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Anonymous wrote:You sound like a right wing PR bot, lol

No, I just understand the actual provisions in the bill, which will not create a dystopian wasteland populated with deserving but cruelly cast aside hard-working people.

The truly deserving will still receive government support. Others will be required to work for their benefits or to start paying for them because they can but in the past have preferred instead to spend their money elsewhere because government subsidies made such choices possible.

So you’re for 60 yo’s working in fields picking strawberries. While their disabled son is home all day unclean and un-fed. We got it.

Sure, that's a probable scenario. Show us how, with reference to the relevant provisions in the bill? Here's a clue - disabled people still will receive benefits.

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Anonymous wrote:This bill is going to greatly accelerate proverty and crime by gutting the social safety nets. The numbers they are cutting cannot be obtainted through fraud and waste. The yahoos celebrating now are going to be sorry. They won't be safe even in their nice gate homes from this terrible Trump catastrophe of a bill. Or if they are poor yahoos, their financial world is about to be ended.

Well, according to several posters here, poverty is self-made, so that’s impossible. They don’t care what legislation passes because some people can still pull themselves up by their bootstraps. If they can, apparently everyone in America can no matter their circumstances. They need to stop drinking lattes. 🙄

And I guess if you get cancer or your kid gets sick, you should have somehow budgeted millions of dollars so you should or your kid should just die.

You're pretending people will necessarily have no health care under the bill, which is a falsehood. Many people will still qualify for Medicaid which is not going away, eligibility rules are simply tightening. Individuals who are disabled will still qualify for Medicaid. People who are indigent can still qualify for Medicaid. Some low-income aged people will still qualify for Medicaid. People who are neither indigent nor disabled can still buy health insurance if they don't receive it through employment; they'll just have to compensate by spending less elsewhere in their budgets. If they don't want to prioritize health insurance over other spending, that's up to them. People over 65 will still qualify for Medicare, assuming they paid in to the system.

Some people who were able to work but chose not to will no longer be covered. Their choice.

But, it's mere fear-mongering to claim that nobody will qualify for government support for health insurance any more.

You have never dealt with this system then.

My dusabkwd DS's benefits have been stopped more than once by the faulty, clunky IT "upgrades" they have installed.

It takes two ivy leaugue educated parents and their congressional reps staff to get it all sorted out.

Unintentional technology hiccups are irrelevant to policy changes in the law, and don't affect whether or not you are supposed to receive benefits or nice. But nice anecdote, even if off in left field.

You have your head in the sand.

These cuts will generate an earthquake into healthcare in this country. It won't be pretty.

You won't be immune from it.

I will be immune. I have saved enough to pay for my healthcare, by prioritizing it. Anyone could have done that if they wanted to.

Those on Medicaid will still mostly still be on Medicaid, and receiving health care that way. The exceptions will be people who 1) don't want to work but could, and 2) those who could pay for their own health insurance but don't want to because they are prioritizing other discretionary expenses.

How could you have saved for your health care costs when there isn't even a way to assess what the cost of a cancer diagnoses would be? Or lupus? Or a car accident where you are are crushed and suffer a TBI? Yes, you can reasonably budget for well visits and regular teeth cleanings, but there is no way to save for the other. You are delusional.

You insure against unlikely but potentially catastrophic events. The health insurance I have caps my maximum annual out-of-pocket expenses at a level i can afford. I have savings to deal with amount below that.

Similarly, Medicaid caps out-of-pocket expenses for enrollees, although the rules and limits vary from state to state. Generally, premiums, cost-sharing, copayments, and coinsurance cannot exceed more than 5% of a family's income.

The hysteria around the tightening of eligibility rules for Medicaid is almost comical, as much as it is uninformed.

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Anonymous wrote:You sound like a right wing PR bot, lol

No, I just understand the actual provisions in the bill, which will not create a dystopian wasteland populated with deserving but cruelly cast aside hard-working people.

The truly deserving will still receive government support. Others will be required to work for their benefits or to start paying for them because they can but in the past have preferred instead to spend their money elsewhere because government subsidies made such choices possible.

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Anonymous wrote:You sound like a right wing PR bot, lol

No, I just understand the actual provisions in the bill, which will not create a dystopian wasteland populated with deserving but cruelly cast aside hard-working people.

The truly deserving will still receive government support. Others will be required to work for their benefits or to start paying for them because they can but in the past have preferred instead to spend their money elsewhere because government subsidies made such choices possible.

