I just watched the meeting too. It's so weird how mean everyone is to Mary. I remember Barbara castigating her when she first joined the board. And now CDT and DP.

I'm did not see the bitterness from BZS and Duran, but if you say it was there, I believe you.

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Anonymous wrote:Bethany is fine. Everybody is just upset that she did not support Mary as vigorously as you would have expected. Again, I believe there’s more going on behind the scenes. They need to learn how to keep their drama behind closed doors like every other Board of Anything.

Bethany is "fine" but still disappointing. Expected more from her.
I don't know why people think it's more complicated and that there must be a lot of behind-the-scenes dirt. All it takes in Arlington is to question or not vote in block to put you out of step and out of favor.

Every Board has behind the scenes drama. Every 👏 single 👏 one. This one decided to air their dirty laundry in public. It’s not a great look.

There have been renegades on the sb before. Reid Goldstein voted against many Syphax-backed proposals. But nothing like putting a woman in her place.

It was gross. But I do think there’s more there. There has to be. Both CDT and DP wouldn’t have outted themselves to the community otherwise. They’re smarter than that. Even Bethany and Francisco childed her, but their words were more temperate.

ha ha ha!
"Francisco" should keep his mouth shut. He works for HER. SHE is part of the team that hires him/renews his contract. If the superintendent is chiding a school board member, that only reinforces the problem is the unwritten rule that all board members must align with what the superintendent says and Mary's "fault" is that she asks questions and doesn't follow lock-step. Quite bold for Duran to make negative comments about or insinuations targeting any board member. He needs to go.

Ah, now I see the problem. Mary thinks she’s the boss. But Dr Duran works for the board, not her personally.

Of course he works for the board, not just her. But the rest of the board believes they are there to support whatever he does and decides. Mary is the only one acting like Duran works for them and not vice versa.

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Anonymous wrote:Bethany is fine. Everybody is just upset that she did not support Mary as vigorously as you would have expected. Again, I believe there’s more going on behind the scenes. They need to learn how to keep their drama behind closed doors like every other Board of Anything.

Bethany is "fine" but still disappointing. Expected more from her.
I don't know why people think it's more complicated and that there must be a lot of behind-the-scenes dirt. All it takes in Arlington is to question or not vote in block to put you out of step and out of favor.

Every Board has behind the scenes drama. Every 👏 single 👏 one. This one decided to air their dirty laundry in public. It’s not a great look.

There have been renegades on the sb before. Reid Goldstein voted against many Syphax-backed proposals. But nothing like putting a woman in her place.

It was gross. But I do think there’s more there. There has to be. Both CDT and DP wouldn’t have outted themselves to the community otherwise. They’re smarter than that. Even Bethany and Francisco childed her, but their words were more temperate.

I agree with this.

I disagree. CDT and Priddy are not smart people.

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CDT is just awful all around. I can't stand to hear her blabber and am so glad she's leaving. DP is just such a little puppy dog. Thanking her for having everything in order so he didn't miss a beat while she was on maternity leave? Ugh...of course she did. He wouldn't have had a clue what to do without her. Why do you think he's not running for re-election? Because she isn't and won't be there to tell him what to do and say.

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Anonymous wrote:Bethany is fine. Everybody is just upset that she did not support Mary as vigorously as you would have expected. Again, I believe there’s more going on behind the scenes. They need to learn how to keep their drama behind closed doors like every other Board of Anything.

Bethany is "fine" but still disappointing. Expected more from her.
I don't know why people think it's more complicated and that there must be a lot of behind-the-scenes dirt. All it takes in Arlington is to question or not vote in block to put you out of step and out of favor.

Every Board has behind the scenes drama. Every 👏 single 👏 one. This one decided to air their dirty laundry in public. It’s not a great look.

There have been renegades on the sb before. Reid Goldstein voted against many Syphax-backed proposals. But nothing like putting a woman in her place.

