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Anonymous wrote:I’m still convinced they didn’t know he had a green card and thought they were dealing with a student visa. Now they are scrambling to come up with legal justification. Someone screwed up here and they just don’t want to admit it. I don’t actually think they wanted to pick this big fight right now.

Exactly!

Whoopie, we tipped out hand about how well treat even American citizens we don't like.

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Anonymous wrote:Judge has blocked his deportation

https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judge-blocks-trump-administration-from-deporting-pro-palestinian-activist-mahmoud-khalil-203724926.html

No he hasn't. This judge has no jurisdiction over Khalil.

LOL, did you go to the Trump University Law School?

Jesse Furman from the Southern District of New York doesn't have jurisdiction to hear a habeas petition of someone being held in Louisiana.

The filing was made when he was still in the NJ area. He was kidnapped by the government and shipped off to a GOP friendly circuit court jurisdiction.

Well, he is actively campaigning for and supporting people who engage in kidnapping (as well as torture and murder) so he probably understands the logistics of kidnapping better than most might. At least he’s got that going for him.

I actually don’t support this to be clear but I think the hysterics about “kidnapping” here are ridiculous. Khalil knows what actual kidnapping is — he has openly supported it. This is not kidnapping and the misuse of the phrase is appalling.

Your logic is appalling

This is kidnapping and your side is trying to brush it under the carpet so anyone else who might do something Trump won't like doesn't get their wind up and decide to band together.

Coz that is a lot of people he has targeted.

I literally wrote “I actually don’t support this to be clear” in my post. Also, I voted for Harris.

But facts and grounding in reality have never been the provenance of the pro-Palestine movement. So your inability to read doesn’t surprise me.

I know what you wrote.

It's not legal
And it's a dictator move

You can't just take people like this in country. Full stop

Well, it does seem to be something Khalil is quite in support of himself. But I agree that the US should have higher standards than Hamas, even if Khalil himself is a strong supporter of kidnapping innocents, including babies.

That having been said, this isn’t kidnapping and it’s offensive to describe it as such.

Armed officers physically removed him from his residence without legal cause to do so. How do you define it otherwise?

And then absconded to a secret location where his family and attorney cannot check if he is alive or dead.

He was kidnapped by plain clothes law enforcement of some kind, probably illegally, probably with no warrant, no probable cause, no due process.

This is dictatorship in action.

They will come for you next if you don't keep quiet, says the dictator.

Chilling. Horrifying. Nazi Germany II.

It seems you're confusing an arrest by law enforcement with the actions of Hamas on Oct. 7. The latter was kidnapping, along with rape and murder. The former can be litigated in court. The latter is being dealt with more definitively by the IDF.

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You keep going on and on. Why don't you start your own thread?

This is pertains American immigration laws and right of due process. Your PTSD may not get why people who don't care about Israel or Hamas (I certainly don't) would be scrutinizing this move by Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:Judge has blocked his deportation

https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judge-blocks-trump-administration-from-deporting-pro-palestinian-activist-mahmoud-khalil-203724926.html

No he hasn't. This judge has no jurisdiction over Khalil.

LOL, did you go to the Trump University Law School?

Jesse Furman from the Southern District of New York doesn't have jurisdiction to hear a habeas petition of someone being held in Louisiana.

The filing was made when he was still in the NJ area. He was kidnapped by the government and shipped off to a GOP friendly circuit court jurisdiction.

Well, he is actively campaigning for and supporting people who engage in kidnapping (as well as torture and murder) so he probably understands the logistics of kidnapping better than most might. At least he’s got that going for him.

I actually don’t support this to be clear but I think the hysterics about “kidnapping” here are ridiculous. Khalil knows what actual kidnapping is — he has openly supported it. This is not kidnapping and the misuse of the phrase is appalling.

Your logic is appalling

This is kidnapping and your side is trying to brush it under the carpet so anyone else who might do something Trump won't like doesn't get their wind up and decide to band together.

Coz that is a lot of people he has targeted.

I literally wrote “I actually don’t support this to be clear” in my post. Also, I voted for Harris.

But facts and grounding in reality have never been the provenance of the pro-Palestine movement. So your inability to read doesn’t surprise me.

I know what you wrote.

It's not legal
And it's a dictator move

You can't just take people like this in country. Full stop

Well, it does seem to be something Khalil is quite in support of himself. But I agree that the US should have higher standards than Hamas, even if Khalil himself is a strong supporter of kidnapping innocents, including babies.

