Anonymous
Post 09/05/2022 16:43     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Not saying this is this case here but I don’t trust any way Jen presents things because of her continued patterns (and knowing some narcissists in real life who do this very thing where I can’t trust anything they say even if it ends up being true for once)

Narcissists have a pattern of making up stories and narratives and adding spin to get something to look the way they want it to look. They also go out of their way to exaggerate and elongate details to amp up everything to misdirect.

In this case maybe Remy once mentioned while watching tv three years ago it would be cool to study abroad just in passing and never brought it up again. She took Spanish and then Jen is taking those two things and brought up the idea to Remy and she went with it. This came about this summer and that’s why it’s happening so last minute.

Or Jens narrative is true. Who can really tell - is the point.

Anonymous
Post 09/05/2022 14:29     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Either way, I just don't buy that this is a carefully thought out move designed strictly for Remy's benefit


100%. Why would Remy want to leave her new car and cushy life for a challenging time on the heels of family implosion?

Jen has not so subtly implied that Remy has been a challenge from the start. And Jen expects people to act and react as she sees fit, and Remy is not here for this. I have an autistic kid and while she is high functioning, it is tough. They have problems expressing affection, and same age, same sex peer relations are incredibly difficult. Executive functioning and emotional regulation are big time challenges. Remy's host family will be required to watch her very closely, probably unlike other, more independent kids.

Are we betting that Jen will be in Spain for Christmas?
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2022 14:04     Subject: Re:Jen Hatmaker
Living abroad can be a great adventure for some kids. I find it concerning that based on comments from you guys ( I haven't followed this for too long), Jen has a history of saying that her daughter may have issues ( who wouldn't growing up in the limelight if the Hatmakers?) ..
If a kid has any kind of challenges socially, emotionally, or schoolwise, not to mention has just lived through a disastrous family implosion the last two years, I would tend to think this is Ill timed.
I would think that this is the worst possible time to send your kid off to process all these things on her own. It really feels like someone has decided to complete the metamorphis from Christian mom blogger to I'm not sure what. 50-ish cool kid?
That being said, we can pray that maybe it somehow helps Remy to get away from the drama. Maybe her family in Spain will be wise and empathetic and the best thing that could have happened. Either way, I just don't buy that this is a carefully thought out move designed strictly for Remy's benefit!
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2022 13:57     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great parenting move here with Remi. For real. Credit where credit is due. It sounds like Jen is helping to instill in her youngest a true sense of independence and overcoming obstacles. She’s going to have a magical time.


The desire has to come from the kid. The parent has to provide the $$$$ to make it possible.


We’ve been overtaken by the Hatmaker marketing team. This is amazing you guys. Remi is a go-getter. She had big dreams to live in Spain while in high school. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with Jen being a lazy parent who can’t stand being around her daughter. Not at all. Nope. Just amazing parenting happening.


I am the PP whom you quoted. It has nothing to do with parenting. I was an exchange student. I wanted to go, but it was expensive and my parents had to pay up. You cannot force a kid to be an exchange student. You can possibly force them to go to a boarding school, but not to live in a foreign country.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2022 13:29     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Great parenting move here with Remi. For real. Credit where credit is due. It sounds like Jen is helping to instill in her youngest a true sense of independence and overcoming obstacles. She’s going to have a magical time.


The desire has to come from the kid. The parent has to provide the $$$$ to make it possible.


We’ve been overtaken by the Hatmaker marketing team. This is amazing you guys. Remi is a go-getter. She had big dreams to live in Spain while in high school. This has absolutely NOTHING to do with Jen being a lazy parent who can’t stand being around her daughter. Not at all. Nope. Just amazing parenting happening.
Anonymous
Post 09/05/2022 13:26     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Great parenting move here with Remi. For real. Credit where credit is due. It sounds like Jen is helping to instill in her youngest a true sense of independence and overcoming obstacles. She’s going to have a magical time.


Way to spin it.
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2022 20:33     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Oof that’s true. People who think the US is racism central have apparently never been to …. the rest of the world .

Jen must not have sought out advice from Kristen, who had a lengthy post about the racial slurs her boys heard all over Italy
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2022 18:52     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Remy may not want to come home- Spain is awesome ! Will she be in Barcelona ?


I spent a semester abroad in Spain and my best friend who did it with me was Ethiopian. She got really sick of all the attention she got for her skin color and people often yelled "cafe con leche" when they saw us (coffee and milk). So many men made the moves on her. She was gorgeous too, but they commented a lot on how exotic she was and that they had never been with a black woman. Perhaps things have changed, that was the 90s, but they were really direct about their obsession with the fact she was black.


Found this. She will need to be prepared. The issues still exist and it just was way louder and more obnoxious there. People didn't censor what they said about her being black.

https://sojournies.com/black-in-spain/
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2022 18:49     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:Remy may not want to come home- Spain is awesome ! Will she be in Barcelona ?


I spent a semester abroad in Spain and my best friend who did it with me was Ethiopian. She got really sick of all the attention she got for her skin color and people often yelled "cafe con leche" when they saw us (coffee and milk). So many men made the moves on her. She was gorgeous too, but they commented a lot on how exotic she was and that they had never been with a black woman. Perhaps things have changed, that was the 90s, but they were really direct about their obsession with the fact she was black.
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2022 17:29     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:A year is such a long time at that age.

I was an exchange student at 16 and it’s fine. I was home sick and then I adjusted.
Remy’s got this.
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2022 17:10     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
A year is such a long time at that age.
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2022 16:12     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow she actually posted something nice about Remy, and a picture of she and Remy holding hands and cuddling.








Don't be fooled....wait for it...I'm sure she posted that in prep of something that's just around the corner regarding Remy.

Sincerely,

The same person who posted all the bullet points on the Hatmaker's




She’d go to any lengths to get the last kid out of the house because need I remind you she “just cannot”. “Done being a parent”
Happy for Remy but truly concerned about her mental state being abroad for an entire school year.

I’m waiting for it. As soon as I saw that post, I knew the next “I just cannot” post is just around the corner.
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2022 15:38     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
Remy may not want to come home- Spain is awesome ! Will she be in Barcelona ?
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2022 15:37     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
I lived abroad as a college student and it was o e if the best times of my life and education . But you have to have the ability to push through tough times and homesickness, not to mention a big language barrier. I hope Remy finds lots of friends and bonds with her host family . It’s not going to be easy. And I hope Jen doesn’t interfere with the whole process of assimilating
Anonymous
Post 09/04/2022 15:33     Subject: Jen Hatmaker
So happy for Remy but I hope she can handle it. I hope her host family is equipped to deal with her quirks.