So you’re for 60 yo’s working in fields picking strawberries. While their disabled son is home all day unclean and un-fed. We got it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound like a right wing PR bot, lol

No, I just understand the actual provisions in the bill, which will not create a dystopian wasteland populated with deserving but cruelly cast aside hard-working people.

The truly deserving will still receive government support. Others will be required to work for their benefits or to start paying for them because they can but in the past have preferred instead to spend their money elsewhere because government subsidies made such choices possible.

BS
BS
BS

You didn’t read it.
You didn’t read Project 2025

Racist much?

Why don’t you send your white children to work in factories or pick food???

I can not wait for you to lose your house and your DD be married and cast away after she can no longer breed .

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Anonymous wrote:This bill is going to greatly accelerate proverty and crime by gutting the social safety nets. The numbers they are cutting cannot be obtainted through fraud and waste. The yahoos celebrating now are going to be sorry. They won't be safe even in their nice gate homes from this terrible Trump catastrophe of a bill. Or if they are poor yahoos, their financial world is about to be ended.

Well, according to several posters here, poverty is self-made, so that’s impossible. They don’t care what legislation passes because some people can still pull themselves up by their bootstraps. If they can, apparently everyone in America can no matter their circumstances. They need to stop drinking lattes. 🙄

And I guess if you get cancer or your kid gets sick, you should have somehow budgeted millions of dollars so you should or your kid should just die.

You're pretending people will necessarily have no health care under the bill, which is a falsehood. Many people will still qualify for Medicaid which is not going away, eligibility rules are simply tightening. Individuals who are disabled will still qualify for Medicaid. People who are indigent can still qualify for Medicaid. Some low-income aged people will still qualify for Medicaid. People who are neither indigent nor disabled can still buy health insurance if they don't receive it through employment; they'll just have to compensate by spending less elsewhere in their budgets. If they don't want to prioritize health insurance over other spending, that's up to them. People over 65 will still qualify for Medicare, assuming they paid in to the system.

Some people who were able to work but chose not to will no longer be covered. Their choice.

But, it's mere fear-mongering to claim that nobody will qualify for government support for health insurance any more.

You have never dealt with this system then.

My dusabkwd DS's benefits have been stopped more than once by the faulty, clunky IT "upgrades" they have installed.

It takes two ivy leaugue educated parents and their congressional reps staff to get it all sorted out.

Unintentional technology hiccups are irrelevant to policy changes in the law, and don't affect whether or not you are supposed to receive benefits or nice. But nice anecdote, even if off in left field.

You have your head in the sand.

These cuts will generate an earthquake into healthcare in this country. It won't be pretty.

You won't be immune from it.

I will be immune. I have saved enough to pay for my healthcare, by prioritizing it. Anyone could have done that if they wanted to.

Those on Medicaid will still mostly still be on Medicaid, and receiving health care that way. The exceptions will be people who 1) don't want to work but could, and 2) those who could pay for their own health insurance but don't want to because they are prioritizing other discretionary expenses.

How could you have saved for your health care costs when there isn't even a way to assess what the cost of a cancer diagnoses would be? Or lupus? Or a car accident where you are are crushed and suffer a TBI? Yes, you can reasonably budget for well visits and regular teeth cleanings, but there is no way to save for the other. You are delusional.

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Anonymous wrote:You sound like a right wing PR bot, lol

No, I just understand the actual provisions in the bill, which will not create a dystopian wasteland populated with deserving but cruelly cast aside hard-working people.

The truly deserving will still receive government support. Others will be required to work for their benefits or to start paying for them because they can but in the past have preferred instead to spend their money elsewhere because government subsidies made such choices possible.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound like a right wing PR bot, lol

No, I just understand the actual provisions in the bill, which will not create a dystopian wasteland populated with deserving but cruelly cast aside hard-working people.

The truly deserving will still receive government support. Others will be required to work for their benefits or to start paying for them because they can but in the past have preferred instead to spend their money elsewhere because government subsidies made such choices possible.

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Anonymous wrote:This bill is going to greatly accelerate proverty and crime by gutting the social safety nets. The numbers they are cutting cannot be obtainted through fraud and waste. The yahoos celebrating now are going to be sorry. They won't be safe even in their nice gate homes from this terrible Trump catastrophe of a bill. Or if they are poor yahoos, their financial world is about to be ended.

