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Post 04/06/2024 15:52     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

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Anonymous wrote:The B2007 selection was a joke. Mostly Braves players received offers—those same Braves players who were initially not offered spots on VAUnion.
The most absurd part? The Braves coach maintained an ongoing group chat with his players, asking them whom he should recruit for his new team.
I never want to hear that they are making decisions based on "the best interest of the players", they don't care about them.


I'm sorry your son didn't receive an offer, but that isn't surprising when you consider there were probably about 100 kids with ECNL-N and MLSNext experience at tryouts. This was the hardest age group since it consisted of both 2007 and 2006 boys.

I don't blame a coach for asking his players for opinions on players he should watch at a tryout. There were a lot of kids to scout. All of these kids have either played together or against one another for years. They know each other and know who has technical and tactical skills. Asking some players, who are now 17/18 and have been playing soccer for over 10 years, for their opinions on players seems like a good decision to me. These are young men who we demand perform a sport at one of the highest levels. They want to win and they want the best players available to help them win. So, a coach asking some of his better players who is good and who he should recruit, I think is making a decision.

And just to put the current B2007 teams into perspective for you, VAUnion just barely beat BRAVE 2 years ago. This was the very first game for the 2007 BRAVE team and this BRAVE team lost every game in conference that year and had a goal differential of more than -100.

This year the B2007 BRAVE team beat VAUnion. So don't act like the team VAUnion team was a top of the table club.

I know for a fact that there are about 5 Union boys that received offers, a boy from NVA, a boy from a MLSNext team, plus some boys I'm not sure where they played last year.

Will this age group consist of more BRAVE players? Yes, it will consist of a little over half, but it's not the whole current team that received offers.

Will next years FVU 2007/06B team be better? Yes, it will. And I think it will be significantly better than either the current BRAVE or VAUnion teams. Next year's team will be deep and every player will be pushing each other for playing time. The talent difference between the starters and bench players will be razor thin.

All of this is what you want in the upper age groups for academy teams.



PS. This is posted by a parent who is tired of the VAUnion whining and complaining.




Tell us, how do YOU have detailed information on the offers/make up of the team? Are you a coach or administrator? Or are you a parent or player?


I don’t have a dog in this fight, but a coach asking 17 year olds for opinions on players in a group chat is moronic. I can’t imagine a competent coach doing that, so hopefully that isn’t true.

BRAVE and Union 07s look to both have had losing records. It’s a jump to go from u17 to u19, with a decent number of left over 06s now in the mix. If 100ish players showed up for tryouts, at most half of the roster would likely be coming from BRAVE and Union 07 COMBINED. Frankly, I’d be shocked if FVU Boys isn’t the weakest boys ECNL side in NOVA.


For someone who doesn't have a dog in the fight, and therefore has a lack of information and data, you seem to feel very strongly about the coach and team then? Using terms like "moronic", and implying that the coach isn't "competent" seems like very strong feelings to me.

Plus, to make the uninformed, dare I say "moronic", statement that "FVU boys will be the weakest boys in ECNL in NOVA", really seems like you have some ax to grind. Maybe your son was rejected or maybe you are just a coach from SYC and are afraid that you'll loose some of the talented players to another club. Maybe you are from VDA and know that BRAVE beat you and they will be better next year. Or maybe you are from Loudoun, know you've lost at least one very good player and are afraid what that means for next year.

No need to lie. You posted your statement anonymously.

See you on the sideline next year!!


You must be a joy at parties.


I am. Thanks for asking.

But if I’m at a party with you and I make a disparaging statement not based on facts or reality about your wife, family or friends, I would expect you to call me out on my bullshxx. Even if I do start my statement with either, “I don’t have a dog in this fight” or “With all due respect”.


“I don’t have a dog in this fight, but a coach asking 17 year olds for opinions on players in a group chat is moronic. I can’t imagine a competent coach doing that, so hopefully that isn’t true.

Nothing there is disparaging and I’d question what anyone who actually disagrees with that is thinking, if they think roster selection via team group chat is a good idea…hell, the coach himself would probably scoff at that, if he were to be asked about it. Stop being overly defensive and over-sensitive.


I can’t speak for everyone, but I do think the term “moronic” might, in some circles be considered disparaging.

And to continue a rumor based on an anonymous post about a specific coach’s actions is also disparaging.

And then to make the statement, “Frankly, I’d be shocked if FVU Boys isn’t the weakest boys ECNL side in NOVA” is a very disparaging remark.

Again, say nothing if you don’t have something positive to add. Stop trolling.

I won’t bother debating you about semantics. But, if you polled people who’ve been around and asked which boys program will be the weakest next year of Arl, NVA, VDA and FVU, FVU would be the most popular choice. That’s not disparaging. That’s not a troll. That’s reality.

I really hope that is wrong because - and this is pure speculation - I don’t think ECNL leadership wants this club to succeed. I think they won’t hesitate to cut FVU loose in a year or two, if the boys and girls aren’t both mid to top of the table in most age groups. You might think that is negative thinking, and you might not care if your kid is gone, but I’ve been around and have more years to go on the girls side, so I really hope the boys leadership is really pushing and ready to start beating on NVA, VDA, Arl and everyone else.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2024 15:13     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

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Anonymous wrote:The B2007 selection was a joke. Mostly Braves players received offers—those same Braves players who were initially not offered spots on VAUnion.
The most absurd part? The Braves coach maintained an ongoing group chat with his players, asking them whom he should recruit for his new team.
I never want to hear that they are making decisions based on "the best interest of the players", they don't care about them.


