Anonymous
12/09/2022 02:49
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:From Defector.com:
This is primarily a story of government working against political enemies.
That is the primary invented story. Reality has not lived up to it. The Twitter Files are turning out to be a bigger bellyflop than the Durham investigation.
Before you said Twitter wasn't biased and was following their policies. It was FBI that told them to be on the lookout for hacked materials and disinformation.
Even though they had the laptop for a year and knew it wasn't hacked.
So was Twitter censoring it due to their own bias, or because of FBI advice?
Taibbi's tweets are a bit hard to follow but this part is reasonably clear:
No government involvement in the laptop story. I.E. the story was not blocked due to FBI advice.
The decision was made by Twitter employees.
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:From Defector.com:
This is primarily a story of government working against political enemies.
That is the primary invented story. Reality has not lived up to it. The Twitter Files are turning out to be a bigger bellyflop than the Durham investigation.
Before you said Twitter wasn't biased and was following their policies. It was FBI that told them to be on the lookout for hacked materials and disinformation.
Even though they had the laptop for a year and knew it wasn't hacked.
So was Twitter censoring it due to their own bias, or because of FBI advice?
Taibbi's tweets are a bit hard to follow but this part is reasonably clear:
No government involvement in the laptop story. I.E. the story was not blocked due to FBI advice.
The decision was made by Twitter employees.
Twitter's Roth gave an affidavit to the FEC that the FBI had notified him that hacked material could be coming close to the election, and that they had mentioned Hunter was a possibility.
https://www.fec.gov/files/legal/murs/7827/7827_08.pdf
Anonymous
12/09/2022 00:11
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So now "#TwitterFiles2" is trending, with Bari Weiss breathlessly posting a thread about "OMG, WE DISCOVERED A SECRET BLACKLIST!!!!1!"
While the rest of us are "yawn, that's the shadowbans, the world has known about that for a long time already."
Yet more proof Twitter was taken over by clueless noobs.
Bari Weiss isn’t exactly an intellectual heavyweight.
Well, she’s doing quite well for herself and is providing a great service to the Nation.
Anonymous
12/08/2022 22:17
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:So now "#TwitterFiles2" is trending, with Bari Weiss breathlessly posting a thread about "OMG, WE DISCOVERED A SECRET BLACKLIST!!!!1!"
While the rest of us are "yawn, that's the shadowbans, the world has known about that for a long time already."
Yet more proof Twitter was taken over by clueless noobs.
Bari Weiss isn’t exactly an intellectual heavyweight.
Anonymous
12/08/2022 20:48
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
The way this is being released is so ham handed—like a GenX person struggling with technology. Although, I think BWeiss is younger than that.
That said, based on the audience’s votes, Taibbi and Douglas Murray triumphed easily over Malcolm Gladwell and Michelle Goldberg at the Munk debate on “mainstream media.”
That said, based on the audience’s votes, Taibbi and Douglas Murray triumphed easily over Malcolm Gladwell and Michelle Goldberg at the Munk debate on “mainstream media.”
Anonymous
12/08/2022 20:40
Subject: The Twitter Files
So now "#TwitterFiles2" is trending, with Bari Weiss breathlessly posting a thread about "OMG, WE DISCOVERED A SECRET BLACKLIST!!!!1!"
While the rest of us are "yawn, that's the shadowbans, the world has known about that for a long time already."
Yet more proof Twitter was taken over by clueless noobs.
While the rest of us are "yawn, that's the shadowbans, the world has known about that for a long time already."
Yet more proof Twitter was taken over by clueless noobs.
Anonymous
12/08/2022 20:11
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:From Defector.com:
This is primarily a story of government working against political enemies.
That is the primary invented story. Reality has not lived up to it. The Twitter Files are turning out to be a bigger bellyflop than the Durham investigation.
Before you said Twitter wasn't biased and was following their policies. It was FBI that told them to be on the lookout for hacked materials and disinformation.
Even though they had the laptop for a year and knew it wasn't hacked.
So was Twitter censoring it due to their own bias, or because of FBI advice?
