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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

Laws are for enemies.

Honestly, at this point the frankly antisemitic focus of international law and institutions has delegitimized it and hampered its ability to be persuasive to Israel at all (and of course persuasion is the only force available to international laws). The absurd condemnation of Israel protecting its border by the UN, and meanwhile Turkey is literally taking Aleppo to the north, is just the latest example. If you want Israel to listen to you, you need to drop the antisemitism.

Interesting. So you think Israel ought to be able to invade and annex territory at will?

Israel never cared about international law so let's not pretend this rose ever bloomed.

Antisemitism and holding Israel accountable for what it does are two different things. But I understand you would greatly prefer it if the charge of antisemitism precluded any accountability for Israel's actions at all.

Israel protecting the border and destroying weapons is 100% justified. Your focus on Israel (while ignoring Turkey which is *actually* capturing Syrian territory to the north) shows exactly what underlies your reasoning

Turkey doesn't pretend to be the moralest.

Israel can protect its border from inside the border.

Why does Israel want Syria to not have air defense?

There is no “Syria” right now. It’s a failed state and Israel is destroying the weapons and ships left behind.

And yeah, I’m so sure that Turkey “not pretending” is the reason you are hyper focused on Israel. Of course the trope of Jews being duplicitous is an ancient one.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

Laws are for enemies.

Honestly, at this point the frankly antisemitic focus of international law and institutions has delegitimized it and hampered its ability to be persuasive to Israel at all (and of course persuasion is the only force available to international laws). The absurd condemnation of Israel protecting its border by the UN, and meanwhile Turkey is literally taking Aleppo to the north, is just the latest example. If you want Israel to listen to you, you need to drop the antisemitism.

Interesting. So you think Israel ought to be able to invade and annex territory at will?

Israel never cared about international law so let's not pretend this rose ever bloomed.

Antisemitism and holding Israel accountable for what it does are two different things. But I understand you would greatly prefer it if the charge of antisemitism precluded any accountability for Israel's actions at all.

Israel protecting the border and destroying weapons is 100% justified. Your focus on Israel (while ignoring Turkey which is *actually* capturing Syrian territory to the north) shows exactly what underlies your reasoning

Turkey doesn't pretend to be the moralest.

Israel can protect its border from inside the border.

Why does Israel want Syria to not have air defense?

There is no “Syria” right now. It’s a failed state and Israel is destroying the weapons and ships left behind.

And yeah, I’m so sure that Turkey “not pretending” is the reason you are hyper focused on Israel. Of course the trope of Jews being duplicitous is an ancient one.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

Laws are for enemies.

Honestly, at this point the frankly antisemitic focus of international law and institutions has delegitimized it and hampered its ability to be persuasive to Israel at all (and of course persuasion is the only force available to international laws). The absurd condemnation of Israel protecting its border by the UN, and meanwhile Turkey is literally taking Aleppo to the north, is just the latest example. If you want Israel to listen to you, you need to drop the antisemitism.

Interesting. So you think Israel ought to be able to invade and annex territory at will?

Israel never cared about international law so let's not pretend this rose ever bloomed.

Antisemitism and holding Israel accountable for what it does are two different things. But I understand you would greatly prefer it if the charge of antisemitism precluded any accountability for Israel's actions at all.

Israel protecting the border and destroying weapons is 100% justified. Your focus on Israel (while ignoring Turkey which is *actually* capturing Syrian territory to the north) shows exactly what underlies your reasoning

Turkey doesn't pretend to be the moralest.

Israel can protect its border from inside the border.

Why does Israel want Syria to not have air defense?

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

Laws are for enemies.

Honestly, at this point the frankly antisemitic focus of international law and institutions has delegitimized it and hampered its ability to be persuasive to Israel at all (and of course persuasion is the only force available to international laws). The absurd condemnation of Israel protecting its border by the UN, and meanwhile Turkey is literally taking Aleppo to the north, is just the latest example. If you want Israel to listen to you, you need to drop the antisemitism.

Interesting. So you think Israel ought to be able to invade and annex territory at will?

Israel never cared about international law so let's not pretend this rose ever bloomed.

Antisemitism and holding Israel accountable for what it does are two different things. But I understand you would greatly prefer it if the charge of antisemitism precluded any accountability for Israel's actions at all.

Israel protecting the border and destroying weapons is 100% justified. Your focus on Israel (while ignoring Turkey which is *actually* capturing Syrian territory to the north) shows exactly what underlies your reasoning

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

Its really not good for us at all if history is any indication. We "diminished" Russia in Afghanistan and got 9/11, forever wars and Patriot Act as a reward. We got rid of Sadam and Qaddafi and set the whole region on fire, many dead Americans, and swamped our European allies with destabilizing migration. Not really sure what we got in exchange for all that.