I'm sorry your son didn't receive an offer, but that isn't surprising when you consider there were probably about 100 kids with ECNL-N and MLSNext experience at tryouts. This was the hardest age group since it consisted of both 2007 and 2006 boys.

I don't blame a coach for asking his players for opinions on players he should watch at a tryout. There were a lot of kids to scout. All of these kids have either played together or against one another for years. They know each other and know who has technical and tactical skills. Asking some players, who are now 17/18 and have been playing soccer for over 10 years, for their opinions on players seems like a good decision to me. These are young men who we demand perform a sport at one of the highest levels. They want to win and they want the best players available to help them win. So, a coach asking some of his better players who is good and who he should recruit, I think is making a decision.

And just to put the current B2007 teams into perspective for you, VAUnion just barely beat BRAVE 2 years ago. This was the very first game for the 2007 BRAVE team and this BRAVE team lost every game in conference that year and had a goal differential of more than -100.

This year the B2007 BRAVE team beat VAUnion. So don't act like the team VAUnion team was a top of the table club.

I know for a fact that there are about 5 Union boys that received offers, a boy from NVA, a boy from a MLSNext team, plus some boys I'm not sure where they played last year.

Will this age group consist of more BRAVE players? Yes, it will consist of a little over half, but it's not the whole current team that received offers.

Will next years FVU 2007/06B team be better? Yes, it will. And I think it will be significantly better than either the current BRAVE or VAUnion teams. Next year's team will be deep and every player will be pushing each other for playing time. The talent difference between the starters and bench players will be razor thin.

All of this is what you want in the upper age groups for academy teams.



PS. This is posted by a parent who is tired of the VAUnion whining and complaining.




Tell us, how do YOU have detailed information on the offers/make up of the team? Are you a coach or administrator? Or are you a parent or player?


I don’t have a dog in this fight, but a coach asking 17 year olds for opinions on players in a group chat is moronic. I can’t imagine a competent coach doing that, so hopefully that isn’t true.

BRAVE and Union 07s look to both have had losing records. It’s a jump to go from u17 to u19, with a decent number of left over 06s now in the mix. If 100ish players showed up for tryouts, at most half of the roster would likely be coming from BRAVE and Union 07 COMBINED. Frankly, I’d be shocked if FVU Boys isn’t the weakest boys ECNL side in NOVA.


For someone who doesn't have a dog in the fight, and therefore has a lack of information and data, you seem to feel very strongly about the coach and team then? Using terms like "moronic", and implying that the coach isn't "competent" seems like very strong feelings to me.

Plus, to make the uninformed, dare I say "moronic", statement that "FVU boys will be the weakest boys in ECNL in NOVA", really seems like you have some ax to grind. Maybe your son was rejected or maybe you are just a coach from SYC and are afraid that you'll loose some of the talented players to another club. Maybe you are from VDA and know that BRAVE beat you and they will be better next year. Or maybe you are from Loudoun, know you've lost at least one very good player and are afraid what that means for next year.

No need to lie. You posted your statement anonymously.

See you on the sideline next year!!


You must be a joy at parties.


Wait, is there a party? Why wasn’t I invited?
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2024 15:00     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

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Anonymous wrote:The B2007 selection was a joke. Mostly Braves players received offers—those same Braves players who were initially not offered spots on VAUnion.
The most absurd part? The Braves coach maintained an ongoing group chat with his players, asking them whom he should recruit for his new team.
I never want to hear that they are making decisions based on "the best interest of the players", they don't care about them.


I'm sorry your son didn't receive an offer, but that isn't surprising when you consider there were probably about 100 kids with ECNL-N and MLSNext experience at tryouts. This was the hardest age group since it consisted of both 2007 and 2006 boys.

I don't blame a coach for asking his players for opinions on players he should watch at a tryout. There were a lot of kids to scout. All of these kids have either played together or against one another for years. They know each other and know who has technical and tactical skills. Asking some players, who are now 17/18 and have been playing soccer for over 10 years, for their opinions on players seems like a good decision to me. These are young men who we demand perform a sport at one of the highest levels. They want to win and they want the best players available to help them win. So, a coach asking some of his better players who is good and who he should recruit, I think is making a decision.

And just to put the current B2007 teams into perspective for you, VAUnion just barely beat BRAVE 2 years ago. This was the very first game for the 2007 BRAVE team and this BRAVE team lost every game in conference that year and had a goal differential of more than -100.

This year the B2007 BRAVE team beat VAUnion. So don't act like the team VAUnion team was a top of the table club.

I know for a fact that there are about 5 Union boys that received offers, a boy from NVA, a boy from a MLSNext team, plus some boys I'm not sure where they played last year.

Will this age group consist of more BRAVE players? Yes, it will consist of a little over half, but it's not the whole current team that received offers.

