Anonymous
05/08/2024 14:12
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A vote for Hogan means
NATIONAL ABORTION BAN
NATIONAL CONTRACEPTIVE BAN
NATIONAL WOMEN'S INTERSTATE TRAVEL BAN
NATIONAL RELIGION IN SCHOOLS
AND MOST OF ALL NATIONAL INSTALLMENT OF PROJECT 2025.
Why did I do all caps, because clearly people are still idiots and can not understand how bad voting for Hogan will be for the state of MD and the country.
If you are an American you will never vote for one Republican again.
Between Project 2025, and the fact they don't want Americans voting which is the core reason we are the United States of America no American would vote for a Republican ever again.
There are no two sides here either you love America ie vote Democrat or you love Russia vote Republican. Full stop no discussion, why because the god dammed treasonous snakes wrote it all down.
Who is proposing banning contraception?
Read this thread and the links in it. https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1178761.page
Voting against a strawman bill to nationalize contraception laws is the same as a nationwide ban now?
You're using the word "strawman" wrong. It was an actual bill to codify an existing federal right to contraception. The Republicans voted against it.
No, you’re just dumb. The bill was a strawman. It’s trying to suggest there’s a problem (“right wingers” proposing to ban birth control) that doesn’t exist.
Thomas explicitly listed Griswold as one of the cases he'd like to overturn next in his Dobbs concurrence. When someone tells you what they're planning, listen.
Moderate republicans don't do that. They just express shock when conservatives do the thing they promised to do
Anonymous
05/08/2024 14:10
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A vote for Hogan means
NATIONAL ABORTION BAN
NATIONAL CONTRACEPTIVE BAN
NATIONAL WOMEN'S INTERSTATE TRAVEL BAN
NATIONAL RELIGION IN SCHOOLS
AND MOST OF ALL NATIONAL INSTALLMENT OF PROJECT 2025.
Why did I do all caps, because clearly people are still idiots and can not understand how bad voting for Hogan will be for the state of MD and the country.
If you are an American you will never vote for one Republican again.
Between Project 2025, and the fact they don't want Americans voting which is the core reason we are the United States of America no American would vote for a Republican ever again.
There are no two sides here either you love America ie vote Democrat or you love Russia vote Republican. Full stop no discussion, why because the god dammed treasonous snakes wrote it all down.
Who is proposing banning contraception?
Read this thread and the links in it. https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1178761.page
Voting against a strawman bill to nationalize contraception laws is the same as a nationwide ban now?
You're using the word "strawman" wrong. It was an actual bill to codify an existing federal right to contraception. The Republicans voted against it.
No, you’re just dumb. The bill was a strawman. It’s trying to suggest there’s a problem (“right wingers” proposing to ban birth control) that doesn’t exist.
Thomas explicitly listed Griswold as one of the cases he'd like to overturn next in his Dobbs concurrence. When someone tells you what they're planning, listen.
Anonymous
05/08/2024 14:09
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His own ads are all.about the border and other right wing dogwhistles. He's clearly saying who he is and the whole "but so moderate" is a lie. He was leashed by the dem legislature, he won't be as a senator.
To be clear the border is a mess and needs to be addressed. The Dems have abjectly failed in that regard.
You know it was the Republicans who killed the border bill, right? On Trump's explicit instructions.
No doubt the border bill was killed by Republicans playing politics, but the whole reason the bill was drafted was to try and rectify the already existing disaster at the border.
So there's a problem, Democrats tried to fix it, Republicans killed it and that's somehow the fault of Democrats?
Logic doesn't seem to be your strong point.
Anonymous
05/08/2024 14:08
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The histrionics about a possible Hogan win are hilarious. He did a good job for MD as governor and will do a good job as senator.
Governors can be non-partisan. Senators have to decide which party to caucus with. That decision alone disqualifies him for me
+1
The Hogan supporters on this thread are trying to bamboozle us with vague assurances of Hogan’s alleged “moderation”. But I notice that they carefully avoid acknowledging that senators make binary, up-or-down votes and so far none of them have promised that Hogan would provide Democrats with a crucial vote to block a Trump Supreme Court nominee or a piece of legislation important to MAGA.
How could they? He won't.
I don’t know how many times we have to explain this, but we know he’s a Republican, so we aren’t voting for him with the expectation that he’s caucusing with Democrats. I don’t however expect him to toe the MAGA line with crazy legislation. There is room for that in the Senate, not so much in the House. Hogan is not dumb, unless he really is aiming to be a 1 term Senator he cannot go full MAGA because his core constituency is non-MAGA moderates on both sides.
What about the Supreme Court? Bad legislation can be fixed in a year or two. Supreme Court justices serve for many decades.
Anonymous
05/08/2024 14:05
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A vote for Hogan means
NATIONAL ABORTION BAN
NATIONAL CONTRACEPTIVE BAN
NATIONAL WOMEN'S INTERSTATE TRAVEL BAN
NATIONAL RELIGION IN SCHOOLS
AND MOST OF ALL NATIONAL INSTALLMENT OF PROJECT 2025.
