Anonymous wrote:So you think what OP did was stupid?

Anonymous wrote:I have a 7 year old and I probably would have taken her in only because prescriptions could take a while and lines can be long.

I wrote on another thread that I used to leave my boys in the car when I bought milk at 7-11 or picking up dry cleaning. I could see the car and then through the window.

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Anonymous wrote:Parenting standards have changed so much. In the 80s nobody would question a 7 year old left in the car. Now we do. I won't be surprised when there are fewer babies born as the laws and requirements become even stricter for the next generation.

I don't think people are not having childten because children can't be left in the car!

How about women are tired of doing it all abd not getting help!

Np. Sometimes the help we need is to leave the kid in the car for 5 min. It’s hard dragging them in for tiny errands like dropping off a package at ups

Agree. It seems like such a small thing but it adds up. I live in a place where I can never leave my kid alone in a car (due to both the law and the fact that my area really just is not safe) and it creates all these logistical challenges that are a pain to figure out. If I take a sick kid to urgent care and they call in a prescription I have to take the sick kid into the pharmacy to pick it up on the way home or I have to take the kid home and wait for my spouse to get home from the office and then go get it (delaying when the kid can take medication). If we take our cat to the vet I have to finagle the kid and the cat from the car to the door of the vet which sucks because the carrier is heavy. If I forget something in our apartment when we go out of the house I have to unstrap the kid and bring her inside and do the whole thing all over again. It's exhausting.

I hate living in this city with a kid in part because I feel like nowhere is safe for her. DH's job has trapped us here for a few more years and I fantasize about living in a small town or a nice safe suburb where this wouldn't be so hard. And now y'all are telling me that you don't think people should be able to leave a 7 yr old in the car for 5 minutes at a pharmacy in a quiet and safe suburb because... reasons. It's ridiculous. I love being a mom but sometimes it feels like society is set up specifically to make it as hard as possible for no reason. I guarantee you that if men were the ones who were more likely to be out running errands with kids the cultural norm would be that of course you can leave a kid in the car and of course a security guard should keep one eye out for that kid. Because we design the world for men's convenience and women's burden.

It was really fun being banned from bringing older sibs to prenatal appointments while pregnant. I kept my high-risk pregnancy with midwives far longer than I should have because they make an attempt to honor appointment times. I have no idea what singe mothers of multiple kids do, what do you do if one of your kids is hospitalized? Zero help for moms, only judgment.

Single mothers build their own village of friends, colleagues and neighbors if they don't have any family in town.

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Anonymous wrote:Parenting standards have changed so much. In the 80s nobody would question a 7 year old left in the car. Now we do. I won't be surprised when there are fewer babies born as the laws and requirements become even stricter for the next generation.

I don't think people are not having childten because children can't be left in the car!

How about women are tired of doing it all abd not getting help!

Np. Sometimes the help we need is to leave the kid in the car for 5 min. It’s hard dragging them in for tiny errands like dropping off a package at ups

Agree. It seems like such a small thing but it adds up. I live in a place where I can never leave my kid alone in a car (due to both the law and the fact that my area really just is not safe) and it creates all these logistical challenges that are a pain to figure out. If I take a sick kid to urgent care and they call in a prescription I have to take the sick kid into the pharmacy to pick it up on the way home or I have to take the kid home and wait for my spouse to get home from the office and then go get it (delaying when the kid can take medication). If we take our cat to the vet I have to finagle the kid and the cat from the car to the door of the vet which sucks because the carrier is heavy. If I forget something in our apartment when we go out of the house I have to unstrap the kid and bring her inside and do the whole thing all over again. It's exhausting.

