Anonymous
Post 08/24/2023 02:13     Subject: MCPS teachers - what would you tell parents in your class(es) if you could?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:If they need more slps, they can contract out.


You’re just not listening. No they are not these hidden reserves. Not everyone slp wants to work for MCPS either. Like damn, you’re showing your refusal to listen along w ignorance proving previous posters exactly right.


You are not listening. They can contract out. They would not work for mcps. Or pay private therapists for parents who can take the kids.


People in these roles have no desire to work in schools, when they can have a much better work life balance working in a private setting


MCPS has lots of contracts. They can contract out like they do for Infant and Toddler and have the SLP's work for a few hours a week or on a full time contract. You don't seem to understand how it works.


No, YOU don’t seem to understand how it works. You just keep parroting the same pie in the sky fantasy that is not going to happen.


DP, but speech is already being contracted out at my kid’s school.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2023 01:26     Subject: MCPS teachers - what would you tell parents in your class(es) if you could?

Anonymous wrote:I hope we will get charter schools and school choice in MD so parents can get vouchers and a choice where to place their kids. My taxes go to fund idiots and criminally negligent people and their pensions.


We had one and it was terrible and shut down.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2023 01:19     Subject: MCPS teachers - what would you tell parents in your class(es) if you could?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If they need more slps, they can contract out.


You’re just not listening. No they are not these hidden reserves. Not everyone slp wants to work for MCPS either. Like damn, you’re showing your refusal to listen along w ignorance proving previous posters exactly right.


You are not listening. They can contract out. They would not work for mcps. Or pay private therapists for parents who can take the kids.


People in these roles have no desire to work in schools, when they can have a much better work life balance working in a private setting


MCPS has lots of contracts. They can contract out like they do for Infant and Toddler and have the SLP's work for a few hours a week or on a full time contract. You don't seem to understand how it works.


No, YOU don’t seem to understand how it works. You just keep parroting the same pie in the sky fantasy that is not going to happen.


You realize mcps already contracts out done services.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2023 00:51     Subject: MCPS teachers - what would you tell parents in your class(es) if you could?

What can I do to truly help your child? Your family? We are a team and I want you to have the best year ever! I work very hard to ensure that all my families feel connected to their child and their educational journey.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2023 00:21     Subject: MCPS teachers - what would you tell parents in your class(es) if you could?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If they need more slps, they can contract out.


You’re just not listening. No they are not these hidden reserves. Not everyone slp wants to work for MCPS either. Like damn, you’re showing your refusal to listen along w ignorance proving previous posters exactly right.


You are not listening. They can contract out. They would not work for mcps. Or pay private therapists for parents who can take the kids.


People in these roles have no desire to work in schools, when they can have a much better work life balance working in a private setting


MCPS has lots of contracts. They can contract out like they do for Infant and Toddler and have the SLP's work for a few hours a week or on a full time contract. You don't seem to understand how it works.


No, YOU don’t seem to understand how it works. You just keep parroting the same pie in the sky fantasy that is not going to happen.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2023 00:15     Subject: MCPS teachers - what would you tell parents in your class(es) if you could?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I’m not a special education teacher but a general education teacher. From what I have seen, no one is trying to lie and hide things on purpose. The special education team at my school genuinely cares about kids and advocates for them. It just becomes impossible sometimes to provide all the supports that some students need. The staff is overwhelmed. Some iep meetings take several hours and that is just for one student. Some parents can also be unreasonable and unrealistic. Lawsuits happen frequently and cause additional stress along with an extra deluge of paperwork.


This is like saying it's impossible for me to stop at all stop signs and red lights. It slows me down, increases gas consumption, wears out brake pads. Sped is governed by a federal law. It's literally your school's admin's job to request the resources. So why bother them with that, right, it's not nice to force the admin to their job and the central to do their job? Why make noise to all these important people who allocate budgets. Instead, in your head you call it "it just becomes impossible" and poof, it's just an amorphous concept. Nobody to blame, it's just how it is. No, dude, no.

Reminds me how they said about Vietnam war in the end "Mistakes were made". Decision makers f'ed up big time, costing lives and resources, hiding their failures, etc... Buck stops somewhere, always. You're enabling people who get paid to allocate resources by pretending that no big deal is happening here.

SPED and FAPE are federal laws, sure. But they don't send the funding to make it happen. Rock, meet Hard Place.


So you’re saying there’s a law that costs organizations money in order to comply it with it? I’m shocked.

Do you similarly complain about the ADA? Accounting requirements for businesses? Car seat laws impacting families?

Besides, the money ultimately comes from (roughly) the same places. Does it really matter whether the taxes were collected at the local, state, or federal level?


There are not enough people in schools to do all the work required by these laws. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Special education already takes up at least 50% of the budget maybe more. No one is going to work 20 hours a day just because there are laws in place. Instead they will quit which is what ends up happening.


So you’re saying MCPS needs a larger budget. Sure. But I don’t see why that would need to come from federal tax dollars as opposed to state/local tax dollars.