Will next years FVU 2007/06B team be better? Yes, it will. And I think it will be significantly better than either the current BRAVE or VAUnion teams. Next year's team will be deep and every player will be pushing each other for playing time. The talent difference between the starters and bench players will be razor thin.

All of this is what you want in the upper age groups for academy teams.



PS. This is posted by a parent who is tired of the VAUnion whining and complaining.




Tell us, how do YOU have detailed information on the offers/make up of the team? Are you a coach or administrator? Or are you a parent or player?


I don’t have a dog in this fight, but a coach asking 17 year olds for opinions on players in a group chat is moronic. I can’t imagine a competent coach doing that, so hopefully that isn’t true.

BRAVE and Union 07s look to both have had losing records. It’s a jump to go from u17 to u19, with a decent number of left over 06s now in the mix. If 100ish players showed up for tryouts, at most half of the roster would likely be coming from BRAVE and Union 07 COMBINED. Frankly, I’d be shocked if FVU Boys isn’t the weakest boys ECNL side in NOVA.


For someone who doesn't have a dog in the fight, and therefore has a lack of information and data, you seem to feel very strongly about the coach and team then? Using terms like "moronic", and implying that the coach isn't "competent" seems like very strong feelings to me.

Plus, to make the uninformed, dare I say "moronic", statement that "FVU boys will be the weakest boys in ECNL in NOVA", really seems like you have some ax to grind. Maybe your son was rejected or maybe you are just a coach from SYC and are afraid that you'll loose some of the talented players to another club. Maybe you are from VDA and know that BRAVE beat you and they will be better next year. Or maybe you are from Loudoun, know you've lost at least one very good player and are afraid what that means for next year.

No need to lie. You posted your statement anonymously.

See you on the sideline next year!!


You must be a joy at parties.


I am. Thanks for asking.

But if I’m at a party with you and I make a disparaging statement not based on facts or reality about your wife, family or friends, I would expect you to call me out on my bullshxx. Even if I do start my statement with either, “I don’t have a dog in this fight” or “With all due respect”.


“I don’t have a dog in this fight, but a coach asking 17 year olds for opinions on players in a group chat is moronic. I can’t imagine a competent coach doing that, so hopefully that isn’t true.

Nothing there is disparaging and I’d question what anyone who actually disagrees with that is thinking, if they think roster selection via team group chat is a good idea…hell, the coach himself would probably scoff at that, if he were to be asked about it. Stop being overly defensive and over-sensitive.


I can’t speak for everyone, but I do think the term “moronic” might, in some circles be considered disparaging.

And to continue a rumor based on an anonymous post about a specific coach’s actions is also disparaging.

And then to make the statement, “Frankly, I’d be shocked if FVU Boys isn’t the weakest boys ECNL side in NOVA” is a very disparaging remark.

Again, say nothing if you don’t have something positive to add. Stop trolling.

Anonymous
Post 04/06/2024 14:32     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The B2007 selection was a joke. Mostly Braves players received offers—those same Braves players who were initially not offered spots on VAUnion.
The most absurd part? The Braves coach maintained an ongoing group chat with his players, asking them whom he should recruit for his new team.
I never want to hear that they are making decisions based on "the best interest of the players", they don't care about them.


I'm sorry your son didn't receive an offer, but that isn't surprising when you consider there were probably about 100 kids with ECNL-N and MLSNext experience at tryouts. This was the hardest age group since it consisted of both 2007 and 2006 boys.

I don't blame a coach for asking his players for opinions on players he should watch at a tryout. There were a lot of kids to scout. All of these kids have either played together or against one another for years. They know each other and know who has technical and tactical skills. Asking some players, who are now 17/18 and have been playing soccer for over 10 years, for their opinions on players seems like a good decision to me. These are young men who we demand perform a sport at one of the highest levels. They want to win and they want the best players available to help them win. So, a coach asking some of his better players who is good and who he should recruit, I think is making a decision.

And just to put the current B2007 teams into perspective for you, VAUnion just barely beat BRAVE 2 years ago. This was the very first game for the 2007 BRAVE team and this BRAVE team lost every game in conference that year and had a goal differential of more than -100.

This year the B2007 BRAVE team beat VAUnion. So don't act like the team VAUnion team was a top of the table club.

I know for a fact that there are about 5 Union boys that received offers, a boy from NVA, a boy from a MLSNext team, plus some boys I'm not sure where they played last year.

Will this age group consist of more BRAVE players? Yes, it will consist of a little over half, but it's not the whole current team that received offers.

Will next years FVU 2007/06B team be better? Yes, it will. And I think it will be significantly better than either the current BRAVE or VAUnion teams. Next year's team will be deep and every player will be pushing each other for playing time. The talent difference between the starters and bench players will be razor thin.

All of this is what you want in the upper age groups for academy teams.



PS. This is posted by a parent who is tired of the VAUnion whining and complaining.




Tell us, how do YOU have detailed information on the offers/make up of the team? Are you a coach or administrator? Or are you a parent or player?


I don’t have a dog in this fight, but a coach asking 17 year olds for opinions on players in a group chat is moronic. I can’t imagine a competent coach doing that, so hopefully that isn’t true.

