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Anonymous wrote:I feel really sad when I see the tributes to him. They are mostly of long ago anecdotes and acknowledgment that they had lost touch over the years. I guess he introduced Jonathan Silverman and his wife. They used to text him on their anniversary to thank him. He would write back, best thing I ever did, or something like that. Gag, what self centered people. I know it’s hard to love an addict and no one deserves to be treated poorly by him. But knowing how lonely he was, it just feels really obnoxious to text him about their happiness when he was probably dealing with a lot some of those years. It’s like everyone else grew up, I’m sure some of these people did drugs with him. But he just continued on and ended up so lonely. Really sad.

hmm, I see it differently. I'd be delighted to be remembered for such an important part in another person's life, and grateful they thought of me that way.

He hid his addiction for years so pretty sure no one knew how lonely he was but it part it was his own fault. He brought his loneliness on himself. No one wants to be around an addict and someone drifting in and out of consciousness because they are so high on their drugs.

It may have been hidden from the public, but not from those who knew him. Hank Azaria's video touches on this: "I really loved him. A lot of us who were close to him felt like we lost him to drugs and alcohol . . . a long time ago." Matthew brought Hank to AA and went to meetings with him the whole first year. Hank has been sober for 17 years. It's such a shame Matthew couldn't stick with it. Hank's video is here, if you haven't seen it. He says how painful it was to read the memoir of his friend that details all the suffering
https://www.tmz.com/2023/10/30/hank-azaria-remembers-matthew-perry-friends-costar-aa-sober/

Anonymous wrote:I just this morning finished listening to the audiobook version of his memoir. He ends with such hope of what he would get to experience and do, for the rest of his life. Whatever else he went through, I'm glad that the last major thing he produced is this book - it's very raw, well written, and also feels like a true reckoning. I'm sure plenty is left out - that's memory and memoir - but it really does feel like in this writing, he got to make sense of things and try to move forward.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the toxicology report will come back that he relapsed. So sad. So many people struggle with addiction.

Yeah, he attended rehab 15 times and it never stuck. In his final Insta posts, he seemed happy. Happy and high. He had plenty of prescription drugs in the house.

You suck, pp

PP was just stating facts.

+1 some posters clearly have never known addicts. It is a brutal, brutal disease. My addict brother’s heart stopped in his sleep after he accidentally took too many prescription pills. His autopsy report was the same: deferred pending toxicology report. We were not surprised by the final results. The medical examiner could have finalized the report with cardiac damage/event if that’s what it was.

I agree. I have 3 family members with decades old substance issues (drinking and drugs). It’s incredible how people are romanticizing MP, probably based on his likable characters he portrayed on the screen. But none of the posters know him, and if he had been in rehab 15 times, he wasn’t immune to the character traits that are common to addicts: lying, manipulation, sneaking around, etc. His most recent fiancé even said she had to go to Al-Anon in order to deal with him, she finally broke it off with him after catching him communicating with a 19 year old on a dating app and that their break up was not amicable. He wasn’t Chandler Bing. He was a very sick person.

I really feel sorry for his parents.

MAYBE I can see a 19 year old with David, he still looks in shape and big MAYBE on LeBlanc, he’s gained some weight. BUT Perry? I just don’t see why a 19 year old would be attracted to him. I’m talking on-line hook ups.

The story was that they matched one another on Raya and started FaceTiming, which apparently the 19 year old recorded and then went public with. He was engaged at the time, so he was busted by his fiancé and it is why she broke up with him. The story has resurfaced now that he died.

Not particularly kind of the ex-fiancée to make a big deal of this immediately after his death, but I guess she wanted to make a quick buck.

Question - are they legally required to do a toxicology screen in deaths like these? Otherwise, I can’t imagine why the family would want to do this. I mean it’s not like they suspect murder right? Whether he was high or not, how does it affect anyone?

The ex-finance isn’t the one that broke the story. The 19 yr old posted the video to Tik Tok or something like that when it happened a few years ago and it went viral and was news then. When MP died news outlets (like NYP) just republished it. Also excerpts from his memoir re how he didn’t remember even proposing to his ex-finance, how he didn’t want to marry her, how he didn’t want to live with her, etc also were republished.

Not sure why you place blame on ex-finance when it sounds like she went through he!! with him. Smh.

Their engagement broke off three years ago, and he said he was high when he proposed and didn't even remember doing so. Agree with the first PP that she didn't need to put out a public message. Also, she says how they rewatched Friends together before the reunion but he told Diane Sawyer he can't rewatch Friends episodes because he just sees his weight/addiction/struggles.

Everyone else is “releasing a statement”, including people who only worked with him in the 90s. So what’s the issue with his recent ex-fiancee releasing one? I don’t get it.