PP here who has been defending Israel. I actually 100% agree with this. My main issue is that Israel is not a great power manipulating abroad - it’s a nation (a tiny one) with legitimate security interests.

"Legitimate security interests" do not include impunity from any action.

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

Laws are for enemies.

Honestly, at this point the frankly antisemitic focus of international law and institutions has delegitimized it and hampered its ability to be persuasive to Israel at all (and of course persuasion is the only force available to international laws). The absurd condemnation of Israel protecting its border by the UN, and meanwhile Turkey is literally taking Aleppo to the north, is just the latest example. If you want Israel to listen to you, you need to drop the antisemitism.

Interesting. So you think Israel ought to be able to invade and annex territory at will?

Israel never cared about international law so let's not pretend this rose ever bloomed.

Antisemitism and holding Israel accountable for what it does are two different things. But I understand you would greatly prefer it if the charge of antisemitism precluded any accountability for Israel's actions at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel does not become the safest country in the world for Jews by making more wars and enemies next door. They are actually strengthening the Palestinian side. Assad didnt even like Palestinians that much. Syria and Lebanon have a apathy/contentious relationship with Palestinians but when Israel annexes their land despite not even having enough citizens to fill up these places, they will certainly lose the apathy toward the Israel Palestine situation.

We shall see what happens with this. Right now, it's the Assad government abandoning some high ground positions near the Golan Heights. Israel, not unreasonably in a chaotic time, took care of some high ground, tactical positioning before any other militia could take it. Seems sensible.

But if Syria gets their act together, and the Israelis are still there when Syria is all good, then it becomes a problem.

There is no strengthening the Palestinian situation regardless of anything, They made a dumbass decision siding with Iran and invading Israel and committing all those atrocities. The fall of Assad is yet another repercussion of 10/7. Palestinians have no seat at any table anymore in the Middle East. It's stupid decision after stupid decision - from 1947 onwards. The death of Sinwar, the destruction of Hamas and Hezbollah, and the fall of Assad doesn't fix it. Palestinians have no leverage over anything after their breathtakingly stupid decisions.

OMG. Israel is saving Syria by invading it and bombing civilians. Israel has made Syria an enemy like they do to everyone I the Middle East. Hamas and Hezbollah created by Israel.

I am done with Israel. It is the same as Nazi Germany. It will be a great day in the progress of the humanity when it is over run, it leadership is brought in chains to the Hague for trial and punishment and the prisons/dungeons of Israel are thrown open. Free Palestine from the oppressors of humanity.

They aren’t attacking civilians in Syria. They destroyed Sryian weapons including chemical weapons.

And the navy.

And air defense.

And the passport office.

And helped themselves to a chunk of Syrian land.

Quick question: what is the reason one might possibly strip a country from any means to defend itself? Hmmmm.....It's not like it has a neighbor that is gagging for more lebenstraum....or does it?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

Laws are for enemies.

Honestly, at this point the frankly antisemitic focus of international law and institutions has delegitimized it and hampered its ability to be persuasive to Israel at all (and of course persuasion is the only force available to international laws). The absurd condemnation of Israel protecting its border by the UN, and meanwhile Turkey is literally taking Aleppo to the north, is just the latest example. If you want Israel to listen to you, you need to drop the antisemitism.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

Its really not good for us at all if history is any indication. We "diminished" Russia in Afghanistan and got 9/11, forever wars and Patriot Act as a reward. We got rid of Sadam and Qaddafi and set the whole region on fire, many dead Americans, and swamped our European allies with destabilizing migration. Not really sure what we got in exchange for all that.

PP here who has been defending Israel. I actually 100% agree with this. My main issue is that Israel is not a great power manipulating abroad - it’s a nation (a tiny one) with legitimate security interests.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel does not become the safest country in the world for Jews by making more wars and enemies next door. They are actually strengthening the Palestinian side. Assad didnt even like Palestinians that much. Syria and Lebanon have a apathy/contentious relationship with Palestinians but when Israel annexes their land despite not even having enough citizens to fill up these places, they will certainly lose the apathy toward the Israel Palestine situation.

We shall see what happens with this. Right now, it's the Assad government abandoning some high ground positions near the Golan Heights. Israel, not unreasonably in a chaotic time, took care of some high ground, tactical positioning before any other militia could take it. Seems sensible.

But if Syria gets their act together, and the Israelis are still there when Syria is all good, then it becomes a problem.

There is no strengthening the Palestinian situation regardless of anything, They made a dumbass decision siding with Iran and invading Israel and committing all those atrocities. The fall of Assad is yet another repercussion of 10/7. Palestinians have no seat at any table anymore in the Middle East. It's stupid decision after stupid decision - from 1947 onwards. The death of Sinwar, the destruction of Hamas and Hezbollah, and the fall of Assad doesn't fix it. Palestinians have no leverage over anything after their breathtakingly stupid decisions.

