Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 11:53     Subject: 2023 Girls Recruiting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Loyola Jacksonville Florida and Clemson are all really low ranked schools. And only Loyola and Florida are any good at lacrosse. It’s a complete joke that any serious lax player is going to Clemson. The first ever program at a third or fourth tier school with a widely reviled coach too. M&D is really hurting wit their 23s.


Clemson is going to be at the top of the ACC battling UNC, BC in no time.

Not only is GA really developing some lax talent, who doesn't want to go south for school?



GA… As in Georgia? Clemson isn’t in Georgia. And lots of people don’t want to go South for school. Southern States and Southern schools (with a very few outstanding and well known exceptions) are some of the worst places in the country with much higher rates of poverty, illiteracy, misogyny, racism and about everything else wrong with this country. Plus with fast rising temperatures and sea levels many of those places will be all but uninhabitable in a few decades. I say that as a born and bred Southerner. Basically every other region of the US is a better choice for a young woman to go to college.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 11:36     Subject: 2023 Girls Recruiting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Loyola Jacksonville Florida and Clemson are all really low ranked schools. And only Loyola and Florida are any good at lacrosse. It’s a complete joke that any serious lax player is going to Clemson. The first ever program at a third or fourth tier school with a widely reviled coach too. M&D is really hurting wit their 23s.


Clemson is going to be at the top of the ACC battling UNC, BC in no time.

Not only is GA really developing some lax talent, who doesn't want to go south for school?



Not everyone. That’s the point. Your assume all girls want the most competitive college lacrosse experience. You may think it’s crazy to turn down an offer from a school like Clemson. But if kids prioritize academics and have a chance to use the sport to go to a more competitive academic school, that’s their choice. It may not be what you would do, but it’s right for them. One isn’t a better or smarter choice over the other. Just isn’t.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 11:14     Subject: 2023 Girls Recruiting
Anonymous wrote:Loyola Jacksonville Florida and Clemson are all really low ranked schools. And only Loyola and Florida are any good at lacrosse. It’s a complete joke that any serious lax player is going to Clemson. The first ever program at a third or fourth tier school with a widely reviled coach too. M&D is really hurting wit their 23s.


Clemson is going to be at the top of the ACC battling UNC, BC in no time.

Not only is GA really developing some lax talent, who doesn't want to go south for school?

Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 11:11     Subject: Re:2023 Girls Recruiting
Anonymous wrote:Almost all the girls on CLC go to DMV private schools and were already tracking for high academic colleges. Many of the girls on Hero's go to public schools, come from more modest backgrounds, and were on a different track college wise.

None of the posters on this board know what the offers looks like for the Hero's commits ie tuition assistance. And last time I checked, calculus at Clemson is the same as calculus at Harvard, but costs a lot less.

The glow many on this thread get from their feelings of superiority given their wealth is probably exceeded by the pride of girls who worked hard and parlayed their lacrosse skills into helping their families pay for college.




And girls from families who don’t need / aren’t looking for money are just as proud to use their lax-playing abilities to get into schools they otherwise couldn’t attend. Your argument suggests money is the most important thing. Some families turn down money. Different kids, different situations, different priorities. What it does show (and maybe, just maybe, this is something we can all agree on here) is that it speaks to the incredible opportunity the sport offers kids Of all backgrounds who work hard and have talent.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 10:15     Subject: Re:2023 Girls Recruiting
Anonymous wrote:Ummm there are definitely coaches at Capital who encourage players to pay them for extra training and then have a hand in team selection. Fact.


Agree. Personal experience.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 10:10     Subject: Re:2023 Girls Recruiting
Almost all the girls on CLC go to DMV private schools and were already tracking for high academic colleges. Many of the girls on Hero's go to public schools, come from more modest backgrounds, and were on a different track college wise.

None of the posters on this board know what the offers looks like for the Hero's commits ie tuition assistance. And last time I checked, calculus at Clemson is the same as calculus at Harvard, but costs a lot less.

The glow many on this thread get from their feelings of superiority given their wealth is probably exceeded by the pride of girls who worked hard and parlayed their lacrosse skills into helping their families pay for college.


Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 21:51     Subject: Re:2023 Girls Recruiting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone keeps saying CLC did far better than all MD clubs for 23. Maybe not working off the same list, but those clubs have done just as well (and with a few more to traditional lax powerhouse schools - so maybe “better” depending on criteria). They may just not promote it as much, especially based on verbals but if you look at those teams (not club) IG accounts it looks really good.

Ok, we get it CLC is now proclaimed superior to Pride; I think a bridge too far to say as good as or better than these traditional MD clubs. But agree with PP the club personalities are very different - maybe driven by different mindset in DMV than some of the traditional MD clubs.