I hate living in this city with a kid in part because I feel like nowhere is safe for her. DH's job has trapped us here for a few more years and I fantasize about living in a small town or a nice safe suburb where this wouldn't be so hard. And now y'all are telling me that you don't think people should be able to leave a 7 yr old in the car for 5 minutes at a pharmacy in a quiet and safe suburb because... reasons. It's ridiculous. I love being a mom but sometimes it feels like society is set up specifically to make it as hard as possible for no reason. I guarantee you that if men were the ones who were more likely to be out running errands with kids the cultural norm would be that of course you can leave a kid in the car and of course a security guard should keep one eye out for that kid. Because we design the world for men's convenience and women's burden.

It was really fun being banned from bringing older sibs to prenatal appointments while pregnant. I kept my high-risk pregnancy with midwives far longer than I should have because they make an attempt to honor appointment times. I have no idea what singe mothers of multiple kids do, what do you do if one of your kids is hospitalized? Zero help for moms, only judgment.

Single mothers build their own village of friends, colleagues and neighbors if they don't have any family in town.

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Anonymous wrote:People are so self-righteous about certain child safety issues even when they are simply wrong. Often people are just externalizing random anxiety because it makes them feel in control to yell at another person. There is often a serious lack of self-awareness.

I once saw a woman pull over to scream (and I mean scream) at a dad who was walking down the sidewalk with his daughter. They were walking fairly slowly (kid was like 2 or 3) and the dad was maybe a couple steps in front of the kid but was clearly attentive -- I was walking a bit behind and watched him talking to her and making sure she was walking on the inside of the sidewalk away from traffic. He had his phone in his hand but was just glancing at it periodically.

Then this woman stops her SUV and rolls down her window and screams at this guy to "stop looking at his phone and watch your child!" Again the child was on the sidewalk and was totally fine and the dad was watching her. I have no idea what this woman was freaking out about -- I guess she saw the guy looking at his phone and decided to make an example out of him. Then she kept saying "people speed on this road all the time! people hop the curb all the time!" So I guess her argument was that this dad was irresponsible for being on that sidewalk at all. I guess he should have put his kid in the car to go wherever they were going because all the speeders and dangerous drivers mean he's negligent for taking his child for a walk.

And the kicker here is that this woman was stopped *in traffic* when this was happening. Other cars where having to change lanes to get around her while she had her little meltdown and this poor dad is just staring at her like wtf is happening.

This thread is making me think about that woman. Y'all want to take your own anxiety and fears about carjacking and crime out on some stranger whose kid is FINE. And you can't even see that you are just externalizing your fear and scapegoating perfectly good parents as somehow responsible for everything you find scary and unpredictable about the world. You need all the other parents to be as anxious and overzealous as you are to justify your disordered thinking because that's easier for you then actually finding a way to calm the heck down and make practical and grounded decisions about safety.

And yet, if your kid is fat, you're a bad parent for that too. You literally cannot win.

That’s why you need to sign them up for supervised activities! God forbid you’re physically active outside of licensed and supervised environs.

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Anonymous wrote:Parenting standards have changed so much. In the 80s nobody would question a 7 year old left in the car. Now we do. I won't be surprised when there are fewer babies born as the laws and requirements become even stricter for the next generation.

I don't think people are not having childten because children can't be left in the car!

How about women are tired of doing it all abd not getting help!

Np. Sometimes the help we need is to leave the kid in the car for 5 min. It’s hard dragging them in for tiny errands like dropping off a package at ups

Agree. It seems like such a small thing but it adds up. I live in a place where I can never leave my kid alone in a car (due to both the law and the fact that my area really just is not safe) and it creates all these logistical challenges that are a pain to figure out. If I take a sick kid to urgent care and they call in a prescription I have to take the sick kid into the pharmacy to pick it up on the way home or I have to take the kid home and wait for my spouse to get home from the office and then go get it (delaying when the kid can take medication). If we take our cat to the vet I have to finagle the kid and the cat from the car to the door of the vet which sucks because the carrier is heavy. If I forget something in our apartment when we go out of the house I have to unstrap the kid and bring her inside and do the whole thing all over again. It's exhausting.

