Nothing. Biking blows. Everyone who is ever going to be into bikes in Washington dc is already on the road. And as you may have noticed, the vast majority of bike lanes are barely used.

Curious why someone reported the post that actual rule of law punctuality and hygiene

More expensive options that you would have to be vetted for. For every kid of public transit.

To paraphrase Jim Gaffigan, when I see a cyclist I just think: “you’re going to die”

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My car is my relaxing space.

What does gridlock do for your mellow car vibes?

I would rather be in my nice Audi than a disgusting, inefficient, crowded metro bus or train..

Even if there was a metro stop outside my home and dropped me off right out front of my office, I would drive.

My car is my relaxing space.

What does gridlock do for your mellow car vibes?

nothing.

My car is my relaxing space.

Anonymous wrote:Also, the thing about cars is that they are the only transit that takes you where you want, when you want, not to mention with whom you want (or don't want), along the route you want, making all the stops you want, while carrying all your stuff, with a variety of creature comforts.

Of course there is a high cost associated with that flexibility, but it's tough to beat.

Assuming that

1. Someone has built a road that goes there
2. Someone has made the necessary fuel available
3. Other people in cars aren't trying to do the same thing at the same time

(Item #3 is generally referred to as "traffic.")

Other vehicles that can do all of those things, except the "creature comforts" of sitting in a climate-controlled armchair with entertainment, at less expense: golf carts, motorcycles, mopeds, bicycles, and really, your own two feet. Oh, and public transit could do all of those things too, if we had a high-frequency network of transit, except the "I don't want to associate with people" part.

Also, the thing about cars is that they are the only transit that takes you where you want, when you want, not to mention with whom you want (or don't want), along the route you want, making all the stops you want, while carrying all your stuff, with a variety of creature comforts.

Of course there is a high cost associated with that flexibility, but it's tough to beat.

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Anonymous wrote:Conservatives hate public transit for the same reasons they tend to hate bikes, bike lanes, reusable bags, thrifted clothing, electric stoves and electric cars.

Complete baloney, conservatives tend to be extremely cheap in their personal lives and use all of the above with the exception of electric cars as they are too pricey currently. You don't know any conservatives.

Political conservatives or small C conservatives?

I don't know what the difference is. I work with and am related to conservatives who ride their bikes to work, bring their lunch in a canvas tote, shop at Goodwill, while they have millions in the bank.

Conservative would mean Republican; while conservative would mean someone who strives to “conserve” energy, money, time, something meaningful.

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Anonymous wrote:What would it take? A multinational corporation to relocate a large office to within 15-30min bike ride of my house in a county that is extremely harsh on taxes. Also would need to be between 50-70 degrees that only happens about 15% of the year. So, basically it would take a miracle, which is why this bike stuff is so dumb

That says a lot about you and not much about "bike stuff".

PP is right. All the bike planning makes no sense unless we start building complete communities that have plentiful jobs at all income levels and housing at all levels of affordability. We spend a lot of time on housing but not much in jobs. Like where are all these people going to work? Right now the answer to that question is Tysons. It’s hard to bike there from NW or Silver Spring. Bike trails and bike lanes won’t change that much.

Everyone will work in Tysons? And nobody will make any trips at all, except to and from work (in Tysons)? No. Yes, we need better land use policies, better housing policies - and better transportation policies. All at once.

Unless you work for the government, retail/hospitality or Marriott, or real estate, you probably are not working in Montgomery County and that is a huge problem that none of these things are going to fix.

Because land use, housing, and transportation policies have nothing to do with jobs? Huh.

They have everything to do with jobs. The primary output of land use, housing, and transportation policies should be job growth.

Montgomery County’s job growth record is terrible and yet we based our master plan on the same things we’ve been doing while the rest of the area got job growth and we didn’t. If you’re part of the MoCo YIMBY echo chamber, now would be a good time to step back, figure out what went wrong, and fix it.

Nice self own though.

Really? I think the primary goals of land use, housing, and transportation policies should be an increase in societal well-being.

I still can’t tell if this person is serious. On the one hand, it sounds really dumb. On the other hand, there are the actual housing, transportation, and land use policies in Montgomery County.

The answer is that they are perfectly aligned with Montgomery County and both are extremely dumb.

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Anonymous wrote:What would it take? A multinational corporation to relocate a large office to within 15-30min bike ride of my house in a county that is extremely harsh on taxes. Also would need to be between 50-70 degrees that only happens about 15% of the year. So, basically it would take a miracle, which is why this bike stuff is so dumb

That says a lot about you and not much about "bike stuff".

PP is right. All the bike planning makes no sense unless we start building complete communities that have plentiful jobs at all income levels and housing at all levels of affordability. We spend a lot of time on housing but not much in jobs. Like where are all these people going to work? Right now the answer to that question is Tysons. It’s hard to bike there from NW or Silver Spring. Bike trails and bike lanes won’t change that much.

Everyone will work in Tysons? And nobody will make any trips at all, except to and from work (in Tysons)? No. Yes, we need better land use policies, better housing policies - and better transportation policies. All at once.

Unless you work for the government, retail/hospitality or Marriott, or real estate, you probably are not working in Montgomery County and that is a huge problem that none of these things are going to fix.

Because land use, housing, and transportation policies have nothing to do with jobs? Huh.

They have everything to do with jobs. The primary output of land use, housing, and transportation policies should be job growth.

Montgomery County’s job growth record is terrible and yet we based our master plan on the same things we’ve been doing while the rest of the area got job growth and we didn’t. If you’re part of the MoCo YIMBY echo chamber, now would be a good time to step back, figure out what went wrong, and fix it.

Nice self own though.

Really? I think the primary goals of land use, housing, and transportation policies should be an increase in societal well-being.

I still can’t tell if this person is serious. On the one hand, it sounds really dumb. On the other hand, there are the actual housing, transportation, and land use policies in Montgomery County.

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives hate public transit for the same reasons they tend to hate bikes, bike lanes, reusable bags, thrifted clothing, electric stoves and electric cars.

Your familiarity with conservatives must be a product of MSNBC or the WaPo. I hate public transit personally because it is terrible and generally doesn't work very well within the context of US land use policy.

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Anonymous wrote:Conservatives hate public transit for the same reasons they tend to hate bikes, bike lanes, reusable bags, thrifted clothing, electric stoves and electric cars.

Complete baloney, conservatives tend to be extremely cheap in their personal lives and use all of the above with the exception of electric cars as they are too pricey currently. You don't know any conservatives.

Political conservatives or small C conservatives?

I don't know what the difference is. I work with and am related to conservatives who ride their bikes to work, bring their lunch in a canvas tote, shop at Goodwill, while they have millions in the bank.

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Anonymous wrote:Conservatives hate public transit for the same reasons they tend to hate bikes, bike lanes, reusable bags, thrifted clothing, electric stoves and electric cars.

Complete baloney, conservatives tend to be extremely cheap in their personal lives and use all of the above with the exception of electric cars as they are too pricey currently. You don't know any conservatives.

That's the problem with referring to Republicans as "conservatives". They're not. Republicans hate public transit for the same reasons they tend to hate bikes, bike lanes, reusable bags, thrifted clothing, electric stoves and electric cars.