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Anonymous wrote:I’m not locking down or anything for this wave. Done.

I hope this decision isn’t made for you by microbes. Good luck.

I think that you are letting “microbes” have too much control over your life.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not locking down or anything for this wave. Done.

I hope this decision isn’t made for you by microbes. Good luck.

You should just go ahead and lock down forever. Can't be too safe.

I am so glad I got my colonoscopy and a minor surgery done this month. Who know what the next COVID surge will look like. I am thankful for all the medical professionals being there for us. I will do my part and get another booster shot if they recommend them.

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Anonymous wrote:Man lots of deluded people here. Two months ago hospitals around me were collapsing under the weight of "mild" omicron cases.

Lots of people who died were 30 thru 60. LOTS!

Indeed, insane how quickly memory fades. We pretty much didn't have hospitals available in my area. Military helping out in hospitals. People dying for non-covid related reasons because they couldn't get care.
BA2 is causing a major increase in hospitalization in the elderly and under 5s again in the UK. Record hospitalizations for the elderly since vaccines became available - even though they are much more vaxxed and boosted than we are. If BA2 takes off here, and it looks like it will, we are looking at a more deadly wave than BA1 due to the longer interval since the booster and vaccinations.

Where the heck did this happen??

My husband works at a DMV hospital, and his group covers a bunch of them. They were not overwhelmed. There was some very, very limited delays of some non emergency cases, out of an abundance of caution and for maybe 2 weeks. There were some some additional covid patients in ICUs, but it was not overwhelming. This was allegedly happening in some places, but not throughout the DMV hospitals-- there is a link between high vaccination rates in adults and lower hospital admissions (bc the vaccines largely prevent severe disease in most cases'). The demographics in Michigan and their hospitals, for example, are different.

+1

People kept predicting the wave of hospitalizations, and deaths, to follow the huge wave of positive cases in the region in late December and early January. It never happened. There was an uptick in emergency room activity and ICU bed use, but it was not linked to Covid cases and matches the waves that happen every year around that time (poor road conditions, holiday travel, flu and RSV, domestic violence cycles that sadly increase around holidays and when children are home from school). But we did not see the a Covid-caused crisis, despite the incredible volume of positive cases, which was likely undercounted due to the region doing a great job in making at home rapid tests easily and freely available starting in mid-December.

Unless BA.2 is more dangerous for vaccinated people, or more dangerous overall, I don't see why we'd expect any different this time. Get vaccinated. If you did not get boosted already, now is a great time to do it! My DH and I wound up getting boosted right before the winter surge and he works in person and we have a child in in-person school where there were a ton of positives. And we traveled. My DC and I both came down with a terrible cold around Christmas but none of us ever got Covid. Vaccines still work, even if they aren't 100%.

But beyond vaccination and maybe increased indoor masking (with better quality masks) when the surge hits, I don't see that any other response is needed. Treat it like the flu -- I take steps to avoid getting the flu every year, and succeed. But I don't lock myself or my family members in a bunker or avoid normal social interactions with people who don't have flu symptoms. I get my flu vaccine, wash my hands, and stay home if I notice any symptoms. I'm going to keep doing that.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not locking down or anything for this wave. Done.

I hope this decision isn’t made for you by microbes. Good luck.

Not worried, but if you want to perpetuate this because you are too lazy to go back to the office, then go right ahead.

Anonymous wrote:I’m not locking down or anything for this wave. Done.

I hope this decision isn’t made for you by microbes. Good luck.

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Anonymous wrote:Man lots of deluded people here. Two months ago hospitals around me were collapsing under the weight of "mild" omicron cases.

Lots of people who died were 30 thru 60. LOTS!

How many were vaccinated and boosted? Please provide the number.

LOL that you think the results of boosters emphasized three months ago will be relevant to what happens another month from now.

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Anonymous wrote:Man lots of deluded people here. Two months ago hospitals around me were collapsing under the weight of "mild" omicron cases.

Lots of people who died were 30 thru 60. LOTS!

Indeed, insane how quickly memory fades. We pretty much didn't have hospitals available in my area. Military helping out in hospitals. People dying for non-covid related reasons because they couldn't get care.
BA2 is causing a major increase in hospitalization in the elderly and under 5s again in the UK. Record hospitalizations for the elderly since vaccines became available - even though they are much more vaxxed and boosted than we are. If BA2 takes off here, and it looks like it will, we are looking at a more deadly wave than BA1 due to the longer interval since the booster and vaccinations.

Where the heck did this happen??

My husband works at a DMV hospital, and his group covers a bunch of them. They were not overwhelmed. There was some very, very limited delays of some non emergency cases, out of an abundance of caution and for maybe 2 weeks. There were some some additional covid patients in ICUs, but it was not overwhelming. This was allegedly happening in some places, but not throughout the DMV hospitals-- there is a link between high vaccination rates in adults and lower hospital admissions (bc the vaccines largely prevent severe disease in most cases'). The demographics in Michigan and their hospitals, for example, are different.

