Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Illegal immigrants are not owed any Constitutional rights. They are invaders, not citizens
F. He has never been convicted of a crime in El Salvador OR in the U.S., so sending him to PRISON in El Salvador makes no sense
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That is not true. Stop lying.
He was convicted of a restraining order for domestic violence. His wife admitted he abused her for THREE YEARS. Get your facts straight!
That is not a conviction my friend and it doesn’t negate someone’s right to due process. You can be a shit person and still deserve due process, just like every shit person is entitled to a robust defense in court. And it matters for us all that we don’t just say due process doesn’t matter.
Please share the link when one democrat stood up for her when she was beaten up in 2020 several times or when she was granted a restraining order? Please provide any information about what money or services was provided to her so she does not need to depend on the abuser and bag for his return to support her.
Chris Van Hollen is prioritizing bringing one really “shit person” (who is probably a former gang member) to the USA even though he is a citizen of El Salvador, and not a U.S. citizen.
That’s the gist here.
Seeing the mom from Maryland talk about her murdered daughter at yesterday’s press briefing affected me to the core. Where was Van Hollen for her? She is his constituent. He is a horrible person
Didn’t affect me anymore than all the other mothers and family members who have tragically had a person murdered in this country. I’m not about to through out due process and law because of her one story. Especially when the corrupt Trump administration is using her pain to help destroy the country. And particularly not when the President has 34 felony counts and freed tried and convicted J6 folks and actively supports harm to Americans.
What happen to her is a tragedy. I promise you it’s not bigger than the travesty of police officials who continue to violate the rights of normal Americans.
So little compaction for women from the democrats. Garcia's wife is a victim of domestic abuse and no one is speaking up for her. Why women suddenly became a second class citizens in the eyes of Democrats?
What do you mean nobody is speaking up for her? She is speaking for herself and Democrats are supporting her. Why do you have so little regard for women that you think they can't make their own decisions?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Illegal immigrants are not owed any Constitutional rights. They are invaders, not citizens
F. He has never been convicted of a crime in El Salvador OR in the U.S., so sending him to PRISON in El Salvador makes no sense
.
That is not true. Stop lying.
He was convicted of a restraining order for domestic violence. His wife admitted he abused her for THREE YEARS. Get your facts straight!
That is not a conviction my friend and it doesn’t negate someone’s right to due process. You can be a shit person and still deserve due process, just like every shit person is entitled to a robust defense in court. And it matters for us all that we don’t just say due process doesn’t matter.
Chris Van Hollen is prioritizing bringing one really “shit person” (who is probably a former gang member) to the USA even though he is a citizen of El Salvador, and not a U.S. citizen.
That’s the gist here.
Seeing the mom from Maryland talk about her murdered daughter at yesterday’s press briefing affected me to the core. Where was Van Hollen for her? She is his constituent. He is a horrible person
Didn’t affect me anymore than all the other mothers and family members who have tragically had a person murdered in this country. I’m not about to through out due process and law because of her one story. Especially when the corrupt Trump administration is using her pain to help destroy the country. And particularly not when the President has 34 felony counts and freed tried and convicted J6 folks and actively supports harm to Americans.
What happen to her is a tragedy. I promise you it’s not bigger than the travesty of police officials who continue to violate the rights of normal Americans.
So little compaction for women from the democrats. Garcia's wife is a victim of domestic abuse and no one is speaking up for her. Why women suddenly became a second class citizens in the eyes of Democrats?
What do you mean nobody is speaking up for her? She is speaking for herself and Democrats are supporting her. Why do you have so little regard for women that you think they can't make their own decisions?
Please share the link when one democrat stood up for her when she was beaten up in 2020 several times or when she was granted a restraining order? Please provide any information about what money or services was provided to her so she does not need to depend on the abuser and bag for his return to support her.
