Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 10:23     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/04/13/tufts-student-rumeysa-ozturk-rubio-trump/

No evidence linking Tufts student to antisemitism or terrorism, State Dept. office found

An internal memo, prepared days before Rumeysa Ozturk was detained by ICE agents, raises doubts about the Trump administration’s claims that she supports Hamas.


Thank you for the update. I’ve been following the case closely. So basically Rubio et al were LYING. But apparently he has discretion to deport whomever he wants.


This is chilling news. So then what was the purpose of her awful arrest? To bring fear to non Americans studying in our country? Force them to leave out of fear? Use her as an example of how to behave? It’s sickening, really..


The point of her arrest is to chill speech that is critical of Israel. The though police are coming.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 10:19     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/04/13/tufts-student-rumeysa-ozturk-rubio-trump/

No evidence linking Tufts student to antisemitism or terrorism, State Dept. office found

An internal memo, prepared days before Rumeysa Ozturk was detained by ICE agents, raises doubts about the Trump administration’s claims that she supports Hamas.


Thank you for the update. I’ve been following the case closely. So basically Rubio et al were LYING. But apparently he has discretion to deport whomever he wants.


This is chilling news. So then what was the purpose of her awful arrest? To bring fear to non Americans studying in our country? Force them to leave out of fear? Use her as an example of how to behave? It’s sickening, really..


Apparently Canary Mission put her on a list of students they alleged were activists. So the US government is now just an arm of anonymous pro-Israel activists
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 08:45     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE

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Anonymous wrote:Are all the international students here 30 years old?


You've never met a grad student? Also, college is not high school. People can and do attend at any age.


She is a Ph.D student. Went to Columbia for undergrad.


Yes they come over here on never ending student visas and get multiple degrees under the protection of colleges hoping to give them a pathway to citizenship. I know of one so called professor who has 4 masters degrees all paid for by the university to prolong their stay as long as possible. The chain migration through the guide of education needs to be looked at by DHS


I guess you missed the part when your Dear Leader said he'd like to give green cards to foreign students. Get with the program, MAGA.

“What I want to do, and what I will do, is — you graduate from a college, I think you should get automatically, as part of your diploma, a green card to be able to stay in this country,” Trump said during a June interview with “The All-In Podcast.”

Trump has vowed to give green cards to college grads
https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/06/politics/green-cards-college-graduates-trump-cec/index.html
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 08:31     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are all the international students here 30 years old?


You've never met a grad student? Also, college is not high school. People can and do attend at any age.


She is a Ph.D student. Went to Columbia for undergrad.


Yes they come over here on never ending student visas and get multiple degrees under the protection of colleges hoping to give them a pathway to citizenship. I know of one so called professor who has 4 masters degrees all paid for by the university to prolong their stay as long as possible. The chain migration through the guide of education needs to be looked at by DHS


How does an academic staying here for X amount of time, and/or eventually becoming a citizen, harm you?
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 08:30     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are all the international students here 30 years old?


You've never met a grad student? Also, college is not high school. People can and do attend at any age.


She is a Ph.D student. Went to Columbia for undergrad.


Yes they come over here on never ending student visas and get multiple degrees under the protection of colleges hoping to give them a pathway to citizenship. I know of one so called professor who has 4 masters degrees all paid for by the university to prolong their stay as long as possible. The chain migration through the guide of education needs to be looked at by DHS


Why does this bother you so much? Smart, hard working people that contribute to our economy don't deserve a pathway to citizenship?
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 08:27     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE

Anonymous wrote:I worry about my naturalized citizen parents who openly post on social media against Trump - are they next?? Seriously I am starting to be concerned, democracy is done.


Everyone losing their mind over faux college visas to import anti American terrorists
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 08:25     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Are all the international students here 30 years old?


You've never met a grad student? Also, college is not high school. People can and do attend at any age.


She is a Ph.D student. Went to Columbia for undergrad.


Yes they come over here on never ending student visas and get multiple degrees under the protection of colleges hoping to give them a pathway to citizenship. I know of one so called professor who has 4 masters degrees all paid for by the university to prolong their stay as long as possible. The chain migration through the guide of education needs to be looked at by DHS
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 08:12     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE

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Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.


How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.


You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.


The higher the level of education, the more specialized it becomes. Obtaining a PhD means 4-5 years of focus and research on a topic that her supervisor would be an expert on. That expertise was probably not available in her home country because research dollars can be limited or the academic culture overall focuses more on teaching and not research.

I don’t see why she wouldn’t continue her studies at Tufts once she’s released. “Her time in the US is at the end”. Why so dramatic? That, and your aggressive tone, gives the impression that you’re actually a small, irrelevant, person in real life who needs to pump himself (or herself) up with bold dramatic statements like “Her time in the US is at the end”. (Quake, shiver…)





DP

The individuals callously indifferent or even gleeful over her abduction would squeal in outrage if their people were being targeted and spirited to a domestic blacksite for indeterminate periods of time. And they know it. But they live and breathe on a perverse belief that they are better than …


No, they just behave better than... Stir the pot, sometimes the pot gets sick of it.


If you don’t like the U.S. Constitution, you can leave the country. Most of us believe in due process and first amendment rights. We will stay and fight.


Good luck "fighting" against lawful activity you just don't like. Non-citizens run their mouths, demonstrate, and otherwise agitate against this country or its allies at their own risk. They have no absolute rights to residence. They can either conduct themselves prudently, or not. There may be consequences, entirely legal consequences, for annoying the host government.


DP

Who gives AF about criticism of our so-called “allies”? Since when does that cross a line of any consequence?


