Anonymous
09/27/2023 11:35
Subject: 2025 Girls Commits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the point was since UVA is such a good school, and fairly inexpensive if you live in VA, why is it that so few players from VA go there?
Because UVA is a top 20 program and (sit down for this) wouldn’t be if they only favored NoVa public school players. JMU has one NoVa public school player on its current roster - the reason it’s a top 10 team is not because of NoVa public school talent. Not hating on NoVa public schools but folks please open your eyes to the fact there just might possibly be better talent beyond this very small pool.
You’re responding to an argument no one made. At least you managed to come off as an jerk while doing it.
Oh, that argument was made. Follow with me: UVA does not have a lot of public school VA players rostered. The "Why" is what is being debated. Someone made the statement that those public school kids aren't that interested. The reality, which is stated above, is UVA isn't interested in them for varying reasons.
The OP didn't say anything about public vs. private, someone threw public into the conversation. They simply were making an observation that there were not many VA kids (Either public or private) on UVA's roster. Given it's in state for VA. kids, it seems a little odd. U of Maryland retains their kids and they could go just about anywhere too. One poster mentioned the kids that can get in (grades) and can play (are good) for UVA often look to other schools such as NW, ND, Duke, Stanford, etc. That makes sense, but I don't think UVA is far behind some of those schools academically (if at all) and it's a fraction of the price.
Wrong again, here is the comment that hit this entire ball rolling:
“UVA’s recruiting under the previous coach was tilted heavily towards out of state private school players. Numerous public school standouts couldn’t even get the coaches to look at their video or respond to emails. Hopefully, the new regime will be better.”
Please keep up
Anonymous
09/27/2023 11:29
Subject: Re:2025 Girls Commits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really do think that people outside of Capital don't know just how close some of the talent is on Blue and Orange. Granted not all of the players but the top players on the Orange team could easily interchange with many on Blue. The Dartmouth commit started out on Orange as an example. People who don't watch the actual players or say for instance a practice where they scrimmage each other really don't know and should stay quiet.
This. A Capital Orange goalie actually started their state championship game for Yorktown over the Blue goalie. So they are very close.
Do you not realize coaches often start the weaker goalie so they can bring in the stronger goalie when necessary? It gives a coach time to evaluate the other team’s offense, gets both goalies playing time, but allows the coach to sub in the stronger goalie when necessary. Smart coaches finish with the stronger goalie. It’s a well known strategy.
Wouldn't the strongest goalie just play the whole game? Its a goalie not a pitcher....what am I missing?
Goalies are a different species. Some coaches alternate goalies. Some have a starter and a reliever. In some cases, the stronger starts. In other cases, the weaker. A competitive team will usually start the stronger in meaningful games but might start the weaker or play the weaker significantly so that she gets game experience. Doubtful, though, that a coach would have two goalies where one is meaningfully stronger and start the weaker in a playoff game. And, of course, this is all subject to (1) perception as to who is stronger and weaker (that doesn't always match reality) and (2) the "hot hand" theory.
Anonymous
09/27/2023 11:19
Subject: Re:2025 Girls Commits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really do think that people outside of Capital don't know just how close some of the talent is on Blue and Orange. Granted not all of the players but the top players on the Orange team could easily interchange with many on Blue. The Dartmouth commit started out on Orange as an example. People who don't watch the actual players or say for instance a practice where they scrimmage each other really don't know and should stay quiet.
This. A Capital Orange goalie actually started their state championship game for Yorktown over the Blue goalie. So they are very close.
Do you not realize coaches often start the weaker goalie so they can bring in the stronger goalie when necessary? It gives a coach time to evaluate the other team’s offense, gets both goalies playing time, but allows the coach to sub in the stronger goalie when necessary. Smart coaches finish with the stronger goalie. It’s a well known strategy.
I was there and I don't recall seeing her play at all in that game which was for all the marbles, so I don't know what that means for her...
When they crushed BF in the easiest game of the year? The coach gave the other two goalies field time after not playing all season.
Anonymous
09/27/2023 11:15
Subject: Re:2025 Girls Commits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really do think that people outside of Capital don't know just how close some of the talent is on Blue and Orange. Granted not all of the players but the top players on the Orange team could easily interchange with many on Blue. The Dartmouth commit started out on Orange as an example. People who don't watch the actual players or say for instance a practice where they scrimmage each other really don't know and should stay quiet.
This. A Capital Orange goalie actually started their state championship game for Yorktown over the Blue goalie. So they are very close.
So obsessed with the Cap/YHS Goalie - creepy
Anonymous
09/27/2023 11:02
Subject: 2025 Girls Commits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the point was since UVA is such a good school, and fairly inexpensive if you live in VA, why is it that so few players from VA go there?
Because UVA is a top 20 program and (sit down for this) wouldn’t be if they only favored NoVa public school players. JMU has one NoVa public school player on its current roster - the reason it’s a top 10 team is not because of NoVa public school talent. Not hating on NoVa public schools but folks please open your eyes to the fact there just might possibly be better talent beyond this very small pool.