Most of the others are famous celebrities whereas she is mostly famous for being his ex-fiance. They didn't end on good terms, and her statement wasn't very complimentary toward him. Obviously she is free to release whatever statement she wants, but it seemed in poor taste.

She said nothing negatively in her condolence statement. The other stuff in the article is from previous statements. That’s not her fault the press chose to reprint.

She was not complimentary, implied he was a narcissist who loved watching his own work and who hurt her brutally. He was very cold about their relationship in his book, and he's the one who blew it up, so I don't blame her for having hard feelings. But I don't think she should have released a statement.

Np. You know what? Your opinion does not matter. I support the ex fiance to speak. Who are you to judge?

Np, she lacks class in putting out a mostly negative statement amidst all the lovely tributes. Definitely not someone I’d care to know irl. Probably just a run-of-the-mill gold digger anyway.

Perry was a drug addict and an alcoholic for 25+ years. Holy $hit, have you ever known an addict? There are plenty of negatives. I will never undeterred worshipping celebrities and dismissing horrible behaviors. You’re gross PP.

NP. I’m married to an addict in recovery so not dismissing his horrible behaviors. They’re horrible. But he can also be wonderful, sweet, thoughtful, caring, and tender.
When he dies, which I anticipate will be younger than average life expectancy either due to relapse or the damage he has already done to his body, I hope people focus on his good qualities and attributes, and the way he behaves when he is the man he wants to be and is sometimes capable of being, instead of on the horrible behaviors and actions that he is ashamed of and wishes he could take back.

I am a child of an addict. It doesnt' work that way, at least for the kids.

Talk about perspective… kids have it rough growing up with an addict or narcissist.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel really sad when I see the tributes to him. They are mostly of long ago anecdotes and acknowledgment that they had lost touch over the years. I guess he introduced Jonathan Silverman and his wife. They used to text him on their anniversary to thank him. He would write back, best thing I ever did, or something like that. Gag, what self centered people. I know it’s hard to love an addict and no one deserves to be treated poorly by him. But knowing how lonely he was, it just feels really obnoxious to text him about their happiness when he was probably dealing with a lot some of those years. It’s like everyone else grew up, I’m sure some of these people did drugs with him. But he just continued on and ended up so lonely. Really sad.

hmm, I see it differently. I'd be delighted to be remembered for such an important part in another person's life, and grateful they thought of me that way.

Sure, I agree. As someone who is happy with my life. But to send it to someone who clearly struggled with addiction and loneliness and not maintain a relationship otherwise (which they’re not responsible for doing, addicts are hard to stick with, especially if they were just a casual friend), it does feel sad. He talked in his book about wondering about how his life would have been if he had married, had kids.

Thank god he didn’t have kids. Having them would not have stopped him from using drugs. He practically died in 2018 and by 2020 was flying back and forth from US to Switzerland looking for drugs. And that probably was before COVID. I don’t think he would have been able to fly after restrictions went into place. And his “assistant” was with him the last 7 years must have enabled him to do all this crap.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel really sad when I see the tributes to him. They are mostly of long ago anecdotes and acknowledgment that they had lost touch over the years. I guess he introduced Jonathan Silverman and his wife. They used to text him on their anniversary to thank him. He would write back, best thing I ever did, or something like that. Gag, what self centered people. I know it’s hard to love an addict and no one deserves to be treated poorly by him. But knowing how lonely he was, it just feels really obnoxious to text him about their happiness when he was probably dealing with a lot some of those years. It’s like everyone else grew up, I’m sure some of these people did drugs with him. But he just continued on and ended up so lonely. Really sad.

hmm, I see it differently. I'd be delighted to be remembered for such an important part in another person's life, and grateful they thought of me that way.

He hid his addiction for years so pretty sure no one knew how lonely he was but it part it was his own fault. He brought his loneliness on himself. No one wants to be around an addict and someone drifting in and out of consciousness because they are so high on their drugs.

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Anonymous wrote:So in 2018 he almost dies, 2020 going back and forth from US to Switzerland for drugs…his autopsy is deferred based on toxicology report…I was believing he was sober after 2018 thinking it scared him straight….there’s no way he’s been clean since 2020.

Sad and such a waste.

It could have been something like too many anti anxiety drugs plus Ambien making him woozy in hot water.

I wonder if he took something like a muscle relaxer after playing pickleball for two hours and just fell asleep in the hot tub.