Obviously, it now crosses a line, and government policymakers care. That you don't is not germane to anything.


What a weird statement. so if Trump wakes up one morning and says anyone who criticizes South African apartheid should be put on a plane to El Salvador prison you'd be ok with that?


Apartheid is not terrorism. Pretty important difference.

WTF. Apartheid is very much a form of terrorism. I imagine you are part of the ruling class of apartheidism, and therefore it is just run of the mill for people like you.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 08:09     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/04/13/tufts-student-rumeysa-ozturk-rubio-trump/

No evidence linking Tufts student to antisemitism or terrorism, State Dept. office found

An internal memo, prepared days before Rumeysa Ozturk was detained by ICE agents, raises doubts about the Trump administration’s claims that she supports Hamas.


Thank you for the update. I’ve been following the case closely. So basically Rubio et al were LYING. But apparently he has discretion to deport whomever he wants.


Not without due process. Our government is literally just snatching people off the street and detaining them without cause.
Anonymous
Post 04/14/2025 05:31     Subject: Re:Tufts student detained by ICE

This case is really sad and it is just ridiculous that she was detained. Definitely chilling.

She has filed in court alleging that she has received inadequate medical care for her asthma and being denied access to a Qur'an and prayer mat.

https://www.aclum.org/sites/default/files/field_documents/2025-04-10_petr_motion_for_release_return_ex_9_ozturk_82-10.pdf
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2025 22:51     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/04/13/tufts-student-rumeysa-ozturk-rubio-trump/

No evidence linking Tufts student to antisemitism or terrorism, State Dept. office found

An internal memo, prepared days before Rumeysa Ozturk was detained by ICE agents, raises doubts about the Trump administration’s claims that she supports Hamas.


Thank you for the update. I’ve been following the case closely. So basically Rubio et al were LYING. But apparently he has discretion to deport whomever he wants.


This is chilling news. So then what was the purpose of her awful arrest? To bring fear to non Americans studying in our country? Force them to leave out of fear? Use her as an example of how to behave? It’s sickening, really..
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2025 21:05     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/04/13/tufts-student-rumeysa-ozturk-rubio-trump/

No evidence linking Tufts student to antisemitism or terrorism, State Dept. office found

An internal memo, prepared days before Rumeysa Ozturk was detained by ICE agents, raises doubts about the Trump administration’s claims that she supports Hamas.


Thank you for the update. I’ve been following the case closely. So basically Rubio et al were LYING. But apparently he has discretion to deport whomever he wants.
Anonymous
Post 04/13/2025 20:41     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/04/13/tufts-student-rumeysa-ozturk-rubio-trump/

No evidence linking Tufts student to antisemitism or terrorism, State Dept. office found

An internal memo, prepared days before Rumeysa Ozturk was detained by ICE agents, raises doubts about the Trump administration’s claims that she supports Hamas.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2025 19:13     Subject: Re:Tufts student detained by ICE

Anonymous
Post 03/29/2025 20:30     Subject: Tufts student detained by ICE

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:She has no future in the U.S. Even if immigration court stops her deportation, she has no pathway to legal status here. She will never get a H1B visa, she will never get a green card let alone citizenship. If her deportation is stopped she will live as a person in limbo in the U.S. if that’s her choice instead of returning to Turkey each to their own.


How is this irrelevant? She was a PhD student or postdoctoral student trying to get an education she can’t get in her home country.
That might be an unfamiliar concept to you - that someone would emigrate just to get a better education and not to try to become a US citizen.


You can’t be a phd student in Turkey? If you are trying to emigrate to get a better education keep your head down and not create waves in your host country. That’s not an unfamiliar concept either. Her time in the US is at an end. If her deportation is stopped she can’t study, get a job, do anything here. Cut her losses and go back to her own country, which somehow I bet she doesn’t want to do.


The higher the level of education, the more specialized it becomes. Obtaining a PhD means 4-5 years of focus and research on a topic that her supervisor would be an expert on. That expertise was probably not available in her home country because research dollars can be limited or the academic culture overall focuses more on teaching and not research.

I don’t see why she wouldn’t continue her studies at Tufts once she’s released. “Her time in the US is at the end”. Why so dramatic? That, and your aggressive tone, gives the impression that you’re actually a small, irrelevant, person in real life who needs to pump himself (or herself) up with bold dramatic statements like “Her time in the US is at the end”. (Quake, shiver…)





DP

The individuals callously indifferent or even gleeful over her abduction would squeal in outrage if their people were being targeted and spirited to a domestic blacksite for indeterminate periods of time. And they know it. But they live and breathe on a perverse belief that they are better than …


No, they just behave better than... Stir the pot, sometimes the pot gets sick of it.


If you don’t like the U.S. Constitution, you can leave the country. Most of us believe in due process and first amendment rights. We will stay and fight.


Good luck "fighting" against lawful activity you just don't like. Non-citizens run their mouths, demonstrate, and otherwise agitate against this country or its allies at their own risk. They have no absolute rights to residence. They can either conduct themselves prudently, or not. There may be consequences, entirely legal consequences, for annoying the host government.


DP

Who gives AF about criticism of our so-called “allies”? Since when does that cross a line of any consequence?


Obviously, it now crosses a line, and government policymakers care. That you don't is not germane to anything.


What a weird statement. so if Trump wakes up one morning and says anyone who criticizes South African apartheid should be put on a plane to El Salvador prison you'd be ok with that?


Apartheid is not terrorism. Pretty important difference.


It was not terrorism to whom?