Anonymous wrote:Why do people think that MPD, CPS, and a highly regarded third party investigator are all lying about the lack of evidence?
Again GDS has no incentive to prevent a thorough investigation. Think about it. GDS would be doomed if after all of this the perpetrator(s) committed another assault. GDS has every incentive to find these alleged criminals and get them out of the school. The school would be sued out of existence if they failed to find the perpetrators.
Anonymous wrote:Why do people think that MPD, CPS, and a highly regarded third party investigator are all lying about the lack of evidence?
Again GDS has no incentive to prevent a thorough investigation. Think about it. GDS would be doomed if after all of this the perpetrator(s) committed another assault. GDS has every incentive to find these alleged criminals and get them out of the school. The school would be sued out of existence if they failed to find the perpetrators.
Anonymous wrote:When the Police say that GDS stood in the way of their investigation, I'd be worried. When CPS says that GDS stood in the way of the investigation, I'd be worried.
If someone has heard that it happened and has evidence, they should have come forward with it to a parent or the school long before the email was sent out.
I believe something happened in that bathroom.
I believe that a long delay in reporting it makes finding evidence to arrest someone incredibly hard.
I have not been in that building and have no clue if there are cameras or not. I doubt that anyone keeps camera footage for 2-3 months. I would guess that any Police questioning involved parents and a lawyer, if there was any questioning.
One of the problems with SA cases is that the evidence disappears shortly after the event. Then it becomes a case of who you believe on the witness stand. Even when there is clear evidence that something happened, DNA, photos, video, it is treated as the victim put themselves in that situation. The Police probably cannot identify suspects based on the child's description. The parents email is probably an attempt to get someone to come forward with evidence, an over head comment or the assailants bragging about it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If the older boys thought about masking, then they probably did not leave other forms of evidence. And since the assault was months ago, what evidence could there be?
At this point, Met Police needs to clarify whether the allegations are credible or not, separate from whether they found evidence. If the allegations are credible, then the Head, who did not technically lie, must be brought to task for not taking this seriously enough. He's making it seem like the assault did not happen at all.
There are roughly 80 boys in 7th and 8th grade combined. Even if faces were covered, it seems that hair color, race, articles of clothing, make of sneakers, etc. are things that could have been noted. If so, it would significantly narrow the pool of suspects.
I have deep compassion for the victim and family. At the same time, I also understand how the school could not take action with out more proof. Would you want you your child to be expelled based on an allegation? The movie Atonement comes to mind. It seems the parents are trying to rectify this. As a parent, I would want to do everything to protect my child. This kind of incident also makes you wonder if someone else had abused the kid (trusted adult) and this was a way to process it without implicating a real perpetrator.
I suggested this exact thing upthread. We have no way of knowing. Someone betrayed this kid but we have no way of knowing who it was.
By not seeking information about the incident from the school community, and doing a sham investigation for only their own legal protection, perhaps the HOS betrayed this kid more than anyone else.
What evidence do you have that it was a sham investigation?
What evidence do you have that it was a legitimate investigation? It appears that nothing was done. Not even a basic request for info. Was anybody interviewed besides the victim?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If the older boys thought about masking, then they probably did not leave other forms of evidence. And since the assault was months ago, what evidence could there be?
At this point, Met Police needs to clarify whether the allegations are credible or not, separate from whether they found evidence. If the allegations are credible, then the Head, who did not technically lie, must be brought to task for not taking this seriously enough. He's making it seem like the assault did not happen at all.
There are roughly 80 boys in 7th and 8th grade combined. Even if faces were covered, it seems that hair color, race, articles of clothing, make of sneakers, etc. are things that could have been noted. If so, it would significantly narrow the pool of suspects.
I have deep compassion for the victim and family. At the same time, I also understand how the school could not take action with out more proof. Would you want you your child to be expelled based on an allegation? The movie Atonement comes to mind. It seems the parents are trying to rectify this. As a parent, I would want to do everything to protect my child. This kind of incident also makes you wonder if someone else had abused the kid (trusted adult) and this was a way to process it without implicating a real perpetrator.
I suggested this exact thing upthread. We have no way of knowing. Someone betrayed this kid but we have no way of knowing who it was.
It doesn't sound like MPD did anything, the school of course took a back seat. It sounds like MPD just waited and let things come to them because they probably didn't prioritize it. The MPD mindset is likely, they see 10x worse crimes and don't have the resources and time to go full on every case. I did not hear of anyone being interrogated or the use of police powers ever being used for subpoenas. It doesn't sound like the POS school even tried to generate a list of students or students with behavior problems and actively work along with MPD to find the criminals that did their deeds under their watch. The pressure should be put on MPD and GDS. With just the parents pushing for justice with no one else putting pressure on MPD along with no one knowing about the situation because GDS was trying to sweep things under the rug no wonder the parents have been having a hell of time. Usually schools want to get to the bottom of this. But it sounds like POS GDS was putting more effort on suppression and spinning fake news than putting pressure on MPD or being proactive with MPD. Why because they were hoping it would go away and not damage them. What a POS GDS is, unforgivable. Russell there is a special place in hell for you.
Wow so you think that despite the lack of credible evidence, the school and MPD should have rounded up all the “problem” kids an interrogated them? You realize this is how false confessions are made?
