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Post 05/24/2022 14:48     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care


Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?

DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.


I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.


You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?


Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.

Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.


If Trump said he didn't care how many Black and Hispanic babies were aborted, many men and women would be using his words as an example of racism. ..but I think you know that.


Well for one, babies are not aborted,’white, black, or otherwise.


Yes, they are aborted. You can also use the words suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc.


Embryos and fetuses are suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. when the women carrying them decide they do not want to be pregnant, as is their right (for now).

Babies are separate beings not embedded in another human being's body, and therefore not a part of this discussion at all.


You are welcome to minimize what occurs, so that the process is more palatable to think about. When women become pregnant, there is a growing baby inside.


What are you 7 years old? Don't take something messy and complicated and dangerous and extremely personal and use for your childish fantasy land.


Whether you are pro abortion or opposed, the only people living in fantasyland are those who try to deny that a baby is growing and developing inside its mother.


You thinking you are involved in this issue concerning my daughter's uterus
is fantasyland. This does not and will not concern you.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2022 14:44     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care


Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?

DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.


I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.


You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?


Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.

Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.


If Trump said he didn't care how many Black and Hispanic babies were aborted, many men and women would be using his words as an example of racism. ..but I think you know that.


Well for one, babies are not aborted,’white, black, or otherwise.


Yes, they are aborted. You can also use the words suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc.


Embryos and fetuses are suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. when the women carrying them decide they do not want to be pregnant, as is their right (for now).

Babies are separate beings not embedded in another human being's body, and therefore not a part of this discussion at all.


You are welcome to minimize what occurs, so that the process is more palatable to think about. When women become pregnant, there is a growing baby inside.


What are you 7 years old? Don't take something messy and complicated and dangerous and extremely personal and use for your childish fantasy land.


Whether you are pro abortion or opposed, the only people living in fantasyland are those who try to deny that a baby is growing and developing inside its mother.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2022 14:39     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care


Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?

DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.


I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.


You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?


Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.

Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.


If Trump said he didn't care how many Black and Hispanic babies were aborted, many men and women would be using his words as an example of racism. ..but I think you know that.


Well for one, babies are not aborted,’white, black, or otherwise.


Yes, they are aborted. You can also use the words suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc.


Embryos and fetuses are suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. when the women carrying them decide they do not want to be pregnant, as is their right (for now).

Babies are separate beings not embedded in another human being's body, and therefore not a part of this discussion at all.


Depends on your definition of ‘is’ is, amirite? Is a thing halfway out of a womb a baby or a fetus at that point?



How many weeks along is it? Was the zygote that washed out of your uterus during your menstrual cycle a baby?


That is part of the s Ole of the question. The definition varies depends on who is answering the question just like gender. Pro-choice should also apply to medical staff. OB/GYNs should not be forced to perform abortions if it goes against their beliefs, and patients should know this upfront about their doctors/nurse.


No - the question is about women's liberty. For their bodies and medical care.


There is blood on people’s hand no matter what the decision is.


Dripping in blood since Roe vs Wade.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2022 14:34     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care


Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?

DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.


I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.


You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?


Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.

Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.


If Trump said he didn't care how many Black and Hispanic babies were aborted, many men and women would be using his words as an example of racism. ..but I think you know that.


Well for one, babies are not aborted,’white, black, or otherwise.


Yes, they are aborted. You can also use the words suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc.


Embryos and fetuses are suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. when the women carrying them decide they do not want to be pregnant, as is their right (for now).

Babies are separate beings not embedded in another human being's body, and therefore not a part of this discussion at all.


Depends on your definition of ‘is’ is, amirite? Is a thing halfway out of a womb a baby or a fetus at that point?

The religious extremists that now run the GOP and the religious tribunal that we used to call the Supreme Court are banning abortion at all points and for any and all reasons. You can quit with your sad little red herring; women will die. Know that this blood is on your hands.


Exactly.