You’re responding to an argument no one made. At least you managed to come off as an jerk while doing it.
Oh, that argument was made. Follow with me: UVA does not have a lot of public school VA players rostered. The "Why" is what is being debated. Someone made the statement that those public school kids aren't that interested. The reality, which is stated above, is UVA isn't interested in them for varying reasons.
The OP didn't say anything about public vs. private, someone threw public into the conversation. They simply were making an observation that there were not many VA kids (Either public or private) on UVA's roster. Given it's in state for VA. kids, it seems a little odd. U of Maryland retains their kids and they could go just about anywhere too. One poster mentioned the kids that can get in (grades) and can play (are good) for UVA often look to other schools such as NW, ND, Duke, Stanford, etc. That makes sense, but I don't think UVA is far behind some of those schools academically (if at all) and it's a fraction of the price.
I think similar to UVA, UNC. They don't take a lot of NC kids either.
Well, lacrosse in NC is not very good. At least compared to the DMV. It is growing though.
Anonymous
09/27/2023 11:00
Subject: 2025 Girls Commits
There are two players from NC on UNC 2024 roster. Why? don't these NC players want to play for UNC? The answer is NC isn't offering them and that is the same answer to why so few VA players on UVA.
Anonymous
09/27/2023 10:54
Subject: Re:2025 Girls Commits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really do think that people outside of Capital don't know just how close some of the talent is on Blue and Orange. Granted not all of the players but the top players on the Orange team could easily interchange with many on Blue. The Dartmouth commit started out on Orange as an example. People who don't watch the actual players or say for instance a practice where they scrimmage each other really don't know and should stay quiet.
This. A Capital Orange goalie actually started their state championship game for Yorktown over the Blue goalie. So they are very close.
Do you not realize coaches often start the weaker goalie so they can bring in the stronger goalie when necessary? It gives a coach time to evaluate the other team’s offense, gets both goalies playing time, but allows the coach to sub in the stronger goalie when necessary. Smart coaches finish with the stronger goalie. It’s a well known strategy.
I was there and I don't recall seeing her play at all in that game which was for all the marbles, so I don't know what that means for her...
Probably why she left for SR.
Anonymous
09/27/2023 10:47
Subject: Re:2025 Girls Commits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really do think that people outside of Capital don't know just how close some of the talent is on Blue and Orange. Granted not all of the players but the top players on the Orange team could easily interchange with many on Blue. The Dartmouth commit started out on Orange as an example. People who don't watch the actual players or say for instance a practice where they scrimmage each other really don't know and should stay quiet.
This. A Capital Orange goalie actually started their state championship game for Yorktown over the Blue goalie. So they are very close.
Do you not realize coaches often start the weaker goalie so they can bring in the stronger goalie when necessary? It gives a coach time to evaluate the other team’s offense, gets both goalies playing time, but allows the coach to sub in the stronger goalie when necessary. Smart coaches finish with the stronger goalie. It’s a well known strategy.
I was there and I don't recall seeing her play at all in that game which was for all the marbles, so I don't know what that means for her...
Coach thought the Orange goalie was better with the title on the line after seeing them every day all Spring???
The point is that many Blue/Orange players often have a thin line between them.
Anonymous
09/27/2023 10:42
Subject: 2025 Girls Commits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In the end the recruiting really goes one way - if a coach isn’t interested in you then it’s never going to happen. Sounds like UVA prefers kids from out of state - for whatever reason. Could be a financial thing for the university or regional diversity or any number of reasons. Still isn’t great for players who would like to stay in state.
Curious how this compares to Univ of MD? Do they keep instate or do they get from NY CT etc? If it’s similar than the answer is that they just weren’t that into you.
Look at the roster, it’s available online. UMD gets players from all sorts of different regions. Very few from in-state public schools.
About 2/3rds of the Terps' roster is home grown. Of the Maryland girls on the current roster: 15 went to private schools (4 Glenelg, 3 McDonogh, 2 each John Carroll and Notre Dame, 1 each Gerstell, Roland Park, Spalding and Maryvale), 4 went to public schools in MD (2 Marriotts Ridge, 1 each Hereford and Oakdale) and one was homeschooled.
Anonymous
09/27/2023 10:41
Subject: Re:2025 Girls Commits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really do think that people outside of Capital don't know just how close some of the talent is on Blue and Orange. Granted not all of the players but the top players on the Orange team could easily interchange with many on Blue. The Dartmouth commit started out on Orange as an example. People who don't watch the actual players or say for instance a practice where they scrimmage each other really don't know and should stay quiet.
This. A Capital Orange goalie actually started their state championship game for Yorktown over the Blue goalie. So they are very close.
