Anonymous
09/18/2023 09:59
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's baffling that Michigan and UNC are ranked so high compared to UVA. In Virginia, Michigan is regarded as a safety school and UVA is much better. UVA has a much lower acceptance rate and the SAT scores are much higher, this ranking is a joke.
In Virginia (VA resident for 26 years), Michigan is regarded as a better school in general than UVA and UVA has a higher acceptance rate than Michigan. UVA should be ranked around 30.
Nope. It's much harder for a VA kid from NoVA to get into UVA than UMich. Half our neighborhood is attending UMich currently and the parents would have much rather have saved a ton of $$$ if they could have gotten into UVA and have said as much.
And, my friends from AA say it's the EXACT SAME there re getting into UMich. Your point....
Anonymous
09/18/2023 09:58
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's baffling that Michigan and UNC are ranked so high compared to UVA. In Virginia, Michigan is regarded as a safety school and UVA is much better. UVA has a much lower acceptance rate and the SAT scores are much higher, this ranking is a joke.
In Virginia (VA resident for 26 years), Michigan is regarded as a better school in general than UVA and UVA has a higher acceptance rate than Michigan. UVA should be ranked around 30.
Nope. It's much harder for a VA kid from NoVA to get into UVA than UMich. Half our neighborhood is attending UMich currently and the parents would have much rather have saved a ton of $$$ if they could have gotten into UVA and have said as much.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 09:56
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This year's rankings placed a greater emphasis on social mobility ignoring many academic factors.
the vast majority of people in this country are not wealthy, so the ranking makes more sense to the vast majority of people in this country.
I realize that the wealthy prefer to have their own biased wealthy colleges at the top rankings, though. Maybe you ought to get Town & Country magazine to create a list just for the rich people.
Only wealthy people care about academic factors? Good to know.
Being able to graduate college and increase social mobility is more important to people who are not wealthy, which is the vast majority of people in this country.
Only wealthy people who can buy their way into expensive colleges via ED, college counselors and activities care about the "eliteness" of a college. So yea, go call Town & Country.
Except when increasing social mobility is almost entirely a function of who they let in and not of the education provided to the students once they are admitted. The public schools attract more lower income students, that is pretty much the sole reason for their improvement as a group this year.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 09:56
Subject: Re:2024 US News rankings
It's time to rank publics and privates separately like LACs are separate.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 09:56
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:It's baffling that Michigan and UNC are ranked so high compared to UVA. In Virginia, Michigan is regarded as a safety school and UVA is much better. UVA has a much lower acceptance rate and the SAT scores are much higher, this ranking is a joke.
UVA is mUCh bEtTer.
SAT: UMich 1435 vs. UVA 1430
Go Blue!
Source: prepmatters
Anonymous
09/18/2023 09:55
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:The irony here is that the public schools produce more social mobility only for in state students who are already applying in droves. Most charge private school tuition at full freight to out of staters.
It's not ironic. Most people go to in state universities, so the list makes sense.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 09:54
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA is the best school in the South bar-none. UNC unexpected jump is a fluke that will be corrected next year. Vanderbilt and WashU are trending down as both fell by 5+ spots this year. Rice is too small to have the widespread impact of UVA. Duke no longer has Coach K and basketball is the only reason people care about it. UVA has the best academics, an extremely loyal alumni base, and a commitment to service as a public university.
Virginia is not the south and Emory, Vandy, Rice and Duke are better schools. The former 3 will fix its issues and rise in the rankings. They have the money to do so.
They don’t actually have issues.
Well they fell, and for Vandy significantly. For Rice and Emory a 2 spot drop is technically considered noise but still a drop isn't good and Emory is better than UNC and Umich, should be atleast tied with ND.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 09:52
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's baffling that Michigan and UNC are ranked so high compared to UVA. In Virginia, Michigan is regarded as a safety school and UVA is much better. UVA has a much lower acceptance rate and the SAT scores are much higher, this ranking is a joke.