OMG. Israel is saving Syria by invading it and bombing civilians. Israel has made Syria an enemy like they do to everyone I the Middle East. Hamas and Hezbollah created by Israel.

I am done with Israel. It is the same as Nazi Germany. It will be a great day in the progress of the humanity when it is over run, it leadership is brought in chains to the Hague for trial and punishment and the prisons/dungeons of Israel are thrown open. Free Palestine from the oppressors of humanity.

They aren’t attacking civilians in Syria. They destroyed Sryian weapons including chemical weapons.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel does not become the safest country in the world for Jews by making more wars and enemies next door. They are actually strengthening the Palestinian side. Assad didnt even like Palestinians that much. Syria and Lebanon have a apathy/contentious relationship with Palestinians but when Israel annexes their land despite not even having enough citizens to fill up these places, they will certainly lose the apathy toward the Israel Palestine situation.

We shall see what happens with this. Right now, it's the Assad government abandoning some high ground positions near the Golan Heights. Israel, not unreasonably in a chaotic time, took care of some high ground, tactical positioning before any other militia could take it. Seems sensible.

But if Syria gets their act together, and the Israelis are still there when Syria is all good, then it becomes a problem.

There is no strengthening the Palestinian situation regardless of anything, They made a dumbass decision siding with Iran and invading Israel and committing all those atrocities. The fall of Assad is yet another repercussion of 10/7. Palestinians have no seat at any table anymore in the Middle East. It's stupid decision after stupid decision - from 1947 onwards. The death of Sinwar, the destruction of Hamas and Hezbollah, and the fall of Assad doesn't fix it. Palestinians have no leverage over anything after their breathtakingly stupid decisions.

OMG. Israel is saving Syria by invading it and bombing civilians. Israel has made Syria an enemy like they do to everyone I the Middle East. Hamas and Hezbollah created by Israel.

I am done with Israel. It is the same as Nazi Germany. It will be a great day in the progress of the humanity when it is over run, it leadership is brought in chains to the Hague for trial and punishment and the prisons/dungeons of Israel are thrown open. Free Palestine from the oppressors of humanity.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

Its really not good for us at all if history is any indication. We "diminished" Russia in Afghanistan and got 9/11, forever wars and Patriot Act as a reward. We got rid of Sadam and Qaddafi and set the whole region on fire, many dead Americans, and swamped our European allies with destabilizing migration. Not really sure what we got in exchange for all that.

“We” got 9/11 because Israel and “our” support for genocide of the Palestinians.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel does not become the safest country in the world for Jews by making more wars and enemies next door. They are actually strengthening the Palestinian side. Assad didnt even like Palestinians that much. Syria and Lebanon have a apathy/contentious relationship with Palestinians but when Israel annexes their land despite not even having enough citizens to fill up these places, they will certainly lose the apathy toward the Israel Palestine situation.

We shall see what happens with this. Right now, it's the Assad government abandoning some high ground positions near the Golan Heights. Israel, not unreasonably in a chaotic time, took care of some high ground, tactical positioning before any other militia could take it. Seems sensible.

But if Syria gets their act together, and the Israelis are still there when Syria is all good, then it becomes a problem.

There is no strengthening the Palestinian situation regardless of anything, They made a dumbass decision siding with Iran and invading Israel and committing all those atrocities. The fall of Assad is yet another repercussion of 10/7. Palestinians have no seat at any table anymore in the Middle East. It's stupid decision after stupid decision - from 1947 onwards. The death of Sinwar, the destruction of Hamas and Hezbollah, and the fall of Assad doesn't fix it. Palestinians have no leverage over anything after their breathtakingly stupid decisions.

Is it fair to blame Palestinians for what Hamas did ?

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Anonymous wrote:It's crazy how America is supporting and celebrating an anti American, Al Qaeda spin off group to become the government in Syria.

We go against our own interests to serve Israel's.

Not really. It's in our interest to see the Islamic Republic of Iran and Russia diminished in the region.

Which they are.

At the present moment - and this could change very quickly - the new leadership in Syria seems fairly sane. And if the baddies like the hardcore Islamic fanatics come to power, they won't have the weapons - from chemical weapons to artillery - to be a nuisance to anyone else - thanks to Israel and Turkey.

It's all good at the moment for the US.

Its really not good for us at all if history is any indication. We "diminished" Russia in Afghanistan and got 9/11, forever wars and Patriot Act as a reward. We got rid of Sadam and Qaddafi and set the whole region on fire, many dead Americans, and swamped our European allies with destabilizing migration. Not really sure what we got in exchange for all that.