That having been said, this isn’t kidnapping and it’s offensive to describe it as such.

Armed officers physically removed him from his residence without legal cause to do so. How do you define it otherwise?

And then absconded to a secret location where his family and attorney cannot check if he is alive or dead.

He was kidnapped by plain clothes law enforcement of some kind, probably illegally, probably with no warrant, no probable cause, no due process.

This is dictatorship in action.

They will come for you next if you don't keep quiet, says the dictator.

Chilling. Horrifying. Nazi Germany II.

It seems you're confusing an arrest by law enforcement with the actions of Hamas on Oct. 7. The latter was kidnapping, along with rape and murder. The former can be litigated in court. The latter is being dealt with more definitively by the IDF.

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Anonymous wrote:I have not read this entire thread, but incitement to violence and threats are not protected free speech. So it will depend on what he said/did specifically, and encouraged others to do in terms of imminent action.

He has rights separate from whatever crime you think he committed.

Still no charges so maybe it's not as clear cut as you think

This arrest and shuffling him off to Louisiana is very suspect but what to you expect from such a crap administration

Anonymous wrote:I’m still convinced they didn’t know he had a green card and thought they were dealing with a student visa. Now they are scrambling to come up with legal justification. Someone screwed up here and they just don’t want to admit it. I don’t actually think they wanted to pick this big fight right now.

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Anonymous wrote:Judge has blocked his deportation

https://news.yahoo.com/federal-judge-blocks-trump-administration-from-deporting-pro-palestinian-activist-mahmoud-khalil-203724926.html

No he hasn't. This judge has no jurisdiction over Khalil.

LOL, did you go to the Trump University Law School?

Jesse Furman from the Southern District of New York doesn't have jurisdiction to hear a habeas petition of someone being held in Louisiana.

The filing was made when he was still in the NJ area. He was kidnapped by the government and shipped off to a GOP friendly circuit court jurisdiction.

Well, he is actively campaigning for and supporting people who engage in kidnapping (as well as torture and murder) so he probably understands the logistics of kidnapping better than most might. At least he’s got that going for him.

I actually don’t support this to be clear but I think the hysterics about “kidnapping” here are ridiculous. Khalil knows what actual kidnapping is — he has openly supported it. This is not kidnapping and the misuse of the phrase is appalling.

Your logic is appalling

This is kidnapping and your side is trying to brush it under the carpet so anyone else who might do something Trump won't like doesn't get their wind up and decide to band together.

Coz that is a lot of people he has targeted.

I literally wrote “I actually don’t support this to be clear” in my post. Also, I voted for Harris.

But facts and grounding in reality have never been the provenance of the pro-Palestine movement. So your inability to read doesn’t surprise me.

I know what you wrote.

It's not legal
And it's a dictator move

You can't just take people like this in country. Full stop

Well, it does seem to be something Khalil is quite in support of himself. But I agree that the US should have higher standards than Hamas, even if Khalil himself is a strong supporter of kidnapping innocents, including babies.

That having been said, this isn’t kidnapping and it’s offensive to describe it as such.

Armed officers physically removed him from his residence without legal cause to do so. How do you define it otherwise?

And then absconded to a secret location where his family and attorney cannot check if he is alive or dead.

He was kidnapped by plain clothes law enforcement of some kind, probably illegally, probably with no warrant, no probable cause, no due process.

This is dictatorship in action.

They will come for you next if you don't keep quiet, says the dictator.

Chilling. Horrifying. Nazi Germany II.

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Seriously- this guy was a few steps away from driving a stolen Uber into Times Square.

He is getting off easy. Send him back to wherever and let IDF or one of our drones deal with him.

Left is getting worked up about an agitator looking for a fight - he will get it; just out of US.

This man was a Columbia graduate with an eight months pregnant wife.

This is terrifying and no wonder we have a terror problem at all with the mentality that you just mentioned.

What if you were taken from your home at random thanks to your religion? That used to happen to Jews not even 100 years ago you know. You’re supporting a Zionist Gestapo

No equivalence. He was arrested not at random but for his conduct, not his religious affiliation. His wife's pregnancy is irrelevant to anything, as is the fact he is married, or if he had 19 children already.

You may or may not think his conduct rises to the level of a deportable offense. That's a function of the conduct and the relevant law.

It's unhelpful to make patently unsupportable and clearly wrong claims about the basis for his detention.

Arrested without a warrant?

Warrantless arrests are permissible under many circumstances.