The Court itself is not banning abortion, but it appears that it would permit states to ban abortion. All in the name of democracy, of course. But what the Court appears to be saying is that there are no Constitutional limits on state abortion laws. In another words, under the US Constitution, a state could force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, even in case of rape or life of mother. Whether a state would do so is not relevant. No Constitutional limits, apparently. And we actually know that several states are considering such laws. So, the Court apparently is saying that a form of slavery is okay under our Constitution.


This is exactly what they’re saying. Women will be enslaved to the religious beliefs of crazy extremists. And, at least in the version Alito leaked because he was so proud of it, women can’t have rights because we didn’t always have rights.

I wonder if Clarence Thomas understands what his colleagues think of him or if he’s just happy to be a part of the leopards eating faces movement and thinks it won’t affect him.


The odd thing is that by the text of Alito's majority draft, SCOTUS can easily overturn Loving and invalidate Thomas' marriage. The right to marry other races was NOT legal prior to Loving and the language of Alito's draft says that citizens are not entitled to that right because it wasn't originally a right. Blacks had no right to marry whites.


That is as ridiculous as overturning Roe.
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Post 05/24/2022 14:28     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care


Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?

DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.


I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.


You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?


Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.

Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.


If Trump said he didn't care how many Black and Hispanic babies were aborted, many men and women would be using his words as an example of racism. ..but I think you know that.


Well for one, babies are not aborted,’white, black, or otherwise.


Yes, they are aborted. You can also use the words suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc.


Embryos and fetuses are suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. when the women carrying them decide they do not want to be pregnant, as is their right (for now).

Babies are separate beings not embedded in another human being's body, and therefore not a part of this discussion at all.


Depends on your definition of ‘is’ is, amirite? Is a thing halfway out of a womb a baby or a fetus at that point?

The religious extremists that now run the GOP and the religious tribunal that we used to call the Supreme Court are banning abortion at all points and for any and all reasons. You can quit with your sad little red herring; women will die. Know that this blood is on your hands.


Exactly.



The Court itself is not banning abortion, but it appears that it would permit states to ban abortion. All in the name of democracy, of course. But what the Court appears to be saying is that there are no Constitutional limits on state abortion laws. In another words, under the US Constitution, a state could force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, even in case of rape or life of mother. Whether a state would do so is not relevant. No Constitutional limits, apparently. And we actually know that several states are considering such laws. So, the Court apparently is saying that a form of slavery is okay under our Constitution.


This is exactly what they’re saying. Women will be enslaved to the religious beliefs of crazy extremists. And, at least in the version Alito leaked because he was so proud of it, women can’t have rights because we didn’t always have rights.

I wonder if Clarence Thomas understands what his colleagues think of him or if he’s just happy to be a part of the leopards eating faces movement and thinks it won’t affect him.


The odd thing is that by the text of Alito's majority draft, SCOTUS can easily overturn Loving and invalidate Thomas' marriage. The right to marry other races was NOT legal prior to Loving and the language of Alito's draft says that citizens are not entitled to that right because it wasn't originally a right. Blacks had no right to marry whites.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2022 14:18     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care


Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?

DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.


I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.


You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?


Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.

Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.


If Trump said he didn't care how many Black and Hispanic babies were aborted, many men and women would be using his words as an example of racism. ..but I think you know that.


Well for one, babies are not aborted,’white, black, or otherwise.


Yes, they are aborted. You can also use the words suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc.


Embryos and fetuses are suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. when the women carrying them decide they do not want to be pregnant, as is their right (for now).

Babies are separate beings not embedded in another human being's body, and therefore not a part of this discussion at all.


Depends on your definition of ‘is’ is, amirite? Is a thing halfway out of a womb a baby or a fetus at that point?

The religious extremists that now run the GOP and the religious tribunal that we used to call the Supreme Court are banning abortion at all points and for any and all reasons. You can quit with your sad little red herring; women will die. Know that this blood is on your hands.