BRAVE and Union 07s look to both have had losing records. It’s a jump to go from u17 to u19, with a decent number of left over 06s now in the mix. If 100ish players showed up for tryouts, at most half of the roster would likely be coming from BRAVE and Union 07 COMBINED. Frankly, I’d be shocked if FVU Boys isn’t the weakest boys ECNL side in NOVA.


For someone who doesn't have a dog in the fight, and therefore has a lack of information and data, you seem to feel very strongly about the coach and team then? Using terms like "moronic", and implying that the coach isn't "competent" seems like very strong feelings to me.

Plus, to make the uninformed, dare I say "moronic", statement that "FVU boys will be the weakest boys in ECNL in NOVA", really seems like you have some ax to grind. Maybe your son was rejected or maybe you are just a coach from SYC and are afraid that you'll loose some of the talented players to another club. Maybe you are from VDA and know that BRAVE beat you and they will be better next year. Or maybe you are from Loudoun, know you've lost at least one very good player and are afraid what that means for next year.

No need to lie. You posted your statement anonymously.

See you on the sideline next year!!


You must be a joy at parties.


I am. Thanks for asking.

But if I’m at a party with you and I make a disparaging statement not based on facts or reality about your wife, family or friends, I would expect you to call me out on my bullshxx. Even if I do start my statement with either, “I don’t have a dog in this fight” or “With all due respect”.


“I don’t have a dog in this fight, but a coach asking 17 year olds for opinions on players in a group chat is moronic. I can’t imagine a competent coach doing that, so hopefully that isn’t true.

Nothing there is disparaging and I’d question what anyone who actually disagrees with that is thinking, if they think roster selection via team group chat is a good idea…hell, the coach himself would probably scoff at that, if he were to be asked about it. Stop being overly defensive and over-sensitive.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2024 14:26     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The B2007 selection was a joke. Mostly Braves players received offers—those same Braves players who were initially not offered spots on VAUnion.
The most absurd part? The Braves coach maintained an ongoing group chat with his players, asking them whom he should recruit for his new team.
I never want to hear that they are making decisions based on "the best interest of the players", they don't care about them.


I'm sorry your son didn't receive an offer, but that isn't surprising when you consider there were probably about 100 kids with ECNL-N and MLSNext experience at tryouts. This was the hardest age group since it consisted of both 2007 and 2006 boys.

I don't blame a coach for asking his players for opinions on players he should watch at a tryout. There were a lot of kids to scout. All of these kids have either played together or against one another for years. They know each other and know who has technical and tactical skills. Asking some players, who are now 17/18 and have been playing soccer for over 10 years, for their opinions on players seems like a good decision to me. These are young men who we demand perform a sport at one of the highest levels. They want to win and they want the best players available to help them win. So, a coach asking some of his better players who is good and who he should recruit, I think is making a decision.

And just to put the current B2007 teams into perspective for you, VAUnion just barely beat BRAVE 2 years ago. This was the very first game for the 2007 BRAVE team and this BRAVE team lost every game in conference that year and had a goal differential of more than -100.

This year the B2007 BRAVE team beat VAUnion. So don't act like the team VAUnion team was a top of the table club.

I know for a fact that there are about 5 Union boys that received offers, a boy from NVA, a boy from a MLSNext team, plus some boys I'm not sure where they played last year.

Will this age group consist of more BRAVE players? Yes, it will consist of a little over half, but it's not the whole current team that received offers.

Will next years FVU 2007/06B team be better? Yes, it will. And I think it will be significantly better than either the current BRAVE or VAUnion teams. Next year's team will be deep and every player will be pushing each other for playing time. The talent difference between the starters and bench players will be razor thin.

All of this is what you want in the upper age groups for academy teams.



PS. This is posted by a parent who is tired of the VAUnion whining and complaining.




Tell us, how do YOU have detailed information on the offers/make up of the team? Are you a coach or administrator? Or are you a parent or player?


I don’t have a dog in this fight, but a coach asking 17 year olds for opinions on players in a group chat is moronic. I can’t imagine a competent coach doing that, so hopefully that isn’t true.

BRAVE and Union 07s look to both have had losing records. It’s a jump to go from u17 to u19, with a decent number of left over 06s now in the mix. If 100ish players showed up for tryouts, at most half of the roster would likely be coming from BRAVE and Union 07 COMBINED. Frankly, I’d be shocked if FVU Boys isn’t the weakest boys ECNL side in NOVA.


For someone who doesn't have a dog in the fight, and therefore has a lack of information and data, you seem to feel very strongly about the coach and team then? Using terms like "moronic", and implying that the coach isn't "competent" seems like very strong feelings to me.

Plus, to make the uninformed, dare I say "moronic", statement that "FVU boys will be the weakest boys in ECNL in NOVA", really seems like you have some ax to grind. Maybe your son was rejected or maybe you are just a coach from SYC and are afraid that you'll loose some of the talented players to another club. Maybe you are from VDA and know that BRAVE beat you and they will be better next year. Or maybe you are from Loudoun, know you've lost at least one very good player and are afraid what that means for next year.

No need to lie. You posted your statement anonymously.