It was gross. But I do think there’s more there. There has to be. Both CDT and DP wouldn’t have outted themselves to the community otherwise. They’re smarter than that. Even Bethany and Francisco childed her, but their words were more temperate.

ha ha ha!
"Francisco" should keep his mouth shut. He works for HER. SHE is part of the team that hires him/renews his contract. If the superintendent is chiding a school board member, that only reinforces the problem is the unwritten rule that all board members must align with what the superintendent says and Mary's "fault" is that she asks questions and doesn't follow lock-step. Quite bold for Duran to make negative comments about or insinuations targeting any board member. He needs to go.

You don't have to put his name in quotes. It's his name. Although I dare you to be so informal to his face.

I listened to the SB meeting online too. Bethany's and Dr Duran's speeches were more about "staying the course" and not calling out Mary personally. But the implication was there.

Dr Duran and the end of his speech did say something about "staying the course". I think he repeated himself twice. I didn't think twice about it at the time, but now I can see how people can interpret it to target Mary, asking her not to rock the boat. Particularly around the CIP decision.

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Anonymous wrote:Bethany is fine. Everybody is just upset that she did not support Mary as vigorously as you would have expected. Again, I believe there’s more going on behind the scenes. They need to learn how to keep their drama behind closed doors like every other Board of Anything.

Bethany is "fine" but still disappointing. Expected more from her.
I don't know why people think it's more complicated and that there must be a lot of behind-the-scenes dirt. All it takes in Arlington is to question or not vote in block to put you out of step and out of favor.

Every Board has behind the scenes drama. Every 👏 single 👏 one. This one decided to air their dirty laundry in public. It’s not a great look.

There have been renegades on the sb before. Reid Goldstein voted against many Syphax-backed proposals. But nothing like putting a woman in her place.

It was gross. But I do think there’s more there. There has to be. Both CDT and DP wouldn’t have outted themselves to the community otherwise. They’re smarter than that. Even Bethany and Francisco childed her, but their words were more temperate.

ha ha ha!
"Francisco" should keep his mouth shut. He works for HER. SHE is part of the team that hires him/renews his contract. If the superintendent is chiding a school board member, that only reinforces the problem is the unwritten rule that all board members must align with what the superintendent says and Mary's "fault" is that she asks questions and doesn't follow lock-step. Quite bold for Duran to make negative comments about or insinuations targeting any board member. He needs to go.

You don't have to put his name in quotes. It's his name. Although I dare you to be so informal to his face.

I listened to the SB meeting online too. Bethany's and Dr Duran's speeches were more about "staying the course" and not calling out Mary personally. But the implication was there.

I used quotes because the previous poster atypically referred to him as such.
I just watched it. Bethany had an undertone to her opening remarks; but I didn't hear any insinuations from Duran.
People are making way more out of this than there is. CDT and DP just don't like how Mary has performed her role. They should read their own comments and consider applying them to themselves. It was really distasteful, to say the least.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn’t hear anything critical of Kadera in Bethany or Dr. Duran’s statements. What was I missing?

I agree. These accusations are out of control. He focused on the APS accomplishments and said there’s more to do until we get to 100%.

Also agree. The negativity from Bethany was limited to stating that it was a difficult decision. That really was unnecessary. Just throwing a bone to her two dissenting colleagues. I guess they'll forgive her for not voting in lock-step.

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Anonymous wrote:Bethany is fine. Everybody is just upset that she did not support Mary as vigorously as you would have expected. Again, I believe there’s more going on behind the scenes. They need to learn how to keep their drama behind closed doors like every other Board of Anything.

Bethany is "fine" but still disappointing. Expected more from her.
I don't know why people think it's more complicated and that there must be a lot of behind-the-scenes dirt. All it takes in Arlington is to question or not vote in block to put you out of step and out of favor.

Every Board has behind the scenes drama. Every 👏 single 👏 one. This one decided to air their dirty laundry in public. It’s not a great look.