Well, according to several posters here, poverty is self-made, so that’s impossible. They don’t care what legislation passes because some people can still pull themselves up by their bootstraps. If they can, apparently everyone in America can no matter their circumstances. They need to stop drinking lattes. 🙄

And I guess if you get cancer or your kid gets sick, you should have somehow budgeted millions of dollars so you should or your kid should just die.

You're pretending people will necessarily have no health care under the bill, which is a falsehood. Many people will still qualify for Medicaid which is not going away, eligibility rules are simply tightening. Individuals who are disabled will still qualify for Medicaid. People who are indigent can still qualify for Medicaid. Some low-income aged people will still qualify for Medicaid. People who are neither indigent nor disabled can still buy health insurance if they don't receive it through employment; they'll just have to compensate by spending less elsewhere in their budgets. If they don't want to prioritize health insurance over other spending, that's up to them. People over 65 will still qualify for Medicare, assuming they paid in to the system.

Some people who were able to work but chose not to will no longer be covered. Their choice.

But, it's mere fear-mongering to claim that nobody will qualify for government support for health insurance any more.

You have never dealt with this system then.

My dusabkwd DS's benefits have been stopped more than once by the faulty, clunky IT "upgrades" they have installed.

It takes two ivy leaugue educated parents and their congressional reps staff to get it all sorted out.

Unintentional technology hiccups are irrelevant to policy changes in the law, and don't affect whether or not you are supposed to receive benefits or nice. But nice anecdote, even if off in left field.

You have your head in the sand.

These cuts will generate an earthquake into healthcare in this country. It won't be pretty.

You won't be immune from it.

I will be immune. I have saved enough to pay for my healthcare, by prioritizing it. Anyone could have done that if they wanted to.

Those on Medicaid will still mostly still be on Medicaid, and receiving health care that way. The exceptions will be people who 1) don't want to work but could, and 2) those who could pay for their own health insurance but don't want to because they are prioritizing other discretionary expenses.

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Anonymous wrote:This bill is going to greatly accelerate proverty and crime by gutting the social safety nets. The numbers they are cutting cannot be obtainted through fraud and waste. The yahoos celebrating now are going to be sorry. They won't be safe even in their nice gate homes from this terrible Trump catastrophe of a bill. Or if they are poor yahoos, their financial world is about to be ended.

Well, according to several posters here, poverty is self-made, so that’s impossible. They don’t care what legislation passes because some people can still pull themselves up by their bootstraps. If they can, apparently everyone in America can no matter their circumstances. They need to stop drinking lattes. 🙄

And I guess if you get cancer or your kid gets sick, you should have somehow budgeted millions of dollars so you should or your kid should just die.

You're pretending people will necessarily have no health care under the bill, which is a falsehood. Many people will still qualify for Medicaid which is not going away, eligibility rules are simply tightening. Individuals who are disabled will still qualify for Medicaid. People who are indigent can still qualify for Medicaid. Some low-income aged people will still qualify for Medicaid. People who are neither indigent nor disabled can still buy health insurance if they don't receive it through employment; they'll just have to compensate by spending less elsewhere in their budgets. If they don't want to prioritize health insurance over other spending, that's up to them. People over 65 will still qualify for Medicare, assuming they paid in to the system.

Some people who were able to work but chose not to will no longer be covered. Their choice.

But, it's mere fear-mongering to claim that nobody will qualify for government support for health insurance any more.

You have never dealt with this system then.

My dusabkwd DS's benefits have been stopped more than once by the faulty, clunky IT "upgrades" they have installed.

It takes two ivy leaugue educated parents and their congressional reps staff to get it all sorted out.

Unintentional technology hiccups are irrelevant to policy changes in the law, and don't affect whether or not you are supposed to receive benefits or nice. But nice anecdote, even if off in left field.

You have your head in the sand.

These cuts will generate an earthquake into healthcare in this country. It won't be pretty.

You won't be immune from it.

I will be immune. I have saved enough to pay for my healthcare, by prioritizing it. Anyone could have done that if they wanted to.

Those on Medicaid will still mostly still be on Medicaid, and receiving health care that way. The exceptions will be people who 1) don't want to work but could, and 2) those who could pay for their own health insurance but don't want to because they are prioritizing other discretionary expenses.

Anonymous wrote:You sound like a right wing PR bot, lol