See you on the sideline next year!!


Right, no need to lie and I’m not. You won’t see me on the sideline. My son is already playing in college, but I am concerned that this partnership will blow up a good girls program for my daughter. Hopefully NM can step in salvage the boys program in a year or two, because it will likely be necessary.


I’m happy for your son and I hope that your daughter finds joy in her soccer journey.

But it sounds like one of her parents is a very negative, glass half-full person. Can’t you just keep your backhanded comments about the boy’s side to yourself and send some positive waves out about the merger and next year’s teams. Being a jerk doesn’t do anyone any good.

ECNL forced this on everyone and it impacted a lot of players and families on both clubs. Your negativity posted anonymously doesn’t help anyone. You really should stop trolling the boys or the girls, which you’ll probably start doing as soon as something doesn’t go your way.

Anonymous
Post 04/06/2024 13:51     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The B2007 selection was a joke. Mostly Braves players received offers—those same Braves players who were initially not offered spots on VAUnion.
The most absurd part? The Braves coach maintained an ongoing group chat with his players, asking them whom he should recruit for his new team.
I never want to hear that they are making decisions based on "the best interest of the players", they don't care about them.


I'm sorry your son didn't receive an offer, but that isn't surprising when you consider there were probably about 100 kids with ECNL-N and MLSNext experience at tryouts. This was the hardest age group since it consisted of both 2007 and 2006 boys.

I don't blame a coach for asking his players for opinions on players he should watch at a tryout. There were a lot of kids to scout. All of these kids have either played together or against one another for years. They know each other and know who has technical and tactical skills. Asking some players, who are now 17/18 and have been playing soccer for over 10 years, for their opinions on players seems like a good decision to me. These are young men who we demand perform a sport at one of the highest levels. They want to win and they want the best players available to help them win. So, a coach asking some of his better players who is good and who he should recruit, I think is making a decision.

And just to put the current B2007 teams into perspective for you, VAUnion just barely beat BRAVE 2 years ago. This was the very first game for the 2007 BRAVE team and this BRAVE team lost every game in conference that year and had a goal differential of more than -100.

This year the B2007 BRAVE team beat VAUnion. So don't act like the team VAUnion team was a top of the table club.

I know for a fact that there are about 5 Union boys that received offers, a boy from NVA, a boy from a MLSNext team, plus some boys I'm not sure where they played last year.

Will this age group consist of more BRAVE players? Yes, it will consist of a little over half, but it's not the whole current team that received offers.

Will next years FVU 2007/06B team be better? Yes, it will. And I think it will be significantly better than either the current BRAVE or VAUnion teams. Next year's team will be deep and every player will be pushing each other for playing time. The talent difference between the starters and bench players will be razor thin.

All of this is what you want in the upper age groups for academy teams.



PS. This is posted by a parent who is tired of the VAUnion whining and complaining.




Tell us, how do YOU have detailed information on the offers/make up of the team? Are you a coach or administrator? Or are you a parent or player?


A parent. I was at tryouts and saw a lot of high quality players. I would say 90-95% of the kids there were good players. There were some good BRAVE players that didn't make the team for next year, including some of the current BRAVE starters.

Plus the players all talk to each other and I just had to ask my son who got offers. They have friends (on VAUnion, SYC, Alex, Arlington, NVA, etc). So, the information of who got offers and who didn't was a hot topic for the players for several weeks.


Since you have some insider info, do you know if the 07/06B roster has been finalized? Asking for a friend...
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2024 13:37     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Only 18 can be in uniform on the bench for a game anyway.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2024 13:17     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The B2007 selection was a joke. Mostly Braves players received offers—those same Braves players who were initially not offered spots on VAUnion.
The most absurd part? The Braves coach maintained an ongoing group chat with his players, asking them whom he should recruit for his new team.
I never want to hear that they are making decisions based on "the best interest of the players", they don't care about them.


I'm sorry your son didn't receive an offer, but that isn't surprising when you consider there were probably about 100 kids with ECNL-N and MLSNext experience at tryouts. This was the hardest age group since it consisted of both 2007 and 2006 boys.

I don't blame a coach for asking his players for opinions on players he should watch at a tryout. There were a lot of kids to scout. All of these kids have either played together or against one another for years. They know each other and know who has technical and tactical skills. Asking some players, who are now 17/18 and have been playing soccer for over 10 years, for their opinions on players seems like a good decision to me. These are young men who we demand perform a sport at one of the highest levels. They want to win and they want the best players available to help them win. So, a coach asking some of his better players who is good and who he should recruit, I think is making a decision.

And just to put the current B2007 teams into perspective for you, VAUnion just barely beat BRAVE 2 years ago. This was the very first game for the 2007 BRAVE team and this BRAVE team lost every game in conference that year and had a goal differential of more than -100.

This year the B2007 BRAVE team beat VAUnion. So don't act like the team VAUnion team was a top of the table club.

I know for a fact that there are about 5 Union boys that received offers, a boy from NVA, a boy from a MLSNext team, plus some boys I'm not sure where they played last year.

Will this age group consist of more BRAVE players? Yes, it will consist of a little over half, but it's not the whole current team that received offers.