I don't know. Which Republicans stood up for the up to 27 women who have accused Trump of sexual abuse or sexual harassment?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain to me what power does a US senator has to go to the foreign country and demand that that country release their own citizen???? Based on what? Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador and El Salvador made decision not to release him. How is it legal for the foreign government to exercise any power over the citizens of El Salvador in El Salvador?
The Salvadorean government is not holding Garcia in prison because he is a citizen of that country. The official reason that the Salvadorean VP gave to Van Hollen for the continued detention of Garcia is that "the Trump administration is paying the government of El Salvador" to keep him locked up. In other words, they are keeping him imprisoned because Trump paid them (and told them) to do so. The corollary of that is that Trump could request that Garcia be released from jail at any time.
Was this reason given in writing or were there a video of his response? I have not seen it anywhere other than a news media publication without any links.
As far as I've seen, there is nothing in writing or video of those remarks since they were made during a non-public meeting of Van Hollen and the VP of El Salvador. The story has been reported in non-MAGA media. Here are some sources:
Reuters:
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/us-senator-lands-el-salvador-seeking-release-wrongly-deported-salvadoran-man-2025-04-16/?utm_source=chatgpt.com
The Baltimore Banner:
https://www.thebaltimorebanner.com/politics-power/national-politics/kilmar-abrego-garcia-van-hollen-el-salvador-XYSWZYRDAJFLVNFBE7PKMOOZZY/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The crazy thing is how many people are just BUYING he was in a gang. There’s no proof or record of this. He went before immigration court and provided compelling documentation and testimony that was found internally and externally consistent and credible that he was *not gang affiliated* but the Trump admin literally just says he was- just says it!- and suddenly people think it’s ok for someone with legal status to be shipped to a foreign prison. You think you’re safe because YOU have never been in a gang? This is the whole point: if Trump gets away with this, you don’t ever have to done anything wrong in your whole life for him to just SAY you did and off you go to foreign prison. You don’t HAVE to have a criminal record or any charges- they’ll just say you did and that’s now good enough. It’s unreal people can’t see how dangerous that is to allow.
Share the link to compelling documentation and testimony, por favor.
No, go find it yourself. It’s easy to do if you actually care anything about the situation.
Anonymous wrote:Surprised “white-knighting” has not come up, since this junket fits the term perfectly.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain to me what power does a US senator has to go to the foreign country and demand that that country release their own citizen???? Based on what? Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador and El Salvador made decision not to release him. How is it legal for the foreign government to exercise any power over the citizens of El Salvador in El Salvador?
The Salvadorean government is not holding Garcia in prison because he is a citizen of that country. The official reason that the Salvadorean VP gave to Van Hollen for the continued detention of Garcia is that "the Trump administration is paying the government of El Salvador" to keep him locked up. In other words, they are keeping him imprisoned because Trump paid them (and told them) to do so. The corollary of that is that Trump could request that Garcia be released from jail at any time.
Was this reason given in writing or were there a video of his response? I have not seen it anywhere other than a news media publication without any links.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The crazy thing is how many people are just BUYING he was in a gang. There’s no proof or record of this. He went before immigration court and provided compelling documentation and testimony that was found internally and externally consistent and credible that he was *not gang affiliated* but the Trump admin literally just says he was- just says it!- and suddenly people think it’s ok for someone with legal status to be shipped to a foreign prison. You think you’re safe because YOU have never been in a gang? This is the whole point: if Trump gets away with this, you don’t ever have to done anything wrong in your whole life for him to just SAY you did and off you go to foreign prison. You don’t HAVE to have a criminal record or any charges- they’ll just say you did and that’s now good enough. It’s unreal people can’t see how dangerous that is to allow.