It’s all there in color on Instagram as you say and inarguable that Capital did better than both M&D and Heros this year. M&D actually had had a very poor showing this year. Very poor. And Heros wasn’t great either.


Didn’t Hero’s have:

Princeton
Yale
Notre Dame
Duke

(Among many other schools)

= not great??

Hmmm


No. You cherry picked - those 4 are the only great schools. There are 2 other good lacrosse programs - Loyola and Florida - and the rest of the 23 Heros team is going to a few mediocre and even worse schools. It’s obvious these girls settled for schools because they want to play lacrosse no matter what, not play for a great program or a get great education.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 21:46     Subject: 2023 Girls Recruiting
Anonymous wrote:I’d argue the MD players are committed to much better lax programs. Capital players are mostly good academic schools but not great lax programs for the most part.


That may be true, but don’t assume Cap 23s only had interest from strong academic schools. The fact so many committed the first three weeks of September should tell you many were flooded with offers and official invite requests from a wide range of schools, including top 20 lax programs — which many turned down in favor of better academic options.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 21:39     Subject: 2023 Girls Recruiting
Loyola Jacksonville Florida and Clemson are all really low ranked schools. And only Loyola and Florida are any good at lacrosse. It’s a complete joke that any serious lax player is going to Clemson. The first ever program at a third or fourth tier school with a widely reviled coach too. M&D is really hurting wit their 23s.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 20:29     Subject: 2023 Girls Recruiting
I’d argue the MD players are committed to much better lax programs. Capital players are mostly good academic schools but not great lax programs for the most part.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 20:07     Subject: Re:2023 Girls Recruiting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone keeps saying CLC did far better than all MD clubs for 23. Maybe not working off the same list, but those clubs have done just as well (and with a few more to traditional lax powerhouse schools - so maybe “better” depending on criteria). They may just not promote it as much, especially based on verbals but if you look at those teams (not club) IG accounts it looks really good.

Ok, we get it CLC is now proclaimed superior to Pride; I think a bridge too far to say as good as or better than these traditional MD clubs. But agree with PP the club personalities are very different - maybe driven by different mindset in DMV than some of the traditional MD clubs.


It’s all there in color on Instagram as you say and inarguable that Capital did better than both M&D and Heros this year. M&D actually had had a very poor showing this year. Very poor. And Heros wasn’t great either.


Didn’t Hero’s have:

Princeton
Yale
Notre Dame
Duke

(Among many other schools)

= not great??

Hmmm


Loyola, Florida (x2), Jacksonville (x2), Clemson (x3).

All but 1 member of the Green team is committed. But yea.... terrible....
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 20:05     Subject: Re:2023 Girls Recruiting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My daughter played for one of the top MD programs as well and one thing I would say that takes away from politics is that there was ZERO double dipping by the coaches. NEVER would the coach or the program director expect, ask, offer, etc... additional training to any players for extra money. It just was not done. Taking additional money from a parent by the coach who controls playing time and/or the director and coach who influence recruiting sets up potential expectations that can be very damaging.



This is very true. I was shocked how generous coaches/club was with time and training opportunities compared to experience in DMV.


Hilarious. They do it just as often.

That's why all of those Hero's kids went to GCS.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 20:00     Subject: 2023 Girls Recruiting
Not true. Not a fact.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 19:50     Subject: Re:2023 Girls Recruiting
Anonymous wrote:My daughter played for one of the top MD programs as well and one thing I would say that takes away from politics is that there was ZERO double dipping by the coaches. NEVER would the coach or the program director expect, ask, offer, etc... additional training to any players for extra money. It just was not done. Taking additional money from a parent by the coach who controls playing time and/or the director and coach who influence recruiting sets up potential expectations that can be very damaging.



This is very true. I was shocked how generous coaches/club was with time and training opportunities compared to experience in DMV.
Anonymous
Post 12/09/2021 19:48     Subject: Re:2023 Girls Recruiting
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Someone keeps saying CLC did far better than all MD clubs for 23. Maybe not working off the same list, but those clubs have done just as well (and with a few more to traditional lax powerhouse schools - so maybe “better” depending on criteria). They may just not promote it as much, especially based on verbals but if you look at those teams (not club) IG accounts it looks really good.

Ok, we get it CLC is now proclaimed superior to Pride; I think a bridge too far to say as good as or better than these traditional MD clubs. But agree with PP the club personalities are very different - maybe driven by different mindset in DMV than some of the traditional MD clubs.


It’s all there in color on Instagram as you say and inarguable that Capital did better than both M&D and Heros this year. M&D actually had had a very poor showing this year. Very poor. And Heros wasn’t great either.


Didn’t Hero’s have:

Princeton
Yale
Notre Dame
Duke

(Among many other schools)

= not great??

Hmmm