Will next years FVU 2007/06B team be better? Yes, it will. And I think it will be significantly better than either the current BRAVE or VAUnion teams. Next year's team will be deep and every player will be pushing each other for playing time. The talent difference between the starters and bench players will be razor thin.

All of this is what you want in the upper age groups for academy teams.



PS. This is posted by a parent who is tired of the VAUnion whining and complaining.




Tell us, how do YOU have detailed information on the offers/make up of the team? Are you a coach or administrator? Or are you a parent or player?


I don’t have a dog in this fight, but a coach asking 17 year olds for opinions on players in a group chat is moronic. I can’t imagine a competent coach doing that, so hopefully that isn’t true.

BRAVE and Union 07s look to both have had losing records. It’s a jump to go from u17 to u19, with a decent number of left over 06s now in the mix. If 100ish players showed up for tryouts, at most half of the roster would likely be coming from BRAVE and Union 07 COMBINED. Frankly, I’d be shocked if FVU Boys isn’t the weakest boys ECNL side in NOVA.


For someone who doesn't have a dog in the fight, and therefore has a lack of information and data, you seem to feel very strongly about the coach and team then? Using terms like "moronic", and implying that the coach isn't "competent" seems like very strong feelings to me.

Plus, to make the uninformed, dare I say "moronic", statement that "FVU boys will be the weakest boys in ECNL in NOVA", really seems like you have some ax to grind. Maybe your son was rejected or maybe you are just a coach from SYC and are afraid that you'll loose some of the talented players to another club. Maybe you are from VDA and know that BRAVE beat you and they will be better next year. Or maybe you are from Loudoun, know you've lost at least one very good player and are afraid what that means for next year.

No need to lie. You posted your statement anonymously.

See you on the sideline next year!!


You must be a joy at parties.


I am. Thanks for asking.

But if I’m at a party with you and I make a disparaging statement not based on facts or reality about your wife, family or friends, I would expect you to call me out on my bullshxx. Even if I do start my statement with either, “I don’t have a dog in this fight” or “With all due respect”.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2024 00:31     Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Too Many speculations... they need to have a town hall. VDA had it, ASA had it and I'm sure others did as well...
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2024 21:48     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The B2007 selection was a joke. Mostly Braves players received offers—those same Braves players who were initially not offered spots on VAUnion.
The most absurd part? The Braves coach maintained an ongoing group chat with his players, asking them whom he should recruit for his new team.
I never want to hear that they are making decisions based on "the best interest of the players", they don't care about them.


I'm sorry your son didn't receive an offer, but that isn't surprising when you consider there were probably about 100 kids with ECNL-N and MLSNext experience at tryouts. This was the hardest age group since it consisted of both 2007 and 2006 boys.

I don't blame a coach for asking his players for opinions on players he should watch at a tryout. There were a lot of kids to scout. All of these kids have either played together or against one another for years. They know each other and know who has technical and tactical skills. Asking some players, who are now 17/18 and have been playing soccer for over 10 years, for their opinions on players seems like a good decision to me. These are young men who we demand perform a sport at one of the highest levels. They want to win and they want the best players available to help them win. So, a coach asking some of his better players who is good and who he should recruit, I think is making a decision.

And just to put the current B2007 teams into perspective for you, VAUnion just barely beat BRAVE 2 years ago. This was the very first game for the 2007 BRAVE team and this BRAVE team lost every game in conference that year and had a goal differential of more than -100.

This year the B2007 BRAVE team beat VAUnion. So don't act like the team VAUnion team was a top of the table club.

I know for a fact that there are about 5 Union boys that received offers, a boy from NVA, a boy from a MLSNext team, plus some boys I'm not sure where they played last year.

Will this age group consist of more BRAVE players? Yes, it will consist of a little over half, but it's not the whole current team that received offers.

Will next years FVU 2007/06B team be better? Yes, it will. And I think it will be significantly better than either the current BRAVE or VAUnion teams. Next year's team will be deep and every player will be pushing each other for playing time. The talent difference between the starters and bench players will be razor thin.

All of this is what you want in the upper age groups for academy teams.



PS. This is posted by a parent who is tired of the VAUnion whining and complaining.




Tell us, how do YOU have detailed information on the offers/make up of the team? Are you a coach or administrator? Or are you a parent or player?


I don’t have a dog in this fight, but a coach asking 17 year olds for opinions on players in a group chat is moronic. I can’t imagine a competent coach doing that, so hopefully that isn’t true.

BRAVE and Union 07s look to both have had losing records. It’s a jump to go from u17 to u19, with a decent number of left over 06s now in the mix. If 100ish players showed up for tryouts, at most half of the roster would likely be coming from BRAVE and Union 07 COMBINED. Frankly, I’d be shocked if FVU Boys isn’t the weakest boys ECNL side in NOVA.


For someone who doesn't have a dog in the fight, and therefore has a lack of information and data, you seem to feel very strongly about the coach and team then? Using terms like "moronic", and implying that the coach isn't "competent" seems like very strong feelings to me.

