hard.

That is low estimate.

Saudi Arabia Sees a Spike to $180 Oil if Energy Shock Persists Past April
Prices at such a level could trigger a recession or consumer changes that crush demand

https://news.google.com/read/CBMi-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?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Doesn't seem unlikely either. That puts the average price of gas over $6.

Honestly, good. Americans do not have a god given right to cheap gas. Now they have to pay as much as everyone else in the world. I am happy all those idiots in their F150s and Doge Rams in red states are going to get bent over the barrel and reamed for years, multiple times per week because they have to fill up their dumb gas guzzlers.

The only way Americans ever change their habits is because of price. Maybe this ks finally whay gets us to become more competitive in the EV space.

EVs are just as dumb as gas guzzlers. We just become dependent on China instead of the Middle East.

We need to rethink the whole live 30 miles from work and drive there by yourself in a 4,000 pound SUV to click on a keyboard model. EVs don’t make the model any less dumb.

The light from the Sun doesn't get filtered through China, dummy.

Anonymous wrote:Telework could help alleviate commute costs, but oh MAGAs don't do telework.

Fwiw, IEA put out a list of recommendations to conserve during an oil shock, including WFH (bullet 3). Maybe someone will read it.

https://www.iea.org/reports/sheltering-from-oil-shocks

Anonymous wrote:Did folks forget that fossil fuel companies own the GOP?

Triple digit barrels are making GOP donors vastly richer.

MAGA folks think Trump is so rich that he can’t be bought. Comes up in focus groups ALL THE TIME.

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Anonymous wrote:Goldman Sachs is saying oil price will be over $100 through at least 2027. We're all going to suffer for years because of Trump. The only consolation is that this is going to hit MAGA hard.

That is low estimate.

Saudi Arabia Sees a Spike to $180 Oil if Energy Shock Persists Past April
Prices at such a level could trigger a recession or consumer changes that crush demand

https://news.google.com/read/CBMi-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?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Doesn't seem unlikely either. That puts the average price of gas over $6.

Honestly, good. Americans do not have a god given right to cheap gas. Now they have to pay as much as everyone else in the world. I am happy all those idiots in their F150s and Doge Rams in red states are going to get bent over the barrel and reamed for years, multiple times per week because they have to fill up their dumb gas guzzlers.

The only way Americans ever change their habits is because of price. Maybe this ks finally whay gets us to become more competitive in the EV space.

EVs are just as dumb as gas guzzlers. We just become dependent on China instead of the Middle East.

We need to rethink the whole live 30 miles from work and drive there by yourself in a 4,000 pound SUV to click on a keyboard model. EVs don’t make the model any less dumb.

Employers also need to rethink the whole expecting employees to drive more than 30 miles each way to click on a keyboard and jump on Teams meetings for low salaries and pitiful raises that don't make up for the increasing gas prices. And no, don't suggest moving closer to work because many of us don't earn enough to live within walking/biking distance of the office (and the schools suck, and you don't pay enough for us to send Larla to the $50k per year private school).

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Anonymous wrote:Goldman Sachs is saying oil price will be over $100 through at least 2027. We're all going to suffer for years because of Trump. The only consolation is that this is going to hit MAGA hard.

That is low estimate.

Saudi Arabia Sees a Spike to $180 Oil if Energy Shock Persists Past April
Prices at such a level could trigger a recession or consumer changes that crush demand

https://news.google.com/read/CBMi-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?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Doesn't seem unlikely either. That puts the average price of gas over $6.

Honestly, good. Americans do not have a god given right to cheap gas. Now they have to pay as much as everyone else in the world. I am happy all those idiots in their F150s and Doge Rams in red states are going to get bent over the barrel and reamed for years, multiple times per week because they have to fill up their dumb gas guzzlers.

The only way Americans ever change their habits is because of price. Maybe this ks finally whay gets us to become more competitive in the EV space.

EVs are just as dumb as gas guzzlers. We just become dependent on China instead of the Middle East.

We need to rethink the whole live 30 miles from work and drive there by yourself in a 4,000 pound SUV to click on a keyboard model. EVs don’t make the model any less dumb.

This is ridiculously short-term thinking. Sure we'll need time to build an independent mineral network but of course it can be done.

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Anonymous wrote:Goldman Sachs is saying oil price will be over $100 through at least 2027. We're all going to suffer for years because of Trump. The only consolation is that this is going to hit MAGA hard.

That is low estimate.

Saudi Arabia Sees a Spike to $180 Oil if Energy Shock Persists Past April
Prices at such a level could trigger a recession or consumer changes that crush demand

https://news.google.com/read/CBMi-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?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Doesn't seem unlikely either. That puts the average price of gas over $6.

Honestly, good. Americans do not have a god given right to cheap gas. Now they have to pay as much as everyone else in the world. I am happy all those idiots in their F150s and Doge Rams in red states are going to get bent over the barrel and reamed for years, multiple times per week because they have to fill up their dumb gas guzzlers.