There have been renegades on the sb before. Reid Goldstein voted against many Syphax-backed proposals. But nothing like putting a woman in her place.

It was gross. But I do think there’s more there. There has to be. Both CDT and DP wouldn’t have outted themselves to the community otherwise. They’re smarter than that. Even Bethany and Francisco childed her, but their words were more temperate.

ha ha ha!
"Francisco" should keep his mouth shut. He works for HER. SHE is part of the team that hires him/renews his contract. If the superintendent is chiding a school board member, that only reinforces the problem is the unwritten rule that all board members must align with what the superintendent says and Mary's "fault" is that she asks questions and doesn't follow lock-step. Quite bold for Duran to make negative comments about or insinuations targeting any board member. He needs to go.

Ah, now I see the problem. Mary thinks she’s the boss. But Dr Duran works for the board, not her personally.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bethany is fine. Everybody is just upset that she did not support Mary as vigorously as you would have expected. Again, I believe there’s more going on behind the scenes. They need to learn how to keep their drama behind closed doors like every other Board of Anything.

Bethany is "fine" but still disappointing. Expected more from her.
I don't know why people think it's more complicated and that there must be a lot of behind-the-scenes dirt. All it takes in Arlington is to question or not vote in block to put you out of step and out of favor.

Every Board has behind the scenes drama. Every 👏 single 👏 one. This one decided to air their dirty laundry in public. It’s not a great look.

There have been renegades on the sb before. Reid Goldstein voted against many Syphax-backed proposals. But nothing like putting a woman in her place.

It was gross. But I do think there’s more there. There has to be. Both CDT and DP wouldn’t have outted themselves to the community otherwise. They’re smarter than that. Even Bethany and Francisco childed her, but their words were more temperate.

I agree with this.

I disagree. CDT and Priddy are not smart people.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bethany is fine. Everybody is just upset that she did not support Mary as vigorously as you would have expected. Again, I believe there’s more going on behind the scenes. They need to learn how to keep their drama behind closed doors like every other Board of Anything.

Bethany is "fine" but still disappointing. Expected more from her.
I don't know why people think it's more complicated and that there must be a lot of behind-the-scenes dirt. All it takes in Arlington is to question or not vote in block to put you out of step and out of favor.

Every Board has behind the scenes drama. Every 👏 single 👏 one. This one decided to air their dirty laundry in public. It’s not a great look.

There have been renegades on the sb before. Reid Goldstein voted against many Syphax-backed proposals. But nothing like putting a woman in her place.

It was gross. But I do think there’s more there. There has to be. Both CDT and DP wouldn’t have outted themselves to the community otherwise. They’re smarter than that. Even Bethany and Francisco childed her, but their words were more temperate.

ha ha ha!
"Francisco" should keep his mouth shut. He works for HER. SHE is part of the team that hires him/renews his contract. If the superintendent is chiding a school board member, that only reinforces the problem is the unwritten rule that all board members must align with what the superintendent says and Mary's "fault" is that she asks questions and doesn't follow lock-step. Quite bold for Duran to make negative comments about or insinuations targeting any board member. He needs to go.

You don't have to put his name in quotes. It's his name. Although I dare you to be so informal to his face.

I listened to the SB meeting online too. Bethany's and Dr Duran's speeches were more about "staying the course" and not calling out Mary personally. But the implication was there.

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t hear anything critical of Kadera in Bethany or Dr. Duran’s statements. What was I missing?

I agree. These accusations are out of control. He focused on the APS accomplishments and said there’s more to do until we get to 100%.

I didn’t hear anything critical of Kadera in Bethany or Dr. Duran’s statements. What was I missing?

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Anonymous wrote:I went and listened to the remarks after reading this. I thought Priddy and Diaz Toro sounded awful. They were super scathing towards Mary but actually didn't give any specifics. They also have a pretty specific interpretation of school board policy that appears to be don't criticize anything at APS publicly and don't listen to individuals or advocate for them. I don't necessarily think there is anything more to it- Mary is not one of them, she is not a ACDC insider, and she passionately cares about the school system.
I agree Bethany has been a disappointment. I had high hopes for her after working with her a little bit on ACI- but she largely seems like a non-entity.