Why did I do all caps, because clearly people are still idiots and can not understand how bad voting for Hogan will be for the state of MD and the country.
If you are an American you will never vote for one Republican again.
Between Project 2025, and the fact they don't want Americans voting which is the core reason we are the United States of America no American would vote for a Republican ever again.
There are no two sides here either you love America ie vote Democrat or you love Russia vote Republican. Full stop no discussion, why because the god dammed treasonous snakes wrote it all down.
Who is proposing banning contraception?
Read this thread and the links in it. https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1178761.page
Voting against a strawman bill to nationalize contraception laws is the same as a nationwide ban now?
You're using the word "strawman" wrong. It was an actual bill to codify an existing federal right to contraception. The Republicans voted against it.
No, you’re just dumb. The bill was a strawman. It’s trying to suggest there’s a problem (“right wingers” proposing to ban birth control) that doesn’t exist.
Anonymous
05/08/2024 13:52
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The histrionics about a possible Hogan win are hilarious. He did a good job for MD as governor and will do a good job as senator.
Governors can be non-partisan. Senators have to decide which party to caucus with. That decision alone disqualifies him for me
+1
The Hogan supporters on this thread are trying to bamboozle us with vague assurances of Hogan’s alleged “moderation”. But I notice that they carefully avoid acknowledging that senators make binary, up-or-down votes and so far none of them have promised that Hogan would provide Democrats with a crucial vote to block a Trump Supreme Court nominee or a piece of legislation important to MAGA.
How could they? He won't.
I don’t know how many times we have to explain this, but we know he’s a Republican, so we aren’t voting for him with the expectation that he’s caucusing with Democrats. I don’t however expect him to toe the MAGA line with crazy legislation. There is room for that in the Senate, not so much in the House. Hogan is not dumb, unless he really is aiming to be a 1 term Senator he cannot go full MAGA because his core constituency is non-MAGA moderates on both sides.
He'd be another Susan Collins. He'd call himself a moderate, but when his vote matters, he'll toe the conservative line
Anonymous
05/08/2024 13:48
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The histrionics about a possible Hogan win are hilarious. He did a good job for MD as governor and will do a good job as senator.
Governors can be non-partisan. Senators have to decide which party to caucus with. That decision alone disqualifies him for me
+1
The Hogan supporters on this thread are trying to bamboozle us with vague assurances of Hogan’s alleged “moderation”. But I notice that they carefully avoid acknowledging that senators make binary, up-or-down votes and so far none of them have promised that Hogan would provide Democrats with a crucial vote to block a Trump Supreme Court nominee or a piece of legislation important to MAGA.
How could they? He won't.
I don’t know how many times we have to explain this, but we know he’s a Republican, so we aren’t voting for him with the expectation that he’s caucusing with Democrats. I don’t however expect him to toe the MAGA line with crazy legislation. There is room for that in the Senate, not so much in the House. Hogan is not dumb, unless he really is aiming to be a 1 term Senator he cannot go full MAGA because his core constituency is non-MAGA moderates on both sides.
With Project 2025, he doesn't care. 6 years is enough time to do massive amounts of damage.
+1
Being able to vote Hogan out 6 years from now is small consolation when Trump’s next SC nominee could be on the Court for the next 45 years.
Anonymous
05/08/2024 13:45
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His own ads are all.about the border and other right wing dogwhistles. He's clearly saying who he is and the whole "but so moderate" is a lie. He was leashed by the dem legislature, he won't be as a senator.
To be clear the border is a mess and needs to be addressed. The Dems have abjectly failed in that regard.
You know it was the Republicans who killed the border bill, right? On Trump's explicit instructions.
No doubt the border bill was killed by Republicans playing politics, but the whole reason the bill was drafted was to try and rectify the already existing disaster at the border.
So why do we need Hogan in the Senate?
Anonymous
05/08/2024 13:33
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His own ads are all.about the border and other right wing dogwhistles. He's clearly saying who he is and the whole "but so moderate" is a lie. He was leashed by the dem legislature, he won't be as a senator.
To be clear the border is a mess and needs to be addressed. The Dems have abjectly failed in that regard.
You know it was the Republicans who killed the border bill, right? On Trump's explicit instructions.
No doubt the border bill was killed by Republicans playing politics, but the whole reason the bill was drafted was to try and rectify the already existing disaster at the border.
Anonymous
05/08/2024 13:29
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The histrionics about a possible Hogan win are hilarious. He did a good job for MD as governor and will do a good job as senator.
Governors can be non-partisan. Senators have to decide which party to caucus with. That decision alone disqualifies him for me
+1
The Hogan supporters on this thread are trying to bamboozle us with vague assurances of Hogan’s alleged “moderation”. But I notice that they carefully avoid acknowledging that senators make binary, up-or-down votes and so far none of them have promised that Hogan would provide Democrats with a crucial vote to block a Trump Supreme Court nominee or a piece of legislation important to MAGA.