In addition to the fact that even Taibbi specially says the FBI had no involvement here, as far I can tell, it is still very much an open question as to whether this laptop has hacked materials on it. The news analyses have concluded that some of the material is authentic, but that doesn't mean it wasn't retrieved in a hack and then put on the laptop. And those same analyses have shown that some of the material was definitely put on there after the fact.
Some of the material on the laptop is authentic, but some is fake - and poor fakes at that. The laptop story always was a Trump campaign gimmick, it was intended to be an October surprise, was never meant to live on this long.
Anonymous
12/08/2022 20:09
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:From Defector.com:
This is primarily a story of government working against political enemies.
That is the primary invented story. Reality has not lived up to it. The Twitter Files are turning out to be a bigger bellyflop than the Durham investigation.
Before you said Twitter wasn't biased and was following their policies. It was FBI that told them to be on the lookout for hacked materials and disinformation.
Even though they had the laptop for a year and knew it wasn't hacked.
So was Twitter censoring it due to their own bias, or because of FBI advice?
In addition to the fact that even Taibbi specially says the FBI had no involvement here, as far I can tell, it is still very much an open question as to whether this laptop has hacked materials on it. The news analyses have concluded that some of the material is authentic, but that doesn't mean it wasn't retrieved in a hack and then put on the laptop. And those same analyses have shown that some of the material was definitely put on there after the fact.
But surely we know everyone who had access to the laptop?
Anonymous
12/08/2022 16:49
Subject: The Twitter Files
Taibbi has quite a reputation. This will only add to it.
Anonymous
12/08/2022 16:44
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:From Defector.com:
This is primarily a story of government working against political enemies.
That is the primary invented story. Reality has not lived up to it. The Twitter Files are turning out to be a bigger bellyflop than the Durham investigation.
Before you said Twitter wasn't biased and was following their policies. It was FBI that told them to be on the lookout for hacked materials and disinformation.
Even though they had the laptop for a year and knew it wasn't hacked.
So was Twitter censoring it due to their own bias, or because of FBI advice?
In addition to the fact that even Taibbi specially says the FBI had no involvement here, as far I can tell, it is still very much an open question as to whether this laptop has hacked materials on it. The news analyses have concluded that some of the material is authentic, but that doesn't mean it wasn't retrieved in a hack and then put on the laptop. And those same analyses have shown that some of the material was definitely put on there after the fact.
jsteele
12/08/2022 15:48
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:From Defector.com:
This is primarily a story of government working against political enemies.
That is the primary invented story. Reality has not lived up to it. The Twitter Files are turning out to be a bigger bellyflop than the Durham investigation.
Before you said Twitter wasn't biased and was following their policies. It was FBI that told them to be on the lookout for hacked materials and disinformation.
Even though they had the laptop for a year and knew it wasn't hacked.
So was Twitter censoring it due to their own bias, or because of FBI advice?
Taibbi's tweets are a bit hard to follow but this part is reasonably clear:
No government involvement in the laptop story. I.E. the story was not blocked due to FBI advice.
The decision was made by Twitter employees.
Anonymous
12/08/2022 15:33
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:From Defector.com:
This is primarily a story of government working against political enemies.
That is the primary invented story. Reality has not lived up to it. The Twitter Files are turning out to be a bigger bellyflop than the Durham investigation.
Before you said Twitter wasn't biased and was following their policies. It was FBI that told them to be on the lookout for hacked materials and disinformation.
Even though they had the laptop for a year and knew it wasn't hacked.
So was Twitter censoring it due to their own bias, or because of FBI advice?
Anonymous
Anonymous
12/08/2022 13:52
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:From Defector.com:
This is primarily a story of government working against political enemies.
That is the primary invented story. Reality has not lived up to it. The Twitter Files are turning out to be a bigger bellyflop than the Durham investigation.
That’s not totally true. We now know, though with no specifics, that the Trump White House was pressuring people to change things. It just didn’t turn out to be what Elon promised it to be.
Anonymous
12/08/2022 00:08
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:From Defector.com:
This is primarily a story of government working against political enemies.
Yes, it does appear that the Trump White House was pressuring Twitter to target Trump’s political enemies, but that’s not the spin Musk told Taibbi to put on it, so Taibbi is trying (but failing) to bury it.