I hate living in this city with a kid in part because I feel like nowhere is safe for her. DH's job has trapped us here for a few more years and I fantasize about living in a small town or a nice safe suburb where this wouldn't be so hard. And now y'all are telling me that you don't think people should be able to leave a 7 yr old in the car for 5 minutes at a pharmacy in a quiet and safe suburb because... reasons. It's ridiculous. I love being a mom but sometimes it feels like society is set up specifically to make it as hard as possible for no reason. I guarantee you that if men were the ones who were more likely to be out running errands with kids the cultural norm would be that of course you can leave a kid in the car and of course a security guard should keep one eye out for that kid. Because we design the world for men's convenience and women's burden.

It was really fun being banned from bringing older sibs to prenatal appointments while pregnant. I kept my high-risk pregnancy with midwives far longer than I should have because they make an attempt to honor appointment times. I have no idea what singe mothers of multiple kids do, what do you do if one of your kids is hospitalized? Zero help for moms, only judgment.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a 7 year old and I probably would have taken her in only because prescriptions could take a while and lines can be long.

I wrote on another thread that I used to leave my boys in the car when I bought milk at 7-11 or picking up dry cleaning. I could see the car and then through the window.

+1 let's get real, CVS can take forever. It's not just "quickly run in to pick it up" we have all been there thru some super slow long lines.

And OP having a 7yp who "just didn't want to" is pretty unsympathetic, not even a tough call like a napping toddler.

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Anonymous wrote:People are so self-righteous about certain child safety issues even when they are simply wrong. Often people are just externalizing random anxiety because it makes them feel in control to yell at another person. There is often a serious lack of self-awareness.

I once saw a woman pull over to scream (and I mean scream) at a dad who was walking down the sidewalk with his daughter. They were walking fairly slowly (kid was like 2 or 3) and the dad was maybe a couple steps in front of the kid but was clearly attentive -- I was walking a bit behind and watched him talking to her and making sure she was walking on the inside of the sidewalk away from traffic. He had his phone in his hand but was just glancing at it periodically.

Then this woman stops her SUV and rolls down her window and screams at this guy to "stop looking at his phone and watch your child!" Again the child was on the sidewalk and was totally fine and the dad was watching her. I have no idea what this woman was freaking out about -- I guess she saw the guy looking at his phone and decided to make an example out of him. Then she kept saying "people speed on this road all the time! people hop the curb all the time!" So I guess her argument was that this dad was irresponsible for being on that sidewalk at all. I guess he should have put his kid in the car to go wherever they were going because all the speeders and dangerous drivers mean he's negligent for taking his child for a walk.

And the kicker here is that this woman was stopped *in traffic* when this was happening. Other cars where having to change lanes to get around her while she had her little meltdown and this poor dad is just staring at her like wtf is happening.

This thread is making me think about that woman. Y'all want to take your own anxiety and fears about carjacking and crime out on some stranger whose kid is FINE. And you can't even see that you are just externalizing your fear and scapegoating perfectly good parents as somehow responsible for everything you find scary and unpredictable about the world. You need all the other parents to be as anxious and overzealous as you are to justify your disordered thinking because that's easier for you then actually finding a way to calm the heck down and make practical and grounded decisions about safety.

And yet, if your kid is fat, you're a bad parent for that too. You literally cannot win.

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Anonymous wrote:Parenting standards have changed so much. In the 80s nobody would question a 7 year old left in the car. Now we do. I won't be surprised when there are fewer babies born as the laws and requirements become even stricter for the next generation.

I don't think people are not having childten because children can't be left in the car!

How about women are tired of doing it all abd not getting help!