And no, special education expenses are nowhere near 50%. What in the world gave you that idea?


Mcps has plenty of money. They need to cut out the wasteful spending.
Anonymous
Post 08/24/2023 00:10     Subject: MCPS teachers - what would you tell parents in your class(es) if you could?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m not a special education teacher but a general education teacher. From what I have seen, no one is trying to lie and hide things on purpose. The special education team at my school genuinely cares about kids and advocates for them. It just becomes impossible sometimes to provide all the supports that some students need. The staff is overwhelmed. Some iep meetings take several hours and that is just for one student. Some parents can also be unreasonable and unrealistic. Lawsuits happen frequently and cause additional stress along with an extra deluge of paperwork.


This is like saying it's impossible for me to stop at all stop signs and red lights. It slows me down, increases gas consumption, wears out brake pads. Sped is governed by a federal law. It's literally your school's admin's job to request the resources. So why bother them with that, right, it's not nice to force the admin to their job and the central to do their job? Why make noise to all these important people who allocate budgets. Instead, in your head you call it "it just becomes impossible" and poof, it's just an amorphous concept. Nobody to blame, it's just how it is. No, dude, no.

Reminds me how they said about Vietnam war in the end "Mistakes were made". Decision makers f'ed up big time, costing lives and resources, hiding their failures, etc... Buck stops somewhere, always. You're enabling people who get paid to allocate resources by pretending that no big deal is happening here.

SPED and FAPE are federal laws, sure. But they don't send the funding to make it happen. Rock, meet Hard Place.


So you’re saying there’s a law that costs organizations money in order to comply it with it? I’m shocked.

Do you similarly complain about the ADA? Accounting requirements for businesses? Car seat laws impacting families?

Besides, the money ultimately comes from (roughly) the same places. Does it really matter whether the taxes were collected at the local, state, or federal level?


There are not enough people in schools to do all the work required by these laws. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Special education already takes up at least 50% of the budget maybe more. No one is going to work 20 hours a day just because there are laws in place. Instead they will quit which is what ends up happening.


So you’re saying MCPS needs a larger budget. Sure. But I don’t see why that would need to come from federal tax dollars as opposed to state/local tax dollars.

And no, special education expenses are nowhere near 50%. What in the world gave you that idea?
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2023 06:35     Subject: MCPS teachers - what would you tell parents in your class(es) if you could?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m not a special education teacher but a general education teacher. From what I have seen, no one is trying to lie and hide things on purpose. The special education team at my school genuinely cares about kids and advocates for them. It just becomes impossible sometimes to provide all the supports that some students need. The staff is overwhelmed. Some iep meetings take several hours and that is just for one student. Some parents can also be unreasonable and unrealistic. Lawsuits happen frequently and cause additional stress along with an extra deluge of paperwork.


This is like saying it's impossible for me to stop at all stop signs and red lights. It slows me down, increases gas consumption, wears out brake pads. Sped is governed by a federal law. It's literally your school's admin's job to request the resources. So why bother them with that, right, it's not nice to force the admin to their job and the central to do their job? Why make noise to all these important people who allocate budgets. Instead, in your head you call it "it just becomes impossible" and poof, it's just an amorphous concept. Nobody to blame, it's just how it is. No, dude, no.

Reminds me how they said about Vietnam war in the end "Mistakes were made". Decision makers f'ed up big time, costing lives and resources, hiding their failures, etc... Buck stops somewhere, always. You're enabling people who get paid to allocate resources by pretending that no big deal is happening here.

SPED and FAPE are federal laws, sure. But they don't send the funding to make it happen. Rock, meet Hard Place.


So you’re saying there’s a law that costs organizations money in order to comply it with it? I’m shocked.

Do you similarly complain about the ADA? Accounting requirements for businesses? Car seat laws impacting families?

Besides, the money ultimately comes from (roughly) the same places. Does it really matter whether the taxes were collected at the local, state, or federal level?


There are not enough people in schools to do all the work required by these laws. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Special education already takes up at least 50% of the budget maybe more. No one is going to work 20 hours a day just because there are laws in place. Instead they will quit which is what ends up happening.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 22:37     Subject: MCPS teachers - what would you tell parents in your class(es) if you could?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m not a special education teacher but a general education teacher. From what I have seen, no one is trying to lie and hide things on purpose. The special education team at my school genuinely cares about kids and advocates for them. It just becomes impossible sometimes to provide all the supports that some students need. The staff is overwhelmed. Some iep meetings take several hours and that is just for one student. Some parents can also be unreasonable and unrealistic. Lawsuits happen frequently and cause additional stress along with an extra deluge of paperwork.


This is like saying it's impossible for me to stop at all stop signs and red lights. It slows me down, increases gas consumption, wears out brake pads. Sped is governed by a federal law. It's literally your school's admin's job to request the resources. So why bother them with that, right, it's not nice to force the admin to their job and the central to do their job? Why make noise to all these important people who allocate budgets. Instead, in your head you call it "it just becomes impossible" and poof, it's just an amorphous concept. Nobody to blame, it's just how it is. No, dude, no.