How many problem kids are there at GDS? MPD I am sure has leads, they can actually use some of their powers to go deeper. Instead you, GDS and MPD are running a DEI program to now in provide inclusion of child criminals.
Anonymous wrote:Why the hell would someone make this up?
How did the police not find enough evidence?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If the older boys thought about masking, then they probably did not leave other forms of evidence. And since the assault was months ago, what evidence could there be?
At this point, Met Police needs to clarify whether the allegations are credible or not, separate from whether they found evidence. If the allegations are credible, then the Head, who did not technically lie, must be brought to task for not taking this seriously enough. He's making it seem like the assault did not happen at all.
There are roughly 80 boys in 7th and 8th grade combined. Even if faces were covered, it seems that hair color, race, articles of clothing, make of sneakers, etc. are things that could have been noted. If so, it would significantly narrow the pool of suspects.
I have deep compassion for the victim and family. At the same time, I also understand how the school could not take action with out more proof. Would you want you your child to be expelled based on an allegation? The movie Atonement comes to mind. It seems the parents are trying to rectify this. As a parent, I would want to do everything to protect my child. This kind of incident also makes you wonder if someone else had abused the kid (trusted adult) and this was a way to process it without implicating a real perpetrator.
I suggested this exact thing upthread. We have no way of knowing. Someone betrayed this kid but we have no way of knowing who it was.
It doesn't sound like MPD did anything, the school of course took a back seat. It sounds like MPD just waited and let things come to them because they probably didn't prioritize it. The MPD mindset is likely, they see 10x worse crimes and don't have the resources and time to go full on every case. I did not hear of anyone being interrogated or the use of police powers ever being used for subpoenas. It doesn't sound like the POS school even tried to generate a list of students or students with behavior problems and actively work along with MPD to find the criminals that did their deeds under their watch. The pressure should be put on MPD and GDS. With just the parents pushing for justice with no one else putting pressure on MPD along with no one knowing about the situation because GDS was trying to sweep things under the rug no wonder the parents have been having a hell of time. Usually schools want to get to the bottom of this. But it sounds like POS GDS was putting more effort on suppression and spinning fake news than putting pressure on MPD or being proactive with MPD. Why because they were hoping it would go away and not damage them. What a POS GDS is, unforgivable. Russell there is a special place in hell for you.
Wow so you think that despite the lack of credible evidence, the school and MPD should have rounded up all the “problem” kids an interrogated them? You realize this is how false confessions are made?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If the older boys thought about masking, then they probably did not leave other forms of evidence. And since the assault was months ago, what evidence could there be?
At this point, Met Police needs to clarify whether the allegations are credible or not, separate from whether they found evidence. If the allegations are credible, then the Head, who did not technically lie, must be brought to task for not taking this seriously enough. He's making it seem like the assault did not happen at all.
There are roughly 80 boys in 7th and 8th grade combined. Even if faces were covered, it seems that hair color, race, articles of clothing, make of sneakers, etc. are things that could have been noted. If so, it would significantly narrow the pool of suspects.
I have deep compassion for the victim and family. At the same time, I also understand how the school could not take action with out more proof. Would you want you your child to be expelled based on an allegation? The movie Atonement comes to mind. It seems the parents are trying to rectify this. As a parent, I would want to do everything to protect my child. This kind of incident also makes you wonder if someone else had abused the kid (trusted adult) and this was a way to process it without implicating a real perpetrator.
I suggested this exact thing upthread. We have no way of knowing. Someone betrayed this kid but we have no way of knowing who it was.
By not seeking information about the incident from the school community, and doing a sham investigation for only their own legal protection, perhaps the HOS betrayed this kid more than anyone else.
What evidence do you have that it was a sham investigation?
What evidence do you have that it was a legitimate investigation? It appears that nothing was done. Not even a basic request for info. Was anybody interviewed besides the victim?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
If the older boys thought about masking, then they probably did not leave other forms of evidence. And since the assault was months ago, what evidence could there be?
At this point, Met Police needs to clarify whether the allegations are credible or not, separate from whether they found evidence. If the allegations are credible, then the Head, who did not technically lie, must be brought to task for not taking this seriously enough. He's making it seem like the assault did not happen at all.
There are roughly 80 boys in 7th and 8th grade combined. Even if faces were covered, it seems that hair color, race, articles of clothing, make of sneakers, etc. are things that could have been noted. If so, it would significantly narrow the pool of suspects.
I have deep compassion for the victim and family. At the same time, I also understand how the school could not take action with out more proof. Would you want you your child to be expelled based on an allegation? The movie Atonement comes to mind. It seems the parents are trying to rectify this. As a parent, I would want to do everything to protect my child. This kind of incident also makes you wonder if someone else had abused the kid (trusted adult) and this was a way to process it without implicating a real perpetrator.
I suggested this exact thing upthread. We have no way of knowing. Someone betrayed this kid but we have no way of knowing who it was.
By not seeking information about the incident from the school community, and doing a sham investigation for only their own legal protection, perhaps the HOS betrayed this kid more than anyone else.
What evidence do you have that it was a sham investigation?
What evidence do you have that it was a legitimate investigation? It appears that nothing was done. Not even a basic request for info. Was anybody interviewed besides the victim?