Exactly.



The Court itself is not banning abortion, but it appears that it would permit states to ban abortion. All in the name of democracy, of course. But what the Court appears to be saying is that there are no Constitutional limits on state abortion laws. In another words, under the US Constitution, a state could force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, even in case of rape or life of mother. Whether a state would do so is not relevant. No Constitutional limits, apparently. And we actually know that several states are considering such laws. So, the Court apparently is saying that a form of slavery is okay under our Constitution.


You were doing fine until you equated protecting unborn children to slavery. Any argument for abortion that does not factor in the life of the unborn child is not going to be meaningful.


Not according to Alito. If you are going to follow originist theory as Alito proposes, the Constitution says that there are no rights until birth. So unborn children do not have any rights, including the right to life.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2022 13:50     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care


Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?

DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.


I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.


You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?


Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.

Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.


If Trump said he didn't care how many Black and Hispanic babies were aborted, many men and women would be using his words as an example of racism. ..but I think you know that.


Well for one, babies are not aborted,’white, black, or otherwise.


Yes, they are aborted. You can also use the words suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc.


Embryos and fetuses are suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. when the women carrying them decide they do not want to be pregnant, as is their right (for now).

Babies are separate beings not embedded in another human being's body, and therefore not a part of this discussion at all.


Depends on your definition of ‘is’ is, amirite? Is a thing halfway out of a womb a baby or a fetus at that point?

The religious extremists that now run the GOP and the religious tribunal that we used to call the Supreme Court are banning abortion at all points and for any and all reasons. You can quit with your sad little red herring; women will die. Know that this blood is on your hands.


Exactly.



The Court itself is not banning abortion, but it appears that it would permit states to ban abortion. All in the name of democracy, of course. But what the Court appears to be saying is that there are no Constitutional limits on state abortion laws. In another words, under the US Constitution, a state could force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, even in case of rape or life of mother. Whether a state would do so is not relevant. No Constitutional limits, apparently. And we actually know that several states are considering such laws. So, the Court apparently is saying that a form of slavery is okay under our Constitution.


You were doing fine until you equated protecting unborn children to slavery. Any argument for abortion that does not factor in the life of the unborn child is not going to be meaningful.


How many pregnancies, miscarriages, ivf procedures, and other serious reproductive issues have you actually had?

You can make as many little pithy pronouncements as you want but you are not welcome or effective in these issues unless they are occurring in your own uterus or you are invited in.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2022 13:45     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care


Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?

DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.


I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.


You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?


Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.

Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.


If Trump said he didn't care how many Black and Hispanic babies were aborted, many men and women would be using his words as an example of racism. ..but I think you know that.


Well for one, babies are not aborted,’white, black, or otherwise.


Yes, they are aborted. You can also use the words suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc.


Embryos and fetuses are suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. when the women carrying them decide they do not want to be pregnant, as is their right (for now).

Babies are separate beings not embedded in another human being's body, and therefore not a part of this discussion at all.


Depends on your definition of ‘is’ is, amirite? Is a thing halfway out of a womb a baby or a fetus at that point?

The religious extremists that now run the GOP and the religious tribunal that we used to call the Supreme Court are banning abortion at all points and for any and all reasons. You can quit with your sad little red herring; women will die. Know that this blood is on your hands.


Exactly.



The Court itself is not banning abortion, but it appears that it would permit states to ban abortion. All in the name of democracy, of course. But what the Court appears to be saying is that there are no Constitutional limits on state abortion laws. In another words, under the US Constitution, a state could force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, even in case of rape or life of mother. Whether a state would do so is not relevant. No Constitutional limits, apparently. And we actually know that several states are considering such laws. So, the Court apparently is saying that a form of slavery is okay under our Constitution.


This is exactly what they’re saying. Women will be enslaved to the religious beliefs of crazy extremists. And, at least in the version Alito leaked because he was so proud of it, women can’t have rights because we didn’t always have rights.