Reminds me how they said about Vietnam war in the end "Mistakes were made". Decision makers f'ed up big time, costing lives and resources, hiding their failures, etc... Buck stops somewhere, always. You're enabling people who get paid to allocate resources by pretending that no big deal is happening here.

SPED and FAPE are federal laws, sure. But they don't send the funding to make it happen. Rock, meet Hard Place.


So you’re saying there’s a law that costs organizations money in order to comply it with it? I’m shocked.

Do you similarly complain about the ADA? Accounting requirements for businesses? Car seat laws impacting families?

Besides, the money ultimately comes from (roughly) the same places. Does it really matter whether the taxes were collected at the local, state, or federal level?
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 19:02     Subject: MCPS teachers - what would you tell parents in your class(es) if you could?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If they need more slps, they can contract out.


You’re just not listening. No they are not these hidden reserves. Not everyone slp wants to work for MCPS either. Like damn, you’re showing your refusal to listen along w ignorance proving previous posters exactly right.


You are not listening. They can contract out. They would not work for mcps. Or pay private therapists for parents who can take the kids.


People in these roles have no desire to work in schools, when they can have a much better work life balance working in a private setting


MCPS has lots of contracts. They can contract out like they do for Infant and Toddler and have the SLP's work for a few hours a week or on a full time contract. You don't seem to understand how it works.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 12:10     Subject: MCPS teachers - what would you tell parents in your class(es) if you could?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m not a special education teacher but a general education teacher. From what I have seen, no one is trying to lie and hide things on purpose. The special education team at my school genuinely cares about kids and advocates for them. It just becomes impossible sometimes to provide all the supports that some students need. The staff is overwhelmed. Some iep meetings take several hours and that is just for one student. Some parents can also be unreasonable and unrealistic. Lawsuits happen frequently and cause additional stress along with an extra deluge of paperwork.


This is like saying it's impossible for me to stop at all stop signs and red lights. It slows me down, increases gas consumption, wears out brake pads. Sped is governed by a federal law. It's literally your school's admin's job to request the resources. So why bother them with that, right, it's not nice to force the admin to their job and the central to do their job? Why make noise to all these important people who allocate budgets. Instead, in your head you call it "it just becomes impossible" and poof, it's just an amorphous concept. Nobody to blame, it's just how it is. No, dude, no.

Reminds me how they said about Vietnam war in the end "Mistakes were made". Decision makers f'ed up big time, costing lives and resources, hiding their failures, etc... Buck stops somewhere, always. You're enabling people who get paid to allocate resources by pretending that no big deal is happening here.

SPED and FAPE are federal laws, sure. But they don't send the funding to make it happen. Rock, meet Hard Place.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 08:30     Subject: MCPS teachers - what would you tell parents in your class(es) if you could?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If they need more slps, they can contract out.


You’re just not listening. No they are not these hidden reserves. Not everyone slp wants to work for MCPS either. Like damn, you’re showing your refusal to listen along w ignorance proving previous posters exactly right.


You are not listening. They can contract out. They would not work for mcps. Or pay private therapists for parents who can take the kids.


People in these roles have no desire to work in schools, when they can have a much better work life balance working in a private setting
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 08:09     Subject: MCPS teachers - what would you tell parents in your class(es) if you could?

I hope we will get charter schools and school choice in MD so parents can get vouchers and a choice where to place their kids. My taxes go to fund idiots and criminally negligent people and their pensions.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 05:11     Subject: MCPS teachers - what would you tell parents in your class(es) if you could?

Anonymous wrote:
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“WAH! Why don’t you say this so I can sue the school?”

You’re absurd.


Honestly? I have kids of my own and a mortgage. Just like everyone else, I am going to protect myself first. Sorry, I am human and my ability to live the rest of my life is simply more important than other people’s kids.


I’m a teacher who posted above. This is why I quit working at one school. I was threatened with legal action even though I calmly and repeatedly explained I can’t perform a task the family required. They may as well have asked me to move a mountain or drain an ocean; I didn’t have the time, ability, or access to resources to do what they wanted.

I quit to protect myself. I knew the demands were going to escalate and no reason or logic on my part was going to make a difference. I loved that school and would have preferred staying, but my health and family have to come first.


Threatened *you* with legal action or threatened MCPS with legal action while talking to you? Almost certainly the latter.

Why would that be bad? The only way MCPS will begin to staff special education appropriately is if they begin to lose lawsuits.


JFC. You people are beyond clueless.


I answered this upthread.

You’re dense and a bully. Your attitude is a perfect example of the hostility faced by teachers. The same way I wouldn’t accept their poor treatment of me, I won’t accept yours.

I’m not a pawn, which is what you want me to be in your crusade against MCPS. I’m a human with my own livelihood and happiness to protect.

My heart goes out to any people who have to deal with you in real life.
Anonymous
Post 08/22/2023 01:58     Subject: MCPS teachers - what would you tell parents in your class(es) if you could?

Anonymous wrote:If they need more slps, they can contract out.


LOL