They sounded fed up. There were reasons. I just don't think it's because of pettiness, or because Mary showed them up. Also, I think they would have let us know those reasons but they were bound by some policy that they were upholding.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not their fans. Like at all. They can go eff of in December and I'll never vote for them again. I didn't even vote for them the first time. However, I agree with the poster above that they are both too smart to just drop bombs without cause.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Bethany is fine. Everybody is just upset that she did not support Mary as vigorously as you would have expected. Again, I believe there’s more going on behind the scenes. They need to learn how to keep their drama behind closed doors like every other Board of Anything.

Bethany is "fine" but still disappointing. Expected more from her.
I don't know why people think it's more complicated and that there must be a lot of behind-the-scenes dirt. All it takes in Arlington is to question or not vote in block to put you out of step and out of favor.

Every Board has behind the scenes drama. Every 👏 single 👏 one. This one decided to air their dirty laundry in public. It’s not a great look.

There have been renegades on the sb before. Reid Goldstein voted against many Syphax-backed proposals. But nothing like putting a woman in her place.

It was gross. But I do think there’s more there. There has to be. Both CDT and DP wouldn’t have outted themselves to the community otherwise. They’re smarter than that. Even Bethany and Francisco childed her, but their words were more temperate.

ha ha ha!
"Francisco" should keep his mouth shut. He works for HER. SHE is part of the team that hires him/renews his contract. If the superintendent is chiding a school board member, that only reinforces the problem is the unwritten rule that all board members must align with what the superintendent says and Mary's "fault" is that she asks questions and doesn't follow lock-step. Quite bold for Duran to make negative comments about or insinuations targeting any board member. He needs to go.

Anonymous wrote:I went and listened to the remarks after reading this. I thought Priddy and Diaz Toro sounded awful. They were super scathing towards Mary but actually didn't give any specifics. They also have a pretty specific interpretation of school board policy that appears to be don't criticize anything at APS publicly and don't listen to individuals or advocate for them. I don't necessarily think there is anything more to it- Mary is not one of them, she is not a ACDC insider, and she passionately cares about the school system.
I agree Bethany has been a disappointment. I had high hopes for her after working with her a little bit on ACI- but she largely seems like a non-entity.

All of you talk about you know how a School Board is run. From our sofas, it must be nice to give all of this judgement. I imagine that being a school board member must be the worst job ever. You have to be the expert at the system and all of its roles, engage with the community and attend required meetings weekly, sometimes several back to back. Not to mention being paid pennies while trying to hold down a day job. I don't think any of them at the moment are retired.

I don't think David or Cristina were great representatives to the public, but I'm not going to judge them on what they did for APS. Bethany either. Any time I engaged with her, she seemed very forthcoming and honest about what she could and could not do.

Monday wasn't their finest hour. I just hope that Mary and the rest can move on from it. We should too.

Anonymous wrote:I went and listened to the remarks after reading this. I thought Priddy and Diaz Toro sounded awful. They were super scathing towards Mary but actually didn't give any specifics. They also have a pretty specific interpretation of school board policy that appears to be don't criticize anything at APS publicly and don't listen to individuals or advocate for them. I don't necessarily think there is anything more to it- Mary is not one of them, she is not a ACDC insider, and she passionately cares about the school system.
I agree Bethany has been a disappointment. I had high hopes for her after working with her a little bit on ACI- but she largely seems like a non-entity.

They sounded fed up. There were reasons. I just don't think it's because of pettiness, or because Mary showed them up. Also, I think they would have let us know those reasons but they were bound by some policy that they were upholding.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not their fans. Like at all. They can go eff of in December and I'll never vote for them again. I didn't even vote for them the first time. However, I agree with the poster above that they are both too smart to just drop bombs without cause.