The only way Americans ever change their habits is because of price. Maybe this ks finally whay gets us to become more competitive in the EV space.

EVs are just as dumb as gas guzzlers. We just become dependent on China instead of the Middle East.

We need to rethink the whole live 30 miles from work and drive there by yourself in a 4,000 pound SUV to click on a keyboard model. EVs don’t make the model any less dumb.

Maybe republicans should have embraced renewable energy and left the incentives for solar and EV in place both with auto manufacturers as well as tax payers.

And...maybe republicans should be supporting mass transit so people don't have to drive everywhere and...

maybe the GOP should have been supporting high speed rail so people don't have to fly to get to places easily reached by train.

the GOP has sold their MAGA voters a bill of goods and our country will be paying for it for decades.

Did folks forget that fossil fuel companies own the GOP?

Triple digit barrels are making GOP donors vastly richer.

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Anonymous wrote:Goldman Sachs is saying oil price will be over $100 through at least 2027. We're all going to suffer for years because of Trump. The only consolation is that this is going to hit MAGA hard.

That is low estimate.

Saudi Arabia Sees a Spike to $180 Oil if Energy Shock Persists Past April
Prices at such a level could trigger a recession or consumer changes that crush demand

https://news.google.com/read/CBMi-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?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Doesn't seem unlikely either. That puts the average price of gas over $6.

Honestly, good. Americans do not have a god given right to cheap gas. Now they have to pay as much as everyone else in the world. I am happy all those idiots in their F150s and Doge Rams in red states are going to get bent over the barrel and reamed for years, multiple times per week because they have to fill up their dumb gas guzzlers.

The only way Americans ever change their habits is because of price. Maybe this ks finally whay gets us to become more competitive in the EV space.

EVs are just as dumb as gas guzzlers. We just become dependent on China instead of the Middle East.

We need to rethink the whole live 30 miles from work and drive there by yourself in a 4,000 pound SUV to click on a keyboard model. EVs don’t make the model any less dumb.

You can thank GOP dumbasses for why we are dependent on China for EVs and renewables. God, they are dumb AF. They've turned the US into a 3rd world dump still reliant of 18th century fossil fuel technology. The US is done and has gone the way of the British Empire. It is only a few years until our best and brightest students emigrate to China for university study amd more opportunities.

Telework could help alleviate commute costs, but oh MAGAs don't do telework.

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Anonymous wrote:Goldman Sachs is saying oil price will be over $100 through at least 2027. We're all going to suffer for years because of Trump. The only consolation is that this is going to hit MAGA hard.

That is low estimate.

Saudi Arabia Sees a Spike to $180 Oil if Energy Shock Persists Past April
Prices at such a level could trigger a recession or consumer changes that crush demand

https://news.google.com/read/CBMi-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?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Doesn't seem unlikely either. That puts the average price of gas over $6.

Honestly, good. Americans do not have a god given right to cheap gas. Now they have to pay as much as everyone else in the world. I am happy all those idiots in their F150s and Doge Rams in red states are going to get bent over the barrel and reamed for years, multiple times per week because they have to fill up their dumb gas guzzlers.

The only way Americans ever change their habits is because of price. Maybe this ks finally whay gets us to become more competitive in the EV space.

EVs are just as dumb as gas guzzlers. We just become dependent on China instead of the Middle East.

We need to rethink the whole live 30 miles from work and drive there by yourself in a 4,000 pound SUV to click on a keyboard model. EVs don’t make the model any less dumb.

Fair, but we didn't have to become dependent on China for our EV and solar technology. That was a (characteristically) stupid choice made by Republicans.

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Anonymous wrote:Goldman Sachs is saying oil price will be over $100 through at least 2027. We're all going to suffer for years because of Trump. The only consolation is that this is going to hit MAGA hard.

That is low estimate.

Saudi Arabia Sees a Spike to $180 Oil if Energy Shock Persists Past April
Prices at such a level could trigger a recession or consumer changes that crush demand

https://news.google.com/read/CBMi-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?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

Doesn't seem unlikely either. That puts the average price of gas over $6.

Honestly, good. Americans do not have a god given right to cheap gas. Now they have to pay as much as everyone else in the world. I am happy all those idiots in their F150s and Doge Rams in red states are going to get bent over the barrel and reamed for years, multiple times per week because they have to fill up their dumb gas guzzlers.

The only way Americans ever change their habits is because of price. Maybe this ks finally whay gets us to become more competitive in the EV space.

EVs are just as dumb as gas guzzlers. We just become dependent on China instead of the Middle East.

We need to rethink the whole live 30 miles from work and drive there by yourself in a 4,000 pound SUV to click on a keyboard model. EVs don’t make the model any less dumb.