Plus, to make the uninformed, dare I say "moronic", statement that "FVU boys will be the weakest boys in ECNL in NOVA", really seems like you have some ax to grind. Maybe your son was rejected or maybe you are just a coach from SYC and are afraid that you'll loose some of the talented players to another club. Maybe you are from VDA and know that BRAVE beat you and they will be better next year. Or maybe you are from Loudoun, know you've lost at least one very good player and are afraid what that means for next year.

No need to lie. You posted your statement anonymously.

See you on the sideline next year!!


You must be a joy at parties.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2024 19:00     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The B2007 selection was a joke. Mostly Braves players received offers—those same Braves players who were initially not offered spots on VAUnion.
The most absurd part? The Braves coach maintained an ongoing group chat with his players, asking them whom he should recruit for his new team.
I never want to hear that they are making decisions based on "the best interest of the players", they don't care about them.


I'm sorry your son didn't receive an offer, but that isn't surprising when you consider there were probably about 100 kids with ECNL-N and MLSNext experience at tryouts. This was the hardest age group since it consisted of both 2007 and 2006 boys.

I don't blame a coach for asking his players for opinions on players he should watch at a tryout. There were a lot of kids to scout. All of these kids have either played together or against one another for years. They know each other and know who has technical and tactical skills. Asking some players, who are now 17/18 and have been playing soccer for over 10 years, for their opinions on players seems like a good decision to me. These are young men who we demand perform a sport at one of the highest levels. They want to win and they want the best players available to help them win. So, a coach asking some of his better players who is good and who he should recruit, I think is making a decision.

And just to put the current B2007 teams into perspective for you, VAUnion just barely beat BRAVE 2 years ago. This was the very first game for the 2007 BRAVE team and this BRAVE team lost every game in conference that year and had a goal differential of more than -100.

This year the B2007 BRAVE team beat VAUnion. So don't act like the team VAUnion team was a top of the table club.

I know for a fact that there are about 5 Union boys that received offers, a boy from NVA, a boy from a MLSNext team, plus some boys I'm not sure where they played last year.

Will this age group consist of more BRAVE players? Yes, it will consist of a little over half, but it's not the whole current team that received offers.

Will next years FVU 2007/06B team be better? Yes, it will. And I think it will be significantly better than either the current BRAVE or VAUnion teams. Next year's team will be deep and every player will be pushing each other for playing time. The talent difference between the starters and bench players will be razor thin.

All of this is what you want in the upper age groups for academy teams.



PS. This is posted by a parent who is tired of the VAUnion whining and complaining.




Tell us, how do YOU have detailed information on the offers/make up of the team? Are you a coach or administrator? Or are you a parent or player?


I don’t have a dog in this fight, but a coach asking 17 year olds for opinions on players in a group chat is moronic. I can’t imagine a competent coach doing that, so hopefully that isn’t true.

BRAVE and Union 07s look to both have had losing records. It’s a jump to go from u17 to u19, with a decent number of left over 06s now in the mix. If 100ish players showed up for tryouts, at most half of the roster would likely be coming from BRAVE and Union 07 COMBINED. Frankly, I’d be shocked if FVU Boys isn’t the weakest boys ECNL side in NOVA.


For someone who doesn't have a dog in the fight, and therefore has a lack of information and data, you seem to feel very strongly about the coach and team then? Using terms like "moronic", and implying that the coach isn't "competent" seems like very strong feelings to me.

Plus, to make the uninformed, dare I say "moronic", statement that "FVU boys will be the weakest boys in ECNL in NOVA", really seems like you have some ax to grind. Maybe your son was rejected or maybe you are just a coach from SYC and are afraid that you'll loose some of the talented players to another club. Maybe you are from VDA and know that BRAVE beat you and they will be better next year. Or maybe you are from Loudoun, know you've lost at least one very good player and are afraid what that means for next year.

No need to lie. You posted your statement anonymously.

See you on the sideline next year!!


Right, no need to lie and I’m not. You won’t see me on the sideline. My son is already playing in college, but I am concerned that this partnership will blow up a good girls program for my daughter. Hopefully NM can step in salvage the boys program in a year or two, because it will likely be necessary.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2024 17:06     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

25 on the Roster? That's FvU insane. Now my DD will get very few minutes always having to split time with a weaker player.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2024 16:58     Subject: Re:ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:08 G is already at 25


This cannot be true. MV always has small rosters.


When he was a small club coach with VYS or even Brave is tiny compared to McLean this new Union; he had small roster becuase they were small clubs. The roster is 25, live with it, or find another club, this is the FVU way.


Thanks coach!
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2024 16:48     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The B2007 selection was a joke. Mostly Braves players received offers—those same Braves players who were initially not offered spots on VAUnion.
The most absurd part? The Braves coach maintained an ongoing group chat with his players, asking them whom he should recruit for his new team.
I never want to hear that they are making decisions based on "the best interest of the players", they don't care about them.


I'm sorry your son didn't receive an offer, but that isn't surprising when you consider there were probably about 100 kids with ECNL-N and MLSNext experience at tryouts. This was the hardest age group since it consisted of both 2007 and 2006 boys.