UVA is a public ivy and Michigan is a safety for public ivy.
? according to whom?
I keep hearing that SAT scores are really meaningless and that's why so many colleges are going TO, so what does it matter that one college has higher SAT scores than the other? It's self selecting. BTW, my kid had a 1580 on their SATs.
The acceptance rate is based on the number of people applying there, correct? If more people apply to UVA only because more kids in VA go to college compared to MI, then the acceptance rate doesn't really matter much.
Michigan gets more applications than UVA but is much easier to get into as an instate student.[/quote
It’s easier for sure. That’s an accurate assessment.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 09:51
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's baffling that Michigan and UNC are ranked so high compared to UVA. In Virginia, Michigan is regarded as a safety school and UVA is much better. UVA has a much lower acceptance rate and the SAT scores are much higher, this ranking is a joke.
UVA is a public ivy and Michigan is a safety for public ivy.
? according to whom?
I keep hearing that SAT scores are really meaningless and that's why so many colleges are going TO, so what does it matter that one college has higher SAT scores than the other? It's self selecting. BTW, my kid had a 1580 on their SATs.
The acceptance rate is based on the number of people applying there, correct? If more people apply to UVA only because more kids in VA go to college compared to MI, then the acceptance rate doesn't really matter much.
Michigan gets more applications than UVA but is much easier to get into as an instate student.
The get more applicants from out of state than UVA? Doesn't that mean that on a national scale, Mich is more popular than UVA?
Anonymous
09/18/2023 09:51
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:UVA is the best school in the South bar-none. UNC unexpected jump is a fluke that will be corrected next year. Vanderbilt and WashU are trending down as both fell by 5+ spots this year. Rice is too small to have the widespread impact of UVA. Duke no longer has Coach K and basketball is the only reason people care about it. UVA has the best academics, an extremely loyal alumni base, and a commitment to service as a public university.
Virginia is not the south and Emory, Vandy, Rice and Duke are better schools. The former 3 will fix its issues and rise in the rankings. They have the money to do so.
They don’t actually have issues.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 09:50
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
The irony here is that the public schools produce more social mobility only for in state students who are already applying in droves. Most charge private school tuition at full freight to out of staters.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 09:50
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:It's baffling that Michigan and UNC are ranked so high compared to UVA. In Virginia, Michigan is regarded as a safety school and UVA is much better. UVA has a much lower acceptance rate and the SAT scores are much higher, this ranking is a joke.
In Virginia (VA resident for 26 years), Michigan is regarded as a better school in general than UVA and UVA has a higher acceptance rate than Michigan. UVA should be ranked around 30.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 09:49
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:UVA is the best school in the South bar-none. UNC unexpected jump is a fluke that will be corrected next year. Vanderbilt and WashU are trending down as both fell by 5+ spots this year. Rice is too small to have the widespread impact of UVA. Duke no longer has Coach K and basketball is the only reason people care about it. UVA has the best academics, an extremely loyal alumni base, and a commitment to service as a public university.
Virginia is not the south and Emory, Vandy, Rice and Duke are better schools. The former 3 will fix its issues and rise in the rankings. They have the money to do so.
Anonymous
09/18/2023 09:49
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
With a New Formula, U.S. News Rankings Boost Some State Universities - NYT
Anonymous
09/18/2023 09:49
Subject: 2024 US News rankings
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This year's rankings placed a greater emphasis on social mobility ignoring many academic factors.
the vast majority of people in this country are not wealthy, so the ranking makes more sense to the vast majority of people in this country.
I realize that the wealthy prefer to have their own biased wealthy colleges at the top rankings, though. Maybe you ought to get Town & Country magazine to create a list just for the rich people.
Only wealthy people care about academic factors? Good to know.
Being able to graduate college and increase social mobility is more important to people who are not wealthy, which is the vast majority of people in this country.
Only wealthy people who can buy their way into expensive colleges via ED, college counselors and activities care about the "eliteness" of a college. So yea, go call Town & Country.