Np. Sometimes the help we need is to leave the kid in the car for 5 min. It’s hard dragging them in for tiny errands like dropping off a package at ups

Agree. It seems like such a small thing but it adds up. I live in a place where I can never leave my kid alone in a car (due to both the law and the fact that my area really just is not safe) and it creates all these logistical challenges that are a pain to figure out. If I take a sick kid to urgent care and they call in a prescription I have to take the sick kid into the pharmacy to pick it up on the way home or I have to take the kid home and wait for my spouse to get home from the office and then go get it (delaying when the kid can take medication). If we take our cat to the vet I have to finagle the kid and the cat from the car to the door of the vet which sucks because the carrier is heavy. If I forget something in our apartment when we go out of the house I have to unstrap the kid and bring her inside and do the whole thing all over again. It's exhausting.

I hate living in this city with a kid in part because I feel like nowhere is safe for her. DH's job has trapped us here for a few more years and I fantasize about living in a small town or a nice safe suburb where this wouldn't be so hard. And now y'all are telling me that you don't think people should be able to leave a 7 yr old in the car for 5 minutes at a pharmacy in a quiet and safe suburb because... reasons. It's ridiculous. I love being a mom but sometimes it feels like society is set up specifically to make it as hard as possible for no reason. I guarantee you that if men were the ones who were more likely to be out running errands with kids the cultural norm would be that of course you can leave a kid in the car and of course a security guard should keep one eye out for that kid. Because we design the world for men's convenience and women's burden.

Anonymous wrote:I have a 7 year old and I probably would have taken her in only because prescriptions could take a while and lines can be long.

I wrote on another thread that I used to leave my boys in the car when I bought milk at 7-11 or picking up dry cleaning. I could see the car and then through the window.

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Anonymous wrote:So you think what OP did was stupid?

Yes her fat selfish ass was picking up a prescription of Wegovy and left her poor child in the car with the engine running inviting carjackers to steal her kid

Anonymous wrote:People are so self-righteous about certain child safety issues even when they are simply wrong. Often people are just externalizing random anxiety because it makes them feel in control to yell at another person. There is often a serious lack of self-awareness.

I once saw a woman pull over to scream (and I mean scream) at a dad who was walking down the sidewalk with his daughter. They were walking fairly slowly (kid was like 2 or 3) and the dad was maybe a couple steps in front of the kid but was clearly attentive -- I was walking a bit behind and watched him talking to her and making sure she was walking on the inside of the sidewalk away from traffic. He had his phone in his hand but was just glancing at it periodically.

Then this woman stops her SUV and rolls down her window and screams at this guy to "stop looking at his phone and watch your child!" Again the child was on the sidewalk and was totally fine and the dad was watching her. I have no idea what this woman was freaking out about -- I guess she saw the guy looking at his phone and decided to make an example out of him. Then she kept saying "people speed on this road all the time! people hop the curb all the time!" So I guess her argument was that this dad was irresponsible for being on that sidewalk at all. I guess he should have put his kid in the car to go wherever they were going because all the speeders and dangerous drivers mean he's negligent for taking his child for a walk.

And the kicker here is that this woman was stopped *in traffic* when this was happening. Other cars where having to change lanes to get around her while she had her little meltdown and this poor dad is just staring at her like wtf is happening.

This thread is making me think about that woman. Y'all want to take your own anxiety and fears about carjacking and crime out on some stranger whose kid is FINE. And you can't even see that you are just externalizing your fear and scapegoating perfectly good parents as somehow responsible for everything you find scary and unpredictable about the world. You need all the other parents to be as anxious and overzealous as you are to justify your disordered thinking because that's easier for you then actually finding a way to calm the heck down and make practical and grounded decisions about safety.

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Anonymous wrote:Parenting standards have changed so much. In the 80s nobody would question a 7 year old left in the car. Now we do. I won't be surprised when there are fewer babies born as the laws and requirements become even stricter for the next generation.

I don't think people are not having childten because children can't be left in the car!

How about women are tired of doing it all abd not getting help!

Anonymous wrote:So you think what OP did was stupid?

Anonymous wrote:So you think what OP did was stupid?