Anonymous
11/03/2021 19:56
Subject: What’s going on with the two bills?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The current recon bill cannot pass the House not to mention the Senate. That’s why Pelosi brings back the paid leave and the SALT cap talk reappears.
Paid family leave was in response to Manchin playing games after the framework was agreed upon.
SALT is tied to the prescription price negotiation provision. It's also vital for 2022. The very people who would benefit are the suburban swing voters that swung blue in 2020 and red in 2021. Dems should be touting how theyre bringing back SALT deductions. It's absolutely core and vital.
You don’t get it. The paid family leave and SALT are back because the House Dems in the battleground district got scared and won’t vote for the current bill. Obviously yesterday’s result is a wake up call for them and they won’t risk their political life by passing the recon bill, which might be popular nationwide but not necessarily in their own districts. Manchin already said no to the paid leave and the progressives hate the SALT deduction. In ohter words, Dems are back to Square one.
Do you still believe they can pass the bills this week or even by the end of the month?
I don't think they can pass them ever. But if these House Dems in battleground districts already won't vote for it, what good would putting in more programs their constituents (proxies for VA voters) don't want? Those are the same policies McAuliffe ran on extremely unsuccessfully.
I think that's right. Frankly, I don't see any meaningful legislation coming out of this Congress now.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 19:53
Subject: What’s going on with the two bills?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The current recon bill cannot pass the House not to mention the Senate. That’s why Pelosi brings back the paid leave and the SALT cap talk reappears.
Paid family leave was in response to Manchin playing games after the framework was agreed upon.
SALT is tied to the prescription price negotiation provision. It's also vital for 2022. The very people who would benefit are the suburban swing voters that swung blue in 2020 and red in 2021. Dems should be touting how theyre bringing back SALT deductions. It's absolutely core and vital.
So now Democrats are lowering taxes of the wealthy?
AGAIN, not every homeowner in a high property tax state is wealthy.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 19:40
Subject: What’s going on with the two bills?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The current recon bill cannot pass the House not to mention the Senate. That’s why Pelosi brings back the paid leave and the SALT cap talk reappears.
Paid family leave was in response to Manchin playing games after the framework was agreed upon.
SALT is tied to the prescription price negotiation provision. It's also vital for 2022. The very people who would benefit are the suburban swing voters that swung blue in 2020 and red in 2021. Dems should be touting how theyre bringing back SALT deductions. It's absolutely core and vital.
So now Democrats are lowering taxes of the wealthy?
Anonymous
11/03/2021 19:34
Subject: What’s going on with the two bills?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The current recon bill cannot pass the House not to mention the Senate. That’s why Pelosi brings back the paid leave and the SALT cap talk reappears.
Paid family leave was in response to Manchin playing games after the framework was agreed upon.
SALT is tied to the prescription price negotiation provision. It's also vital for 2022. The very people who would benefit are the suburban swing voters that swung blue in 2020 and red in 2021. Dems should be touting how theyre bringing back SALT deductions. It's absolutely core and vital.
You don’t get it. The paid family leave and SALT are back because the House Dems in the battleground district got scared and won’t vote for the current bill. Obviously yesterday’s result is a wake up call for them and they won’t risk their political life by passing the recon bill, which might be popular nationwide but not necessarily in their own districts. Manchin already said no to the paid leave and the progressives hate the SALT deduction. In ohter words, Dems are back to Square one.
Do you still believe they can pass the bills this week or even by the end of the month?
I don't think they can pass them ever. But if these House Dems in battleground districts already won't vote for it, what good would putting in more programs their constituents (proxies for VA voters) don't want? Those are the same policies McAuliffe ran on extremely unsuccessfully.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 19:31
Subject: What’s going on with the two bills?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The current recon bill cannot pass the House not to mention the Senate. That’s why Pelosi brings back the paid leave and the SALT cap talk reappears.
Paid family leave was in response to Manchin playing games after the framework was agreed upon.
SALT is tied to the prescription price negotiation provision. It's also vital for 2022. The very people who would benefit are the suburban swing voters that swung blue in 2020 and red in 2021. Dems should be touting how theyre bringing back SALT deductions. It's absolutely core and vital.
You don’t get it. The paid family leave and SALT are back because the House Dems in the battleground district got scared and won’t vote for the current bill. Obviously yesterday’s result is a wake up call for them and they won’t risk their political life by passing the recon bill, which might be popular nationwide but not necessarily in their own districts. Manchin already said no to the paid leave and the progressives hate the SALT deduction. In ohter words, Dems are back to Square one.
Do you still believe they can pass the bills this week or even by the end of the month?
Anonymous
11/03/2021 18:42
Subject: What’s going on with the two bills?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The current recon bill cannot pass the House not to mention the Senate. That’s why Pelosi brings back the paid leave and the SALT cap talk reappears.
Paid family leave was in response to Manchin playing games after the framework was agreed upon.
SALT is tied to the prescription price negotiation provision. It's also vital for 2022. The very people who would benefit are the suburban swing voters that swung blue in 2020 and red in 2021. Dems should be touting how theyre bringing back SALT deductions. It's absolutely core and vital.
+1
There are so many single issue independents obsessed with restoring SALT. The only ones who understand are the Reps from NY/NJ.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 18:38
Subject: What’s going on with the two bills?
Anonymous wrote:The current recon bill cannot pass the House not to mention the Senate. That’s why Pelosi brings back the paid leave and the SALT cap talk reappears.
Paid family leave was in response to Manchin playing games after the framework was agreed upon.
SALT is tied to the prescription price negotiation provision. It's also vital for 2022. The very people who would benefit are the suburban swing voters that swung blue in 2020 and red in 2021. Dems should be touting how theyre bringing back SALT deductions. It's absolutely core and vital.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 18:26
Subject: What’s going on with the two bills?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I am wondering what would happen if Youngkin wins next Tuesday. More pressure on the paasage of infrastructure bill or no impact?
Well it should have been passed on Thursday when Biden was in the air. Pelosi and Biden both met directly with the progressives and begged them to let the infrastructure vote through. Nothing.
When Youngkin wins on Tuesday - they can look sad and shocked all they want. Youngkin passed McAuliffe the day after Congress's crap.
Dem voter turnout is down in no small part because the Biden administration has done nothing for us to be excited about!
Inflation at 30 year high. Bungling our own signature infrastructure/social spending bill(s). Gas is insanely high. A supply chain logjam. Their answer to all these problems is that its "transitory." Which is code for, "it'll work itself out."
Sen Mark Warner of VA is pissed and rightfully so
Anonymous
11/03/2021 18:02
Subject: What’s going on with the two bills?
The current recon bill cannot pass the House not to mention the Senate. That’s why Pelosi brings back the paid leave and the SALT cap talk reappears.
Anonymous
Anonymous
11/03/2021 17:49
Subject: What’s going on with the two bills?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Both bills will pass the House. Once the CBO scoring is done, Manchin's concerns will be alleviated and he and Sinema will be on board.
You remind me of the person who posted every 10 minutes 'McAuliffe will win' on the VA Elections thread.
Like it was an affirmative prayer. Didn't work.
Or Kevin Bacon screaming “all is well!” in Animal House. Give it up bro. This country ain’t that progressive. Mofos don’t like huge tax hikes bra.
Anonymous
11/03/2021 17:45
Subject: What’s going on with the two bills?
Anonymous wrote:Both bills will pass the House. Once the CBO scoring is done, Manchin's concerns will be alleviated and he and Sinema will be on board.
You remind me of the person who posted every 10 minutes 'McAuliffe will win' on the VA Elections thread.
Like it was an affirmative prayer. Didn't work.
Anonymous