Could be. A neighbor, who had a long history of addiction but had been clean for years, was working in the yard one day and died of heat exhaustion. It was a hot day but he said he felt cold and put on a sweatshirt and collapsed an hour later. He was younger than Matthew Perry, maybe late 30s or early 40s. His body had just been through so much that something as simple as yard work was too much.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel really sad when I see the tributes to him. They are mostly of long ago anecdotes and acknowledgment that they had lost touch over the years. I guess he introduced Jonathan Silverman and his wife. They used to text him on their anniversary to thank him. He would write back, best thing I ever did, or something like that. Gag, what self centered people. I know it’s hard to love an addict and no one deserves to be treated poorly by him. But knowing how lonely he was, it just feels really obnoxious to text him about their happiness when he was probably dealing with a lot some of those years. It’s like everyone else grew up, I’m sure some of these people did drugs with him. But he just continued on and ended up so lonely. Really sad.

hmm, I see it differently. I'd be delighted to be remembered for such an important part in another person's life, and grateful they thought of me that way.

Sure, I agree. As someone who is happy with my life. But to send it to someone who clearly struggled with addiction and loneliness and not maintain a relationship otherwise (which they’re not responsible for doing, addicts are hard to stick with, especially if they were just a casual friend), it does feel sad. He talked in his book about wondering about how his life would have been if he had married, had kids.

Anonymous wrote:I feel really sad when I see the tributes to him. They are mostly of long ago anecdotes and acknowledgment that they had lost touch over the years. I guess he introduced Jonathan Silverman and his wife. They used to text him on their anniversary to thank him. He would write back, best thing I ever did, or something like that. Gag, what self centered people. I know it’s hard to love an addict and no one deserves to be treated poorly by him. But knowing how lonely he was, it just feels really obnoxious to text him about their happiness when he was probably dealing with a lot some of those years. It’s like everyone else grew up, I’m sure some of these people did drugs with him. But he just continued on and ended up so lonely. Really sad.

hmm, I see it differently. I'd be delighted to be remembered for such an important part in another person's life, and grateful they thought of me that way.

Anonymous wrote:Where is he buried?

Forest Lawn Memorial Park, Across from the WB studios where they filmed.

Where is he buried?

I feel really sad when I see the tributes to him. They are mostly of long ago anecdotes and acknowledgment that they had lost touch over the years. I guess he introduced Jonathan Silverman and his wife. They used to text him on their anniversary to thank him. He would write back, best thing I ever did, or something like that. Gag, what self centered people. I know it’s hard to love an addict and no one deserves to be treated poorly by him. But knowing how lonely he was, it just feels really obnoxious to text him about their happiness when he was probably dealing with a lot some of those years. It’s like everyone else grew up, I’m sure some of these people did drugs with him. But he just continued on and ended up so lonely. Really sad.

Anonymous wrote:I just this morning finished listening to the audiobook version of his memoir. He ends with such hope of what he would get to experience and do, for the rest of his life. Whatever else he went through, I'm glad that the last major thing he produced is this book - it's very raw, well written, and also feels like a true reckoning. I'm sure plenty is left out - that's memory and memoir - but it really does feel like in this writing, he got to make sense of things and try to move forward.

+1

I was given the same impression. So many people reacted to his death - mostly positive. As someone who seemed so lonely, I am certain her would be happy to know he was loved.

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Anonymous wrote:So in 2018 he almost dies, 2020 going back and forth from US to Switzerland for drugs…his autopsy is deferred based on toxicology report…I was believing he was sober after 2018 thinking it scared him straight….there’s no way he’s been clean since 2020.

Sad and such a waste.

It could have been something like too many anti anxiety drugs plus Ambien making him woozy in hot water.

I wonder if he took something like a muscle relaxer after playing pickleball for two hours and just fell asleep in the hot tub.

My mother, who died around the same age as Matthew Perry, who had decades of addiction, simply died in her sleep. Her heart finally gave out. Time will tell about his particular circumstance, But his doctors had been telling Matthew about the long term impact the drug use did to his body.

I just this morning finished listening to the audiobook version of his memoir. He ends with such hope of what he would get to experience and do, for the rest of his life. Whatever else he went through, I'm glad that the last major thing he produced is this book - it's very raw, well written, and also feels like a true reckoning. I'm sure plenty is left out - that's memory and memoir - but it really does feel like in this writing, he got to make sense of things and try to move forward.

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Anonymous wrote:So in 2018 he almost dies, 2020 going back and forth from US to Switzerland for drugs…his autopsy is deferred based on toxicology report…I was believing he was sober after 2018 thinking it scared him straight….there’s no way he’s been clean since 2020.

Sad and such a waste.

It could have been something like too many anti anxiety drugs plus Ambien making him woozy in hot water.

I wonder if he took something like a muscle relaxer after playing pickleball for two hours and just fell asleep in the hot tub.