How could they? He won't.
I don’t know how many times we have to explain this, but we know he’s a Republican, so we aren’t voting for him with the expectation that he’s caucusing with Democrats. I don’t however expect him to toe the MAGA line with crazy legislation. There is room for that in the Senate, not so much in the House. Hogan is not dumb, unless he really is aiming to be a 1 term Senator he cannot go full MAGA because his core constituency is non-MAGA moderates on both sides.
With Project 2025, he doesn't care. 6 years is enough time to do massive amounts of damage.
I’m sorry but nothing I have seen of Larry Hogan tells me he is cobbling together a coalition of moderates only to abandon that and go full MAGA once in the Senate, thus ensuring his fate as a 1 term wonder. I’m just not seeing it.
Anonymous
05/08/2024 13:10
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The histrionics about a possible Hogan win are hilarious. He did a good job for MD as governor and will do a good job as senator.
Governors can be non-partisan. Senators have to decide which party to caucus with. That decision alone disqualifies him for me
+1
The Hogan supporters on this thread are trying to bamboozle us with vague assurances of Hogan’s alleged “moderation”. But I notice that they carefully avoid acknowledging that senators make binary, up-or-down votes and so far none of them have promised that Hogan would provide Democrats with a crucial vote to block a Trump Supreme Court nominee or a piece of legislation important to MAGA.
How could they? He won't.
I don’t know how many times we have to explain this, but we know he’s a Republican, so we aren’t voting for him with the expectation that he’s caucusing with Democrats. I don’t however expect him to toe the MAGA line with crazy legislation. There is room for that in the Senate, not so much in the House. Hogan is not dumb, unless he really is aiming to be a 1 term Senator he cannot go full MAGA because his core constituency is non-MAGA moderates on both sides.
With Project 2025, he doesn't care. 6 years is enough time to do massive amounts of damage.
Anonymous
05/08/2024 13:08
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The histrionics about a possible Hogan win are hilarious. He did a good job for MD as governor and will do a good job as senator.
Governors can be non-partisan. Senators have to decide which party to caucus with. That decision alone disqualifies him for me
+1
The Hogan supporters on this thread are trying to bamboozle us with vague assurances of Hogan’s alleged “moderation”. But I notice that they carefully avoid acknowledging that senators make binary, up-or-down votes and so far none of them have promised that Hogan would provide Democrats with a crucial vote to block a Trump Supreme Court nominee or a piece of legislation important to MAGA.
How could they? He won't.
I don’t know how many times we have to explain this, but we know he’s a Republican, so we aren’t voting for him with the expectation that he’s caucusing with Democrats. I don’t however expect him to toe the MAGA line with crazy legislation. There is room for that in the Senate, not so much in the House. Hogan is not dumb, unless he really is aiming to be a 1 term Senator he cannot go full MAGA because his core constituency is non-MAGA moderates on both sides.
Anonymous
05/08/2024 13:07
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A vote for Hogan means
NATIONAL ABORTION BAN
NATIONAL CONTRACEPTIVE BAN
NATIONAL WOMEN'S INTERSTATE TRAVEL BAN
NATIONAL RELIGION IN SCHOOLS
AND MOST OF ALL NATIONAL INSTALLMENT OF PROJECT 2025.
Why did I do all caps, because clearly people are still idiots and can not understand how bad voting for Hogan will be for the state of MD and the country.
If you are an American you will never vote for one Republican again.
Between Project 2025, and the fact they don't want Americans voting which is the core reason we are the United States of America no American would vote for a Republican ever again.
There are no two sides here either you love America ie vote Democrat or you love Russia vote Republican. Full stop no discussion, why because the god dammed treasonous snakes wrote it all down.
Who is proposing banning contraception?
Read this thread and the links in it. https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1178761.page
Voting against a strawman bill to nationalize contraception laws is the same as a nationwide ban now?
You're using the word "strawman" wrong. It was an actual bill to codify an existing federal right to contraception. The Republicans voted against it.
Anonymous
05/08/2024 13:07
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:His own ads are all.about the border and other right wing dogwhistles. He's clearly saying who he is and the whole "but so moderate" is a lie. He was leashed by the dem legislature, he won't be as a senator.
To be clear the border is a mess and needs to be addressed. The Dems have abjectly failed in that regard.
You know it was the Republicans who killed the border bill, right? On Trump's explicit instructions.
Anonymous
05/08/2024 13:04
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:His own ads are all.about the border and other right wing dogwhistles. He's clearly saying who he is and the whole "but so moderate" is a lie. He was leashed by the dem legislature, he won't be as a senator.
To be clear the border is a mess and needs to be addressed. The Dems have abjectly failed in that regard.