I wonder if Clarence Thomas understands what his colleagues think of him or if he’s just happy to be a part of the leopards eating faces movement and thinks it won’t affect him.


They decide to take away an important constitutional right from all our and their children and grandchildren and they can't tolerate protests? Give me a break poor poor little justices. Or will that take away that right next?


There was no constitutional right to abortion. They can't take away something that wasn't there to begin with.



Awwwwwww. They seem perturbed that most of the country would beg to differ.
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Post 05/24/2022 13:44     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care


Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?

DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.


I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.


You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?


Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.

Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.


If Trump said he didn't care how many Black and Hispanic babies were aborted, many men and women would be using his words as an example of racism. ..but I think you know that.


Well for one, babies are not aborted,’white, black, or otherwise.


Yes, they are aborted. You can also use the words suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc.


Embryos and fetuses are suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. when the women carrying them decide they do not want to be pregnant, as is their right (for now).

Babies are separate beings not embedded in another human being's body, and therefore not a part of this discussion at all.


Depends on your definition of ‘is’ is, amirite? Is a thing halfway out of a womb a baby or a fetus at that point?

The religious extremists that now run the GOP and the religious tribunal that we used to call the Supreme Court are banning abortion at all points and for any and all reasons. You can quit with your sad little red herring; women will die. Know that this blood is on your hands.


Exactly.



The Court itself is not banning abortion, but it appears that it would permit states to ban abortion. All in the name of democracy, of course. But what the Court appears to be saying is that there are no Constitutional limits on state abortion laws. In another words, under the US Constitution, a state could force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, even in case of rape or life of mother. Whether a state would do so is not relevant. No Constitutional limits, apparently. And we actually know that several states are considering such laws. So, the Court apparently is saying that a form of slavery is okay under our Constitution.


You were doing fine until you equated protecting unborn children to slavery. Any argument for abortion that does not factor in the life of the unborn child is not going to be meaningful.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2022 13:42     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care


Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?

DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.


I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.


You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?


Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.

Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.


If Trump said he didn't care how many Black and Hispanic babies were aborted, many men and women would be using his words as an example of racism. ..but I think you know that.


Well for one, babies are not aborted,’white, black, or otherwise.


Yes, they are aborted. You can also use the words suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc.


Embryos and fetuses are suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. when the women carrying them decide they do not want to be pregnant, as is their right (for now).

Babies are separate beings not embedded in another human being's body, and therefore not a part of this discussion at all.


Depends on your definition of ‘is’ is, amirite? Is a thing halfway out of a womb a baby or a fetus at that point?

The religious extremists that now run the GOP and the religious tribunal that we used to call the Supreme Court are banning abortion at all points and for any and all reasons. You can quit with your sad little red herring; women will die. Know that this blood is on your hands.


Exactly.



The Court itself is not banning abortion, but it appears that it would permit states to ban abortion. All in the name of democracy, of course. But what the Court appears to be saying is that there are no Constitutional limits on state abortion laws. In another words, under the US Constitution, a state could force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, even in case of rape or life of mother. Whether a state would do so is not relevant. No Constitutional limits, apparently. And we actually know that several states are considering such laws. So, the Court apparently is saying that a form of slavery is okay under our Constitution.


This is exactly what they’re saying. Women will be enslaved to the religious beliefs of crazy extremists. And, at least in the version Alito leaked because he was so proud of it, women can’t have rights because we didn’t always have rights.

I wonder if Clarence Thomas understands what his colleagues think of him or if he’s just happy to be a part of the leopards eating faces movement and thinks it won’t affect him.


They decide to take away an important constitutional right from all our and their children and grandchildren and they can't tolerate protests? Give me a break poor poor little justices. Or will that take away that right next?


There was no constitutional right to abortion. They can't take away something that wasn't there to begin with.
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Post 05/24/2022 13:35     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care


Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?

DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.


I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.


You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?


Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.

Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.


If Trump said he didn't care how many Black and Hispanic babies were aborted, many men and women would be using his words as an example of racism. ..but I think you know that.


Well for one, babies are not aborted,’white, black, or otherwise.


Yes, they are aborted. You can also use the words suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc.


Embryos and fetuses are suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. when the women carrying them decide they do not want to be pregnant, as is their right (for now).

Babies are separate beings not embedded in another human being's body, and therefore not a part of this discussion at all.


Depends on your definition of ‘is’ is, amirite? Is a thing halfway out of a womb a baby or a fetus at that point?

The religious extremists that now run the GOP and the religious tribunal that we used to call the Supreme Court are banning abortion at all points and for any and all reasons. You can quit with your sad little red herring; women will die. Know that this blood is on your hands.


Exactly.



The Court itself is not banning abortion, but it appears that it would permit states to ban abortion. All in the name of democracy, of course. But what the Court appears to be saying is that there are no Constitutional limits on state abortion laws. In another words, under the US Constitution, a state could force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, even in case of rape or life of mother. Whether a state would do so is not relevant. No Constitutional limits, apparently. And we actually know that several states are considering such laws. So, the Court apparently is saying that a form of slavery is okay under our Constitution.


This is exactly what they’re saying. Women will be enslaved to the religious beliefs of crazy extremists. And, at least in the version Alito leaked because he was so proud of it, women can’t have rights because we didn’t always have rights.

I wonder if Clarence Thomas understands what his colleagues think of him or if he’s just happy to be a part of the leopards eating faces movement and thinks it won’t affect him.


They decide to take away an important constitutional right from all our and their children and grandchildren and they can't tolerate protests? Give me a break poor poor little justices. Or will that take away that right next?
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Post 05/24/2022 12:19     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care


Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?

DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.


I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.


You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?


Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.

Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.


If Trump said he didn't care how many Black and Hispanic babies were aborted, many men and women would be using his words as an example of racism. ..but I think you know that.


Well for one, babies are not aborted,’white, black, or otherwise.


Yes, they are aborted. You can also use the words suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc.


Embryos and fetuses are suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. when the women carrying them decide they do not want to be pregnant, as is their right (for now).

Babies are separate beings not embedded in another human being's body, and therefore not a part of this discussion at all.


Depends on your definition of ‘is’ is, amirite? Is a thing halfway out of a womb a baby or a fetus at that point?



How many weeks along is it? Was the zygote that washed out of your uterus during your menstrual cycle a baby?


That is part of the s Ole of the question. The definition varies depends on who is answering the question just like gender. Pro-choice should also apply to medical staff. OB/GYNs should not be forced to perform abortions if it goes against their beliefs, and patients should know this upfront about their doctors/nurse.


No - the question is about women's liberty. For their bodies and medical care.


There is blood on people’s hand no matter what the decision is.
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Post 05/24/2022 12:12     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care


Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?

DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.


I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.


You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?


Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.

Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.


If Trump said he didn't care how many Black and Hispanic babies were aborted, many men and women would be using his words as an example of racism. ..but I think you know that.


Well for one, babies are not aborted,’white, black, or otherwise.


Yes, they are aborted. You can also use the words suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc.


Embryos and fetuses are suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. when the women carrying them decide they do not want to be pregnant, as is their right (for now).

Babies are separate beings not embedded in another human being's body, and therefore not a part of this discussion at all.


Depends on your definition of ‘is’ is, amirite? Is a thing halfway out of a womb a baby or a fetus at that point?

The religious extremists that now run the GOP and the religious tribunal that we used to call the Supreme Court are banning abortion at all points and for any and all reasons. You can quit with your sad little red herring; women will die. Know that this blood is on your hands.


Exactly.



