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Anonymous wrote:I’ve come to the conclusion Gen Z is the most mentally unstable generation. Zero resilience and coping strategies outside of their therapists and pharmaceuticals

Agree. I think the best thing is a rude awakening.

Have the government go after them for anything and everything - pro-Hamas; any protests; online crazy posts that hinge on inciting violence. I’m all for it even as a Democrat.

We need better people.

Unfortunately, Gen Alpha isn't looking promising.

These kids didn’t raise themselves.

Gen X did.

Biden, Pardon Luigi!

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve come to the conclusion Gen Z is the most mentally unstable generation. Zero resilience and coping strategies outside of their therapists and pharmaceuticals

Agree. I think the best thing is a rude awakening.

Have the government go after them for anything and everything - pro-Hamas; any protests; online crazy posts that hinge on inciting violence. I’m all for it even as a Democrat.

We need better people.

You are a Democrat and you think the government should go after anyone engaging in “any protests?” I’m sorry, but huh? And if that’s the case, wouldn’t the government have to go after Trump and lots of his followers for posting things that “hinge on inciting violence”?

Yes, Absolutely. It goes both ways.
we need law-abiding citizens. there are proper ways to disagree that don't infringe on other people's rights.

NP. Like…protests?

Some input to the insurance companies bad vs insurance companies good debate:
https://www.propublica.org/article/how-often-do-health-insurers-deny-patients-claims
In 2010, federal regulators were granted expansive authority through the Affordable Care Act to require that insurers provide information on their denials. This data could have meant a sea change in transparency for consumers. But more than a decade later, the federal government has collected only a fraction of what it’s entitled to. And what information it has released, experts say, is so crude, inconsistent and confusing that it’s essentially meaningless.

https://acdis.org/articles/news-aha-report-suggests-ma-denials-increased-557-between-2022-2023
A new report released by the American Hospital Association (AHA) catalogues “staggering” administrative costs imposed on hospital operating margins.
The report—“Skyrocketing hospital administrative costs, burdensome commercial insurer policies are impacting patient care”—suggests that “excessive regulatory and insurer requirements” account for “more than 40% of total expenses hospitals incur in delivering care to patients.”
The authors of the report highlighted the growing trend in denials over the past few years, observing that care denials occurring between 2022 and 2023 increased a whopping average of 20.2% for commercial claims and 55.7% for Medicare Advantage claims, respectively.
--I assume this is hospital claims so we don't know what is happening in outpatient care

Because the govt is not getting this data, there's a lot we don't know. There may have also been some degree of Covid effect (otoh non-emergency surgeries and other care were being delayed during Covid), but a 57% year to year increase for MA denials??

Huge criticism on r/medicine about the Vox article claiming BCBS was not doing what they were actually doing re: anesthesia (even if it's a bit more complicated). It does sound like Vox and BCBS spun much harder than the ASA did.

So, is it violence when a corporation's practices lead to otherwise avoidable deaths (whether an insurance company, an international agribusiness, wood products, textile, energy, or mining company)? Was what Purdue did violence? Enron?

If "corporations are people" then when they commit violence via the ways they do business rather than 3-d printing a gun and shooting is there the same culpability?

UHC stock is coming back up, and in the end the same will happen for other insurers--because they also hold society hostage. In murder prosecutions, that's an aggravating factor.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve come to the conclusion Gen Z is the most mentally unstable generation. Zero resilience and coping strategies outside of their therapists and pharmaceuticals

Agree. I think the best thing is a rude awakening.

Have the government go after them for anything and everything - pro-Hamas; any protests; online crazy posts that hinge on inciting violence. I’m all for it even as a Democrat.

We need better people.

You are a Democrat and you think the government should go after anyone engaging in “any protests?” I’m sorry, but huh? And if that’s the case, wouldn’t the government have to go after Trump and lots of his followers for posting things that “hinge on inciting violence”?

Yes, Absolutely. It goes both ways.
we need law-abiding citizens. there are proper ways to disagree that don't infringe on other people's rights.

What is known so far regarding the handwritten manifesto:

https://www.newsweek.com/luigi-mangione-manifesto-unitedhealthcare-shooting-1998240

Anonymous wrote:The manifesto doesn't show any indication of mania or psychosis. Bipolar manic speech/writing is long, rambling, disorganized and inarticulate. The speaker/writer will jump between subjects in a bizarre way.

None of that is present here. The manifesto was a few paragraphs long, well-written, and easy to understand.

there's SO much new stuff today on X.
A lot of ppl who think he was set up?

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Anonymous wrote:When they said he ran across Central Park I thought that made such good sense—that he had stashed a bag with change of shirt and jacket and new fake ID, and would easily be able to ditch the gun in the park and make it really hard to find. But it seems like he did none of that. If he had fresh clothes and new bag and ID, he could have stayed on that bus until Oregon and disappeared forever.