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Anonymous wrote:Man lots of deluded people here. Two months ago hospitals around me were collapsing under the weight of "mild" omicron cases.

Lots of people who died were 30 thru 60. LOTS!

Indeed, insane how quickly memory fades. We pretty much didn't have hospitals available in my area. Military helping out in hospitals. People dying for non-covid related reasons because they couldn't get care.
BA2 is causing a major increase in hospitalization in the elderly and under 5s again in the UK. Record hospitalizations for the elderly since vaccines became available - even though they are much more vaxxed and boosted than we are. If BA2 takes off here, and it looks like it will, we are looking at a more deadly wave than BA1 due to the longer interval since the booster and vaccinations.

Or maybe consider that we might do better considering how many people have an immunity boost from catch Omicron OG which provides good protection against BA2.

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Anonymous wrote:Not worried. We had omicron. Thankfully it was nothing for our family. My youngest was much more sick from her last cold.

You were lucky. Maybe. You do not know the long term effects that can surface in the future. Studies show you have been affected but may not have symptoms yet.

Long Covid affects the vaccinated too so it’s not just a cold and it’s irresponsible to compare Covid to a cold. It travels to the brain unlike other viruses. It is not a joke.

And not everyone can be vaccinated yet so it would be appreciated if we could still treat this as a serious virus.

Risk is low right now (we think) but if it surges again, I hope people will be responsible. Western Europe is having problems again so we may be next.

Long COVID isn't a thing anymore than long cold or long flu long stubbed toe. Why can't you just move on already.

The AMA disagrees with you. https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-long-covid

DP. Relatively few people disagree that long Covid exists. But the controlled studies show the lingering symptoms happen at a similar frequency to other respiratory infections, while also suggesting a strong psychosomatic component.

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Anonymous wrote:Man lots of deluded people here. Two months ago hospitals around me were collapsing under the weight of "mild" omicron cases.

Lots of people who died were 30 thru 60. LOTS!

Indeed, insane how quickly memory fades. We pretty much didn't have hospitals available in my area. Military helping out in hospitals. People dying for non-covid related reasons because they couldn't get care.
BA2 is causing a major increase in hospitalization in the elderly and under 5s again in the UK. Record hospitalizations for the elderly since vaccines became available - even though they are much more vaxxed and boosted than we are. If BA2 takes off here, and it looks like it will, we are looking at a more deadly wave than BA1 due to the longer interval since the booster and vaccinations.

Not PP, but this happened in the Detroit area.

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Anonymous wrote:Man lots of deluded people here. Two months ago hospitals around me were collapsing under the weight of "mild" omicron cases.

Lots of people who died were 30 thru 60. LOTS!

Indeed, insane how quickly memory fades. We pretty much didn't have hospitals available in my area. Military helping out in hospitals. People dying for non-covid related reasons because they couldn't get care.
BA2 is causing a major increase in hospitalization in the elderly and under 5s again in the UK. Record hospitalizations for the elderly since vaccines became available - even though they are much more vaxxed and boosted than we are. If BA2 takes off here, and it looks like it will, we are looking at a more deadly wave than BA1 due to the longer interval since the booster and vaccinations.

Where the heck did this happen??

Anonymous wrote:Man lots of deluded people here. Two months ago hospitals around me were collapsing under the weight of "mild" omicron cases.

Lots of people who died were 30 thru 60. LOTS!

Indeed, insane how quickly memory fades. We pretty much didn't have hospitals available in my area. Military helping out in hospitals. People dying for non-covid related reasons because they couldn't get care.
BA2 is causing a major increase in hospitalization in the elderly and under 5s again in the UK. Record hospitalizations for the elderly since vaccines became available - even though they are much more vaxxed and boosted than we are. If BA2 takes off here, and it looks like it will, we are looking at a more deadly wave than BA1 due to the longer interval since the booster and vaccinations.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not worried. We had omicron. Thankfully it was nothing for our family. My youngest was much more sick from her last cold.

You were lucky. Maybe. You do not know the long term effects that can surface in the future. Studies show you have been affected but may not have symptoms yet.

Long Covid affects the vaccinated too so it’s not just a cold and it’s irresponsible to compare Covid to a cold. It travels to the brain unlike other viruses. It is not a joke.

And not everyone can be vaccinated yet so it would be appreciated if we could still treat this as a serious virus.

Risk is low right now (we think) but if it surges again, I hope people will be responsible. Western Europe is having problems again so we may be next.

Long COVID isn't a thing anymore than long cold or long flu long stubbed toe. Why can't you just move on already.

The AMA disagrees with you. https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/what-doctors-wish-patients-knew-about-long-covid

Reasonable doctor minds differ on the topic:

https://www.statnews.com/2022/02/14/controlled-studies-ease-worries-widespread-long-covid-kids/

I tend to lean with the view I cite here.

I’m not locking down or anything for this wave. Done.