The Court itself is not banning abortion, but it appears that it would permit states to ban abortion. All in the name of democracy, of course. But what the Court appears to be saying is that there are no Constitutional limits on state abortion laws. In another words, under the US Constitution, a state could force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, even in case of rape or life of mother. Whether a state would do so is not relevant. No Constitutional limits, apparently. And we actually know that several states are considering such laws. So, the Court apparently is saying that a form of slavery is okay under our Constitution.


This is exactly what they’re saying. Women will be enslaved to the religious beliefs of crazy extremists. And, at least in the version Alito leaked because he was so proud of it, women can’t have rights because we didn’t always have rights.

I wonder if Clarence Thomas understands what his colleagues think of him or if he’s just happy to be a part of the leopards eating faces movement and thinks it won’t affect him.
Anonymous
Post 05/24/2022 12:09     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care


Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?

DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.


I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.


You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?


Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.

Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.


If Trump said he didn't care how many Black and Hispanic babies were aborted, many men and women would be using his words as an example of racism. ..but I think you know that.


Well for one, babies are not aborted,’white, black, or otherwise.


Yes, they are aborted. You can also use the words suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc.


Embryos and fetuses are suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. when the women carrying them decide they do not want to be pregnant, as is their right (for now).

Babies are separate beings not embedded in another human being's body, and therefore not a part of this discussion at all.


Depends on your definition of ‘is’ is, amirite? Is a thing halfway out of a womb a baby or a fetus at that point?

The religious extremists that now run the GOP and the religious tribunal that we used to call the Supreme Court are banning abortion at all points and for any and all reasons. You can quit with your sad little red herring; women will die. Know that this blood is on your hands.


Exactly.



The Court itself is not banning abortion, but it appears that it would permit states to ban abortion. All in the name of democracy, of course. But what the Court appears to be saying is that there are no Constitutional limits on state abortion laws. In another words, under the US Constitution, a state could force a woman to carry a pregnancy to term, even in case of rape or life of mother. Whether a state would do so is not relevant. No Constitutional limits, apparently. And we actually know that several states are considering such laws. So, the Court apparently is saying that a form of slavery is okay under our Constitution.




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Post 05/24/2022 11:55     Subject: “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled," Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft

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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:And yet pro lifers have those signs all over black areas about how the most unsafe place for a black baby is in the womb due to abortion- like they even care


Do you think it's better to abort Black and Hispanic babies with no limitations at all?

DP here. I think it's better for Black, Latina, Chicana, Indigenous, you name it women to have the freedom to make decisions about what is best for themselves and their families. I don't think I know what's best, nor do I think you know.


I know, and I think you know, that far too many Black and Hispanic babies are aborted.


You sound patronizing. Why do you think Black and Hispanic women shouldn't have control over their bodies? Feeling nostalgic for the good old days when white men had control over Black women's bodies?


Your lack of concrn for the destruction of babies who are Black or Hispanic is disturbing. If someone like Trump were encouraging Black and Hispanic moms to abort their babies or applauding their choices to do so, I don't think you'd be dismissive of what's happening.

Allowing women liberty isn't the same as encouraging anything...but I think you know that.


If Trump said he didn't care how many Black and Hispanic babies were aborted, many men and women would be using his words as an example of racism. ..but I think you know that.


Well for one, babies are not aborted,’white, black, or otherwise.


Yes, they are aborted. You can also use the words suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc.


Embryos and fetuses are suctioned out, vacuumed out, terminated, etc. when the women carrying them decide they do not want to be pregnant, as is their right (for now).

Babies are separate beings not embedded in another human being's body, and therefore not a part of this discussion at all.


Depends on your definition of ‘is’ is, amirite? Is a thing halfway out of a womb a baby or a fetus at that point?

The religious extremists that now run the GOP and the religious tribunal that we used to call the Supreme Court are banning abortion at all points and for any and all reasons. You can quit with your sad little red herring; women will die. Know that this blood is on your hands.


Exactly.