He should have used his rich pretty privilege to his advantage and threw on a Penn sweatshirt and nobody would have batted an eye at him. He probably look insane in that McDonalds

You're probably right. He's a charismatic guy; he could have blended right in, and if anyone was suspicious, easily thrown them off by laughing with them "yea, I keep getting told I look like that guy. Crazy, huh?"

No doubt he regrets that now.

He ain't acting remorseful nor regretful.


He's shoving policemen in the courthouse and shouting out his personal gospel to the media and spectators.

Prob withdrawal

He looks like your garden variety crazy that you might see on a subway. Not a Robin Hood with a well thought out plan.

People here are crazy.
Hoping someone is tracking IP addresses

FBI does. and saves your social media posts long after you delete them.

Comes in handy for when you derail.

good. maybe someone should send this thread their way.
Way to many people defending, supporting, justifying, inciting and affiliating with violence.

Anonymous wrote:The manifesto doesn't show any indication of mania or psychosis. Bipolar manic speech/writing is long, rambling, disorganized and inarticulate. The speaker/writer will jump between subjects in a bizarre way.

None of that is present here. The manifesto was a few paragraphs long, well-written, and easy to understand.

Because it was not his. Just someone pretending to be him with the AI help.

His is handwritten on 3 pages, and authorities have not released any of it except a couple of sentences.

Anonymous wrote:The manifesto doesn't show any indication of mania or psychosis. Bipolar manic speech/writing is long, rambling, disorganized and inarticulate. The speaker/writer will jump between subjects in a bizarre way.

None of that is present here. The manifesto was a few paragraphs long, well-written, and easy to understand.

Anyone have a link to a verified source for the actual manifesto? I see many purported manifestos on sketchy sites but nowhere legitimate that I can find

The manifesto doesn't show any indication of mania or psychosis. Bipolar manic speech/writing is long, rambling, disorganized and inarticulate. The speaker/writer will jump between subjects in a bizarre way.

None of that is present here. The manifesto was a few paragraphs long, well-written, and easy to understand.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s probably got bipolar and is in a mixed state. Just watched the video and that kid is not well. Sad.

I wonder if he always had mental illness and his family was just able to manage it extremely well. It sounds like he was living in California away from family post surgery and probably couldn’t manage and was also doing drugs and lost it.

Probably. It will all come out. ASD + bipolar and maybe triggered Schizophrenia.

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I don’t think he is ASD. The other two maybe, definitely schizophrenia

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Anonymous wrote:He’s probably got bipolar and is in a mixed state. Just watched the video and that kid is not well. Sad.

I wonder if he always had mental illness and his family was just able to manage it extremely well. It sounds like he was living in California away from family post surgery and probably couldn’t manage and was also doing drugs and lost it.

Probably. It will all come out. ASD + bipolar and maybe triggered Schizophrenia.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s not just popular with Gen Z. r/Embroidery is loving on Luigi too.

I am surprised that so many people are surprised that Luigi studied the Unabomber. As a parent of recent grads and current college students, I can tell you that his writings and story are very popular. Like Luigi, his ideology was mixed to say the least. Anti-capitalist, anti-technology, very misogynistic, and obviously brilliant but mentally ill. There is a lot of discussion around his writings and while I wouldn’t say there is admiration for him in total, there is both admiration for some of his views and sympathy for his experiences as a somewhat troubled kid who was the subject of torturous psychological experimentation.

In any case, many students and young adults are definitely very interested in . This is not unique to Luigi.

Sorry, what was the “torturous psychological experiment” Luigi was apparently undergoing?

You mean go to 5-6 years of college, graduate, work fulltime and live away from your parents and structured schooling?

I was referring to Ted Kaczynski

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/impromptu-man/201205/harvards-experiment-on-the-unabomber-class-of-62

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Anonymous wrote:He’s not just popular with Gen Z. r/Embroidery is loving on Luigi too.

I am surprised that so many people are surprised that Luigi studied the Unabomber. As a parent of recent grads and current college students, I can tell you that his writings and story are very popular. Like Luigi, his ideology was mixed to say the least. Anti-capitalist, anti-technology, very misogynistic, and obviously brilliant but mentally ill. There is a lot of discussion around his writings and while I wouldn’t say there is admiration for him in total, there is both admiration for some of his views and sympathy for his experiences as a somewhat troubled kid who was the subject of torturous psychological experimentation.

In any case, many students and young adults are definitely very interested in Ted Kaczynski. This is not unique to Luigi.

Sorry, what was the “torturous psychological experiment” Luigi was apparently undergoing?

You mean go to 5-6 years of college, graduate, work fulltime and live away from your parents and structured schooling?

That poster meant the unabomber was a subject in an unethical and traumatic experiment as a very young college student, which is true.