I don't blame a coach for asking his players for opinions on players he should watch at a tryout. There were a lot of kids to scout. All of these kids have either played together or against one another for years. They know each other and know who has technical and tactical skills. Asking some players, who are now 17/18 and have been playing soccer for over 10 years, for their opinions on players seems like a good decision to me. These are young men who we demand perform a sport at one of the highest levels. They want to win and they want the best players available to help them win. So, a coach asking some of his better players who is good and who he should recruit, I think is making a decision.

And just to put the current B2007 teams into perspective for you, VAUnion just barely beat BRAVE 2 years ago. This was the very first game for the 2007 BRAVE team and this BRAVE team lost every game in conference that year and had a goal differential of more than -100.

This year the B2007 BRAVE team beat VAUnion. So don't act like the team VAUnion team was a top of the table club.

I know for a fact that there are about 5 Union boys that received offers, a boy from NVA, a boy from a MLSNext team, plus some boys I'm not sure where they played last year.

Will this age group consist of more BRAVE players? Yes, it will consist of a little over half, but it's not the whole current team that received offers.

Will next years FVU 2007/06B team be better? Yes, it will. And I think it will be significantly better than either the current BRAVE or VAUnion teams. Next year's team will be deep and every player will be pushing each other for playing time. The talent difference between the starters and bench players will be razor thin.

All of this is what you want in the upper age groups for academy teams.



PS. This is posted by a parent who is tired of the VAUnion whining and complaining.




Tell us, how do YOU have detailed information on the offers/make up of the team? Are you a coach or administrator? Or are you a parent or player?


I don’t have a dog in this fight, but a coach asking 17 year olds for opinions on players in a group chat is moronic. I can’t imagine a competent coach doing that, so hopefully that isn’t true.

BRAVE and Union 07s look to both have had losing records. It’s a jump to go from u17 to u19, with a decent number of left over 06s now in the mix. If 100ish players showed up for tryouts, at most half of the roster would likely be coming from BRAVE and Union 07 COMBINED. Frankly, I’d be shocked if FVU Boys isn’t the weakest boys ECNL side in NOVA.


For someone who doesn't have a dog in the fight, and therefore has a lack of information and data, you seem to feel very strongly about the coach and team then? Using terms like "moronic", and implying that the coach isn't "competent" seems like very strong feelings to me.

Plus, to make the uninformed, dare I say "moronic", statement that "FVU boys will be the weakest boys in ECNL in NOVA", really seems like you have some ax to grind. Maybe your son was rejected or maybe you are just a coach from SYC and are afraid that you'll loose some of the talented players to another club. Maybe you are from VDA and know that BRAVE beat you and they will be better next year. Or maybe you are from Loudoun, know you've lost at least one very good player and are afraid what that means for next year.

No need to lie. You posted your statement anonymously.

See you on the sideline next year!!
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2024 16:34     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The B2007 selection was a joke. Mostly Braves players received offers—those same Braves players who were initially not offered spots on VAUnion.
The most absurd part? The Braves coach maintained an ongoing group chat with his players, asking them whom he should recruit for his new team.
I never want to hear that they are making decisions based on "the best interest of the players", they don't care about them.


I'm sorry your son didn't receive an offer, but that isn't surprising when you consider there were probably about 100 kids with ECNL-N and MLSNext experience at tryouts. This was the hardest age group since it consisted of both 2007 and 2006 boys.

I don't blame a coach for asking his players for opinions on players he should watch at a tryout. There were a lot of kids to scout. All of these kids have either played together or against one another for years. They know each other and know who has technical and tactical skills. Asking some players, who are now 17/18 and have been playing soccer for over 10 years, for their opinions on players seems like a good decision to me. These are young men who we demand perform a sport at one of the highest levels. They want to win and they want the best players available to help them win. So, a coach asking some of his better players who is good and who he should recruit, I think is making a decision.

And just to put the current B2007 teams into perspective for you, VAUnion just barely beat BRAVE 2 years ago. This was the very first game for the 2007 BRAVE team and this BRAVE team lost every game in conference that year and had a goal differential of more than -100.

This year the B2007 BRAVE team beat VAUnion. So don't act like the team VAUnion team was a top of the table club.

I know for a fact that there are about 5 Union boys that received offers, a boy from NVA, a boy from a MLSNext team, plus some boys I'm not sure where they played last year.

Will this age group consist of more BRAVE players? Yes, it will consist of a little over half, but it's not the whole current team that received offers.

Will next years FVU 2007/06B team be better? Yes, it will. And I think it will be significantly better than either the current BRAVE or VAUnion teams. Next year's team will be deep and every player will be pushing each other for playing time. The talent difference between the starters and bench players will be razor thin.

All of this is what you want in the upper age groups for academy teams.



PS. This is posted by a parent who is tired of the VAUnion whining and complaining.




Tell us, how do YOU have detailed information on the offers/make up of the team? Are you a coach or administrator? Or are you a parent or player?


A parent. I was at tryouts and saw a lot of high quality players. I would say 90-95% of the kids there were good players. There were some good BRAVE players that didn't make the team for next year, including some of the current BRAVE starters.

Plus the players all talk to each other and I just had to ask my son who got offers. They have friends (on VAUnion, SYC, Alex, Arlington, NVA, etc). So, the information of who got offers and who didn't was a hot topic for the players for several weeks.