Do you not realize coaches often start the weaker goalie so they can bring in the stronger goalie when necessary? It gives a coach time to evaluate the other team’s offense, gets both goalies playing time, but allows the coach to sub in the stronger goalie when necessary. Smart coaches finish with the stronger goalie. It’s a well known strategy.
I was there and I don't recall seeing her play at all in that game which was for all the marbles, so I don't know what that means for her...
Anonymous
09/27/2023 10:39
Subject: Re:2025 Girls Commits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really do think that people outside of Capital don't know just how close some of the talent is on Blue and Orange. Granted not all of the players but the top players on the Orange team could easily interchange with many on Blue. The Dartmouth commit started out on Orange as an example. People who don't watch the actual players or say for instance a practice where they scrimmage each other really don't know and should stay quiet.
This. A Capital Orange goalie actually started their state championship game for Yorktown over the Blue goalie. So they are very close.
Do you not realize coaches often start the weaker goalie so they can bring in the stronger goalie when necessary? It gives a coach time to evaluate the other team’s offense, gets both goalies playing time, but allows the coach to sub in the stronger goalie when necessary. Smart coaches finish with the stronger goalie. It’s a well known strategy.
In club it's common. But not in high school. You start your starter and should keep them all game. Splitting goalie time in high school in a big game is not common. What if your starter gives up too much and, with no shot clock, the other team drains the clock?
Anonymous
09/27/2023 10:36
Subject: Re:2025 Girls Commits
Anonymous wrote:I really do think that people outside of Capital don't know just how close some of the talent is on Blue and Orange. Granted not all of the players but the top players on the Orange team could easily interchange with many on Blue. The Dartmouth commit started out on Orange as an example. People who don't watch the actual players or say for instance a practice where they scrimmage each other really don't know and should stay quiet.
Agreed. How do those top Orange players fair? Does it really hurt them to not be able to say they were on Blue? How different is the exposure?
Anonymous
09/27/2023 10:35
Subject: Re:2025 Girls Commits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I really do think that people outside of Capital don't know just how close some of the talent is on Blue and Orange. Granted not all of the players but the top players on the Orange team could easily interchange with many on Blue. The Dartmouth commit started out on Orange as an example. People who don't watch the actual players or say for instance a practice where they scrimmage each other really don't know and should stay quiet.
This. A Capital Orange goalie actually started their state championship game for Yorktown over the Blue goalie. So they are very close.
Do you not realize coaches often start the weaker goalie so they can bring in the stronger goalie when necessary? It gives a coach time to evaluate the other team’s offense, gets both goalies playing time, but allows the coach to sub in the stronger goalie when necessary. Smart coaches finish with the stronger goalie. It’s a well known strategy.
As a parent of a goalie, this is crazy talk. You start your strongest goalie typically because you don't know what type of of game its going to be. You can't take away goals once they are scored. If game is tight, you can play your top player the entire game, rather than dig a hole you are unable to recover from. If its a blowout, you can feel free to play equal.
Anonymous
09/27/2023 10:31
Subject: 2025 Girls Commits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the point was since UVA is such a good school, and fairly inexpensive if you live in VA, why is it that so few players from VA go there?
Because UVA is a top 20 program and (sit down for this) wouldn’t be if they only favored NoVa public school players. JMU has one NoVa public school player on its current roster - the reason it’s a top 10 team is not because of NoVa public school talent. Not hating on NoVa public schools but folks please open your eyes to the fact there just might possibly be better talent beyond this very small pool.
You’re responding to an argument no one made. At least you managed to come off as an jerk while doing it.
Oh, that argument was made. Follow with me: UVA does not have a lot of public school VA players rostered. The "Why" is what is being debated. Someone made the statement that those public school kids aren't that interested. The reality, which is stated above, is UVA isn't interested in them for varying reasons.
The OP didn't say anything about public vs. private, someone threw public into the conversation. They simply were making an observation that there were not many VA kids (Either public or private) on UVA's roster. Given it's in state for VA. kids, it seems a little odd. U of Maryland retains their kids and they could go just about anywhere too. One poster mentioned the kids that can get in (grades) and can play (are good) for UVA often look to other schools such as NW, ND, Duke, Stanford, etc. That makes sense, but I don't think UVA is far behind some of those schools academically (if at all) and it's a fraction of the price.
I think similar to UVA, UNC. They don't take a lot of NC kids either.
Anonymous
09/27/2023 10:30
Subject: 2025 Girls Commits
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:In the end the recruiting really goes one way - if a coach isn’t interested in you then it’s never going to happen. Sounds like UVA prefers kids from out of state - for whatever reason. Could be a financial thing for the university or regional diversity or any number of reasons. Still isn’t great for players who would like to stay in state.
Curious how this compares to Univ of MD? Do they keep instate or do they get from NY CT etc? If it’s similar than the answer is that they just weren’t that into you.
Mostly in state with a heavy smattering of NY/CT/NJ and a few outliers. About half private (mostly IAAM). But, even more than JMU isn't UVA, UVA isn't Maryland.