Share the link to compelling documentation and testimony, por favor.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The crazy thing is how many people are just BUYING he was in a gang. There’s no proof or record of this. He went before immigration court and provided compelling documentation and testimony that was found internally and externally consistent and credible that he was *not gang affiliated* but the Trump admin literally just says he was- just says it!- and suddenly people think it’s ok for someone with legal status to be shipped to a foreign prison. You think you’re safe because YOU have never been in a gang? This is the whole point: if Trump gets away with this, you don’t ever have to done anything wrong in your whole life for him to just SAY you did and off you go to foreign prison. You don’t HAVE to have a criminal record or any charges- they’ll just say you did and that’s now good enough. It’s unreal people can’t see how dangerous that is to allow.
You are making that up.
The actual court documents have been posted. He had a hearing where the prosecution showed evidence of him being a gang member. He had a lawyer and they did not have evidence to dispute it, so he lost. They appealed, and lost again. The immigration court found against him 2x.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Illegal immigrants are not owed any Constitutional rights. They are invaders, not citizens
F. He has never been convicted of a crime in El Salvador OR in the U.S., so sending him to PRISON in El Salvador makes no sense
.
That is not true. Stop lying.
He was convicted of a restraining order for domestic violence. His wife admitted he abused her for THREE YEARS. Get your facts straight!
That is not a conviction my friend and it doesn’t negate someone’s right to due process. You can be a shit person and still deserve due process, just like every shit person is entitled to a robust defense in court. And it matters for us all that we don’t just say due process doesn’t matter.
Chris Van Hollen is prioritizing bringing one really “shit person” (who is probably a former gang member) to the USA even though he is a citizen of El Salvador, and not a U.S. citizen.
That’s the gist here.
Seeing the mom from Maryland talk about her murdered daughter at yesterday’s press briefing affected me to the core. Where was Van Hollen for her? She is his constituent. He is a horrible person
Didn’t affect me anymore than all the other mothers and family members who have tragically had a person murdered in this country. I’m not about to through out due process and law because of her one story. Especially when the corrupt Trump administration is using her pain to help destroy the country. And particularly not when the President has 34 felony counts and freed tried and convicted J6 folks and actively supports harm to Americans.
What happen to her is a tragedy. I promise you it’s not bigger than the travesty of police officials who continue to violate the rights of normal Americans.
So little compaction for women from the democrats. Garcia's wife is a victim of domestic abuse and no one is speaking up for her. Why women suddenly became a second class citizens in the eyes of Democrats?
What do you mean nobody is speaking up for her? She is speaking for herself and Democrats are supporting her. Why do you have so little regard for women that you think they can't make their own decisions?
Please share the link when one democrat stood up for her when she was beaten up in 2020 several times or when she was granted a restraining order? Please provide any information about what money or services was provided to her so she does not need to depend on the abuser and bag for his return to support her.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Illegal immigrants are not owed any Constitutional rights. They are invaders, not citizens
F. He has never been convicted of a crime in El Salvador OR in the U.S., so sending him to PRISON in El Salvador makes no sense
.
That is not true. Stop lying.
He was convicted of a restraining order for domestic violence. His wife admitted he abused her for THREE YEARS. Get your facts straight!
That is not a conviction my friend and it doesn’t negate someone’s right to due process. You can be a shit person and still deserve due process, just like every shit person is entitled to a robust defense in court. And it matters for us all that we don’t just say due process doesn’t matter.
Chris Van Hollen is prioritizing bringing one really “shit person” (who is probably a former gang member) to the USA even though he is a citizen of El Salvador, and not a U.S. citizen.
That’s the gist here.
No, he’s prioritizing due process, rule of law, checks and balances, and the US Constitution.
Not by going to El Salvador to grand stand for himself. The Supreme Court is the venue now for prioritizing due process.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain to me what power does a US senator has to go to the foreign country and demand that that country release their own citizen???? Based on what? Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador and El Salvador made decision not to release him. How is it legal for the foreign government to exercise any power over the citizens of El Salvador in El Salvador?
Because ES is only keeping him locked up bc the US is paying them to do so. If we stopped giving our money to ES he’d be released.
A foreign country can choose who they incarcerate based on their own rules. What power does US have to tell them what to do with their own citizens?